Halloween!

[Wrath of Ezekiel]

Morgan, I must ask you one thing, before we completely derail this topic.

I'm in university, first year, and we're a bunch of 18 year olds. One of our floormates has NEVER been trick or treating and has never celebrated Halloween. Is it wrong for someone who never had that experience to experience it just once?

I, personally love Halloween. As a cosplayer (anime/video game/etc fan who like to create costumes for fun), it's the one week (yes, week, due to parties and events >.>) where I can dress up in elaborate costumes.

*Is making a decently difficult one right now*  

[TeaDidikai]

Morgandria

When does the 18 year old who goes out on Hallowe'en decide enough is enough?

When they opt to be the ones who stay at home and extend hospitality rather than merely receiving it.

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I have problems with them going around neighbourhoods taking candy they can go and buy for themselves - candy they're effectively taking from children.

We could just buy more candy. heart

Or heck- have kid and adult treats. For half the price of a bag of candy we could wrap some tea lights with pretty ribbons and nice fabric.

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No-one answers a door wanting to see a gangling teenage weed in a costume.

That's a bit of a generalization there. I don't care what age the person is.

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Greed is greed, whether it's big, or small. It all starts somewhere.

Yes- but is a teen begging a little candy the "height" of greed?

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Being an adult sucks, but that's life.

For me, being an adult sucks as much as being a kid. How I choose to let that effect me is on me though. wink

I accept that my idea of adulthood might not be for everyone (I have this great idea- I want to make those playground Jungle Gym toys for adults- bring the scale up to proper adult proportions and install them at corporate complexes so that physical fitness isn't about running on a treadmill, but about climbing a fort, swinging, sliding and playing!) but that doesn't mean it isn't adult- it just means it's fanciful. The idea that being an adult means I have to kill my fancy and dreams is terrifying and I haven't seen any reason why it is necessary.

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We don't stay children forever. I for one do not want to live in a world run, and populated by, overgrown children.

Which makes me wonder- what makes a child a child and an adult an adult.

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Perhaps I'm bitter. I had little childhood, and it ended well before my teens. Ah well.

I'm kinda in the same boat. My personal solution was to embrace fancy, play and childlike joy without sacrificing the responsibility and thoughtfulness that comes with being an adult.  

[Neko_Bast]

I took over the candy giving from my mom when I was 18...I think... I like handing out the candy and seeing what people are dressed up as, regardless of there age. Allthough if the teen isn't in a costume they don't get any candy. I'm dressing up as a stariotipical movie gypsy (sorry Tea, I know how you feel about that word), and I get to wear it to work. ^-^ And I get to see my 2 month old niess latter that night. biggrin  

[ShadowSharrow]

TeaDidikai

Morgandria

When does the 18 year old who goes out on Hallowe'en decide enough is enough?

When they opt to be the ones who stay at home and extend hospitality rather than merely receiving it.

Of they could offer to chaperone children from families they know from door to door in their neighbourhood.

TeaDidikai

Morgandria

Perhaps I'm bitter. I had little childhood, and it ended well before my teens. Ah well.

I'm kinda in the same boat. My personal solution was to embrace fancy, play and childlike joy without sacrificing the responsibility and thoughtfulness that comes with being an adult.

I would be the same having grown up the eldest of 5 with only 8 years between myself and the youngest, I certainly feel I grew up way to fast;
but I have found that personally having kids meant that I get to go back and play and be silly with them as much as I want, well as much as they will allow before they think hanging out with their Mammy ain't cool.

We are currently stock piling cardboard boxes atm as they are starwars fans and one wants to be a stromtrooper and the other R2D2, so their coustumes will be home constructed.

This year I am going to have another bash at making toffee apples.
I still like to make sure that there is some fruit handed out to each kid that calls and usually make up bags to be handed out at the door. A clear sandwhich bag which other parents can then easily see what it is it ( most of the parents here abouts have taken to doing the same) and it tends to have at least 1 piece of fruits, some nuts, a lolipop and a candy bar.

Last year we gave away about 40 bags and all to children from around the housing estate.  

[TheDisreputableDog]

Neko_Bast

(sorry Tea, I know how you feel about that word), and I get to wear it to work. ^-^

And at work, when your coworkers ask what your costume is, will you be replying "I'm a G~" because Tea isn't around to set you straight? "Tea doesn't like the word" isn't really the point of not using it, it's a side effect of a larger issue. Which you are contributing to by continuing to use it.  

[maenad nuri]

TheDisreputableDog

Neko_Bast

(sorry Tea, I know how you feel about that word), and I get to wear it to work. ^-^

And at work, when your coworkers ask what your costume is, will you be replying "I'm a G~" because Tea isn't around to set you straight? "Tea doesn't like the word" isn't really the point of not using it, it's a side effect of a larger issue. Which you are contributing to by continuing to use it.

