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Paranormal Zombiiie Fushigi na Butterfly ryuu_chan Galad Damodred Personally, I think a benevolent dictatorship would be best. People are idiots, so get someone in power who is least idiotic of the bunch and make sure s/he takes care of everyone. I believe we have a communist in our midst... BURN THE WITCH!!! lol Well, the US WAS supposed to be a republic. We just at some point decided that a 'democracy' was the better route and now look at us. The popular vote means nothing, the rich are still in power and the poor are getting poorer. And then we're trying to push OUR failing government on other countries. stare Anyone know how to apply for Canadian citizenship? If it's socialism you're looking for, just wait until January.Agree'd. Sadly when they rallied up all the youth to vote Obama, they forgot to teach them about socialism. What's wrong with socialism? It's a positive ideal. And Obama's not really a socialist. He's too American, and Americans have an innate fear of socialism, communism and all those other Red political ideologies. xd
If there was a socialist Australian party, I'd vote for them.
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:33 pm
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Fushigi na Butterfly Paranormal Zombiiie Isn't socialism where the government owns everything? We don't own a thing the government just lets us have it? I don't know about you, but socialism is just one step away from communism, and although it is a great Ideal, we are human and it wont work. There is a very fine line between socialism and communism, so yeah. Neither would work, especially not in our country, because America is outgrowing it's baby clothes and we're about ready to implode. I will cheer the day that happens (don't get me wrong, I love my country, I love being an American, but I hate what it's turned into confused )
It is actually a big discussion in history. A government system is like its own life form, it lives great for a while, then it dies. The idealism around every form of government is great, but once we start to lose that, it goes downhill from there.
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:15 pm
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Galad Damodred Paranormal Zombiiie Isn't socialism where the government owns everything? We don't own a thing the government just lets us have it? I don't know about you, but socialism is just one step away from communism, and although it is a great Ideal, we are human and it wont work. The government owns everything, yes. The government uses the everything for the good of the people. Everyone is equal. And then when it's time, the government is dissolved, and no one owns anything. That's communism.
No. In communism the government does not own anything.
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zz1000zz Galad Damodred Paranormal Zombiiie Isn't socialism where the government owns everything? We don't own a thing the government just lets us have it? I don't know about you, but socialism is just one step away from communism, and although it is a great Ideal, we are human and it wont work. The government owns everything, yes. The government uses the everything for the good of the people. Everyone is equal. And then when it's time, the government is dissolved, and no one owns anything. That's communism. No. In communism the government does not own anything.
No, you're right. In communism, the politicians control what the factories can make and how much; what can be said in the press or not; what can be performed or not in theatres and on screens.
Communism is the control of a country by the politicians. Wages, prices, everything.
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:39 pm
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zach_wheat zz1000zz Galad Damodred Paranormal Zombiiie Isn't socialism where the government owns everything? We don't own a thing the government just lets us have it? I don't know about you, but socialism is just one step away from communism, and although it is a great Ideal, we are human and it wont work. The government owns everything, yes. The government uses the everything for the good of the people. Everyone is equal. And then when it's time, the government is dissolved, and no one owns anything. That's communism. No. In communism the government does not own anything. No, you're right. In communism, the politicians control what the factories can make and how much; what can be said in the press or not; what can be performed or not in theatres and on screens. Communism is the control of a country by the politicians. Wages, prices, everything. Y'all need to get your political ideologies straight. In a communist state, no one owns anything and there is no government. Everyone works for the benefit of the community. There's never been a truly communist state before, despite Americans and their Red hysteria. Read Thomas More's Utopia, you'll see what I'm talking about.
