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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:28 pm
Maddy
I'm sorry, Imzadi, but I can't be more specific without searching online for the answer.

All I can say is:
There was a TNG episode where they found that all humanoid species share a common "alien" origin. This "alien" left traces of their DNA, or something like that, throughout the galaxy. And from there all the different humanoid species were developed.

It was a "scientific" way to explain the humanoid look of almost all ST races.


For anything more specific, I'd need Google. sweatdrop


YES!

This episode was called "the Chase."
Federation, Klingon, Romulan and Cardassian ships flew around, trying
to decode the entire DNA message encoded, and it turned out to be a
message from a humanoid species that said they directed DNA around the
galaxy so there'd be humanoids later, just as they themselves were
humanoids.
After all that, the Klingon had the natural response.
"Is that all?
If she wasn't dead, I'd kill her myself!"



I also wonder how many people realized that Star Trek managed to
squeeze in a scientific approach to Intelligent Design.
smile  
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:06 pm
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I also wonder how many people realized that Star Trek managed to
squeeze in a scientific approach to Intelligent Design.
smile


I haven't thought of it that way, but now that you mentioned it...  

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:03 pm
NEW question!

This is a tough one.

In the book "1984". George Orwell looked to the future, and speculated
a society where the government/the state owned everything, and
controlled everything, all the way down to what the citizens thought.

One of the most significant thoughts from the book came the idea that
someone could be made to believe that 2 + 2 = 5 if they were told to
believe it.

Which Star Trek episode showed someone attempting to do that very thing?  
PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:21 am
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NEW question!

This is a tough one.

In the book "1984". George Orwell looked to the future, and speculated
a society where the government/the state owned everything, and
controlled everything, all the way down to what the citizens thought.

One of the most significant thoughts from the book came the idea that
someone could be made to believe that 2 + 2 = 5 if they were told to
believe it.

Which Star Trek episode showed someone attempting to do that very thing?


Would that be the TNG two-part epis, "Chain of Command"? Gul...Macet, I believe, and Jean-Luc with the 4 light, 5 light thing?

That's the first thing that popped in my mind, anyway.  

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:08 pm
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Steel Sterling
NEW question!

This is a tough one.

In the book "1984". George Orwell looked to the future, and speculated
a society where the government/the state owned everything, and
controlled everything, all the way down to what the citizens thought.

One of the most significant thoughts from the book came the idea that
someone could be made to believe that 2 + 2 = 5 if they were told to
believe it.

Which Star Trek episode showed someone attempting to do that very thing?



Would that be the TNG two-part epis, "Chain of Command"? Gul...Macet, I believe, and Jean-Luc with the 4 light, 5 light thing?

That's the first thing that popped in my mind, anyway.


That would be CORRECT.
There were 2 lights above Gul Macet on the left,
and 2 lights above Gul Macet on the right,
and Gul Macet tried to break Picard and get him to say they totalled 5.
Yes, the writers were thinking of 1984 when they wrote the script for the
episode.  
PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:42 am
Ok, this shouldn't be TOO hard.
IIRC, this question is "fair" by the definition of this thread.


The United Federation of Planets has had 5 ships named "Enterprise."
Give their registry numbers, and the class of ships they were.

Bragging rights if you can name 5 different captains-
5 Federation officers officially made captains of those ships,
WITHOUT NAMING ANY OF THEM TWICE.
And match each one to an Enterprise.
(Without naming any Enterprise twice.)

(I can name 8 across the 5 ships, so I know this is possible.)  

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:14 pm
Steel Sterling
Ok, this shouldn't be TOO hard.
IIRC, this question is "fair" by the definition of this thread.


The United Federation of Planets has had 5 ships named "Enterprise."
Give their registry numbers, and the class of ships they were.

Bragging rights if you can name 5 different captains-
5 Federation officers officially made captains of those ships,
WITHOUT NAMING ANY OF THEM TWICE.
And match each one to an Enterprise.
(Without naming any Enterprise twice.)

(I can name 8 across the 5 ships, so I know this is possible.)


NCC-1701 - Constitution - Kirk
NCC-1701-A - Constitution (refit) - drawing a blank
NCC-1701-B - Excelsior - Harriman
NCC-1701-C - Ambassador - Garrett
NCC-1701-D - Galaxy - Picard

I needed to get confirmation on the A's class, but other than that, I remembered them all, I think.  
PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:26 am
Looks like I can't count.
You're correct.
I MEANT to say there were SIX, of course.
And to name 6 different Captains.
(I can name 8 across the 6.)  