I kind of like the idea of saying you are a "historically inaccurate Rennie" myself.  

[Recursive Paradox]

Neko_Bast

I'm dressing up as a stariotipical movie g~ (sorry Tea, I know how you feel about that word), and I get to wear it to work.

while(true){
----HEAD(DESK);
}  

[patch99329]

Ack, we're lucky to get 2 trick or treaters here.
Those are mostly kids we know form the area anyway.

Halloween is taken advantage of by the shops, but nobody actually seems to celebrate it.  

[TeaDidikai]

Neko_Bast

I'm dressing up as a stariotipical movie gypsy (sorry Tea, I know how you feel about that word), and I get to wear it to work. ^-^ And I get to see my 2 month old niess latter that night. biggrin

Thank you for raping and belittling my culture- appealing to the finest elements of racism and ignoring the suffering that we have experienced historically that persists to this day because people like you make it very hard to take people like me seriously.

I've got a great idea. This Halloween maybe I should dress up like I was a drowned young Italian Roma citizen with black fingerprint ink on my finger tips.

Edit: A more political idea would be to dress up as a walking African American Stereotype- black face, props of watermelon, and a bucket of chicken (Hey- maybe that Republican Lady's Obama-Food Stamps sticking out of my pocket!) and I'll walk around and pass out a flyer that says if you find my costume offensive- are you going to correct those who are dressing up as other racial stereotypes, like G~ or the Spenser's Bombing Arab?  

[Ashaelia Caeruisce]

Every year my Grove puts on a small haunted house for the neighborhood kids. Still not sure what to be for that. Probably some non-descript outdweller/spirit of sorts.

And our big private party has the theme of a haunted casino / haunted montecarlo this year. I think I'll end up being some obscure 1930's cigarette girl.

As for feast I'm trying out a new potato-pumpkin recipie that you serve in a hallowed out pumpkin. Have tried it yet. I should probably give it a test run before the actual feast, lol. We do sort of a potluck style dinner where everyone brings a dish to share.  

[saint dreya]

i haven't dressed for halloween for a couple of years...miss it, but half the time, i've got other stuff that has me being a "responsible adult" ( stressed blech!)

i'll probably get together with a friend for my first dumb supper...i just hope that the others being invited can actually stay silent for the whole bleepin' thing.  

[CuAnnan]

LadyBanhammer

Neko_Bast

I'm dressing up as a stariotipical movie g~ (sorry Tea, I know how you feel about that word), and I get to wear it to work.

while(true){
----HEAD(DESK);
}

I think that code is better as

while(nekoBast.hasAllOfTheCulturalSensitivityOf(KKK.getAverageMember()))
{
head(desk)
}

Though the following will also result in an infinite loop

while(nekoBast.displays(utterIngorance))
{
head(desk)
}

There are other things that produce another infinite loop, but they're the most relevant.  

[Recursive Paradox]

CuAnnan

LadyBanhammer

Neko_Bast

I'm dressing up as a stariotipical movie g~ (sorry Tea, I know how you feel about that word), and I get to wear it to work.

while(true){
----HEAD(DESK);
}

I think that code is better as

while(nekoBast.hasAllOfTheCulturalSensitivityOf(KKK.getAverageMember()))
{
head(desk)
}

Though the following will also result in an infinite loop

while(nekoBast.displays(utterIngorance))
{
head(desk)
}

There are other things that produce another infinite loop, but they're the most relevant.

I like the first one the best because there's at least a chance in hell of there being a base case in a few decades or so.  

[Ashaelia Caeruisce]

Neko_Bast

I'm dressing up as a stereotipical movie gypsy (sorry Tea, I know how you feel about that word), and I get to wear it to work.

Bad form . . .It's not just a matter of the word itself being upsetting to someone. Thank you so very much for continuing the racist practice of belittlement and humiliation towards a culture who's already had more than its unfare share of ethnic hardships and misunderstandings all because people like you think it's "cute". If you know it's upsetting, then why do it? Saying "Sorry" and then doing it anyway when you know it's wrong doesn't make it acceptable.

This all stems from your inability to grasp the reality of the situation and for lazily allowing a hollywood glorification of an ethnic racial slur to allow you to think it's suddenly o.k. to use.

The word "Gypsy" is on the same racist level as using "******", "Spick","Wet-back", & "Whitey" . . . I hope that helps it sink into your brain a little more on just how much of an underlying problem using the G~ word really is. And it's not to be taken likely because a few movies use it with disreguard for the culture being represented.

I'm sorry, but this now labels you as a racist.

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Sorry if this looks like a double post, My comp messed up and it's not letting me delete it nor edit it. =/