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Galad Damodred zach_wheat zz1000zz Galad Damodred Paranormal Zombiiie Isn't socialism where the government owns everything? We don't own a thing the government just lets us have it? I don't know about you, but socialism is just one step away from communism, and although it is a great Ideal, we are human and it wont work. The government owns everything, yes. The government uses the everything for the good of the people. Everyone is equal. And then when it's time, the government is dissolved, and no one owns anything. That's communism. No. In communism the government does not own anything. No, you're right. In communism, the politicians control what the factories can make and how much; what can be said in the press or not; what can be performed or not in theatres and on screens. Communism is the control of a country by the politicians. Wages, prices, everything. Y'all need to get your political ideologies straight. In a communist state, no one owns anything and there is no government. Everyone works for the benefit of the community. There's never been a truly communist state before, despite Americans and their Red hysteria. Read Thomas More's Utopia, you'll see what I'm talking about.
I'm going by countries that have been avowed Communists, not by any 'theoretical' meaning.
There has never been, nor will be, a truly functional form of Communism, so why talk about theory and not actual history?
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:44 pm
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zach_wheat Galad Damodred zach_wheat zz1000zz Galad Damodred Paranormal Zombiiie Isn't socialism where the government owns everything? We don't own a thing the government just lets us have it? I don't know about you, but socialism is just one step away from communism, and although it is a great Ideal, we are human and it wont work. The government owns everything, yes. The government uses the everything for the good of the people. Everyone is equal. And then when it's time, the government is dissolved, and no one owns anything. That's communism. No. In communism the government does not own anything. No, you're right. In communism, the politicians control what the factories can make and how much; what can be said in the press or not; what can be performed or not in theatres and on screens. Communism is the control of a country by the politicians. Wages, prices, everything. Y'all need to get your political ideologies straight. In a communist state, no one owns anything and there is no government. Everyone works for the benefit of the community. There's never been a truly communist state before, despite Americans and their Red hysteria. Read Thomas More's Utopia, you'll see what I'm talking about. I'm going by countries that have been avowed Communists, not by any 'theoretical' meaning. There has never been, nor will be, a truly functional form of Communism, so why talk about theory and not actual history? Because history is often recorded the way propaganda would like it to appear. For example, I'd like you to consider the possibility that, while historical record that a strategic retreat took place, it may in all possibility have been a complete rout (one that springs to mind is the evacuation of civilians and military from Vietnam).
The 'communism' to which you refer is not actual communism as defined by the ideology but a vehicle used by opressive regimes to steal power from the people.
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Galad Damodred ryuu_chan Priestley The 'communism' to which you refer is not actual communism as defined by the ideology but a vehicle used by opressive regimes to steal power from the people. And here I thought that was democracy... stare stare Having fun there, Diogenes? Oh, snap. I see what you did there.
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Priestley Galad Damodred ryuu_chan Priestley The 'communism' to which you refer is not actual communism as defined by the ideology but a vehicle used by opressive regimes to steal power from the people. And here I thought that was democracy... stare stare Having fun there, Diogenes? Oh, snap. I see what you did there. *innocently* What did I do?
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Priestley zach_wheat Galad Damodred zach_wheat zz1000zz No. In communism the government does not own anything. No, you're right. In communism, the politicians control what the factories can make and how much; what can be said in the press or not; what can be performed or not in theatres and on screens. Communism is the control of a country by the politicians. Wages, prices, everything. Y'all need to get your political ideologies straight. In a communist state, no one owns anything and there is no government. Everyone works for the benefit of the community. There's never been a truly communist state before, despite Americans and their Red hysteria. Read Thomas More's Utopia, you'll see what I'm talking about. I'm going by countries that have been avowed Communists, not by any 'theoretical' meaning. There has never been, nor will be, a truly functional form of Communism, so why talk about theory and not actual history? Because history is often recorded the way propaganda would like it to appear. For example, I'd like you to consider the possibility that, while historical record that a strategic retreat took place, it may in all possibility have been a complete rout (one that springs to mind is the evacuation of civilians and military from Vietnam).
The 'communism' to which you refer is not actual communism as defined by the ideology but a vehicle used by opressive regimes to steal power from the people.
It is good to see I do not have to respond to every post.
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