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:22 pm
YoukaiLuvr already named the classes of 5 so I won't repeat them.
For the 6 ships and captains, I'm short one captain, but...

NCC 1701 : Pike
NCC 1701 A : Kirk
NCC 1701 B : Harriman
NCC 1701 C : Garrett
NCC 1701 D :
NCC 1701 E : Picard (Sovereign class)  
PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:33 pm
Wait! I think I've got it.

Wasn't there a captain replacing Picard in one episode... *thinks hard* Jerico... Jelico... something like that?  

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:03 pm
Maddy
YoukaiLuvr already named the classes of 5 so I won't repeat them.
For the 6 ships and captains, I'm short one captain, but...

NCC 1701 : Pike
NCC 1701 A : Kirk
NCC 1701 B : Harriman
NCC 1701 C : Garrett
NCC 1701 D :
NCC 1701 E : Picard (Sovereign class)

Maddy
Wait! I think I've got it.

Wasn't there a captain replacing Picard in one episode... *thinks hard* Jerico... Jelico... something like that?


And adding Jelico (from Chain of Command Parts 1 & 2)
fills the Enterprise-D space,
making 6 different Captains across 6 different Enteprises.
(Which is the question I MEANT to ask,
meaning we had 2 correct posters.)  
PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:12 pm
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Maddy
YoukaiLuvr already named the classes of 5 so I won't repeat them.
For the 6 ships and captains, I'm short one captain, but...

NCC 1701 : Pike
NCC 1701 A : Kirk
NCC 1701 B : Harriman
NCC 1701 C : Garrett
NCC 1701 D :
NCC 1701 E : Picard (Sovereign class)

Maddy
Wait! I think I've got it.

Wasn't there a captain replacing Picard in one episode... *thinks hard* Jerico... Jelico... something like that?


And adding Jelico (from Chain of Command Parts 1 & 2)
fills the Enterprise-D space,
making 6 different Captains across 6 different Enteprises.
(Which is the question I MEANT to ask,
meaning we had 2 correct posters.)


For those wondering, the television/movie Captains for the Federation
Enterprises are, in order:

NCC 1701 razz ike (the Cage, the Menagerie I and II)
(Robert April preceeded Pike, but not in the show or movies)
then Kirk (TOS)
then Spock (Star Trek II:the Wrath of Khan),
who gave way to Kirk when the flight went from "little training cruise"
to the Regula I incident

NCC 1701 A- Kirk

NCC-1701 B-Harriman (Star Trek:Generations)
Again I ask, who put Cameron Frye on the Enterprise?

NCC 1701 C-Garret (Yesterday's Enterprise)

NCC 1701 D- Picard (starting Encounter at Farpoint),
Riker (Best of Both Worlds II)
Jellico (Chain of Command I and II)

NCC 1701 E-Picard  

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:24 pm
*giggles about Cameron Frye being on the Enterprise*



Didn't Garret die or something during the episode making Castillo the captain on their way back to their own universe?  
PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:35 pm
Maddy
*giggles about Cameron Frye being on the Enterprise*



Didn't Garret die or something during the episode making Castillo the captain on their way back to their own universe?


I thought about that.
It's a matter of interpretation.
Technically, any person in charge of a ship is its "captain."
The highest ranking officer is supposed to be in charge
(unless he's a fleet officer, in which case, a full captain may be
below him, OR he may "captain" the ship himself.)
The person in charge is addressed as "captain".
Nog realized he himself could end up as the "captain" of the
Defiant as an Ensign, but, as O'Brien pointed out,
by that time, there'd be no one left to CALL him "captain."
(That's a slight exagerration- non-coms rank below Ensigns,
which means if O'Brien (Chief Petty Officer) and Nog (Ensign)
were the last 2, and they followed protocol,
Nog would take command as "captain".
However, they probably would NOT follow protocol because all
procedures should give way to exceptional circumstances.)

I only counted those officers who had been formally placed as
Captain by Starfleet, and were referred to OFFICIALLY as the
current "Captain." Castillo's case wasn't so- he would need
to be promoted in his own timeframe, the way Riker was,
to fit my definition.  

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:47 pm
Oh. I didn't remember Riker being officially promoted so when you mentioned him I thought of Castillo's case.
You are right, though, you asked for "officially made captains".



BTW, in the episode where Nog entered Starfleet Academy, O'Brien made a comment about that. *points at Steel's mention of ranks*
He suddenly realised that by the time Nog finished the Academy he'd had to call Nog "Sir" because he'd be his superior.
O'Brien didn't like it one bit. razz  
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