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 Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:46 am
i think it goes both ways. most goths i know either liked anime and went goth, or was goth and then liked anime.
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:46 pm
MortSanglant Personally I believe it comes with the fact a lot of the so-called goths and/or emos/any person with an alternative lifestyle are in their chosen life path for the sole purpose of deviating from the norm.
Something that deviates from the norm in my part of the world is Japanese culture.
Delving into anime or manga makes them feel cultured.
Personally I find most hardcore anime fans to be highly annoying. Their shrieking fandom and obessive nature makes me want to run my nails down a chalkboard.
Not to say I'm against anime. I enjoy it when it's good.
Most anime are carbon copies of each other or have so many cliches thrown into them that they get boring quickly.
I suppose I'm just ranting.
But back to my main point, I believe a lot of it originates [key word] with a need to be different.
 I agree with you to an extent, but the cheesy cliches are what I love about anime, down to the kind of jokes that make me shake my head and grin with how bad they are. Though the extremist's ruin it, to the point, where they start calling you names and flaming you if you ask them not to spoil an episode thats been available for a few hours because you weren't up to get it the instant it was released for download. Also the know it alls, that believe because they know about obscure generic adventure anime 3 and you don't they are better then you. Personally I just mention Violence Jack, Doomed Megaopolis and Angel Cop and they normally start shrinking away in terror... and people that completely dismiss dubs as being crap, annoy me too.
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:10 pm
sasorixd99 there are a bunch of gothic animes like vampire hunter d and hellsing Hey I like Hellsing biggrin , but I woundn't call it completely gothic
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:15 pm
The_Angry_Fatalist sasorixd99 there are a bunch of gothic animes like vampire hunter d and hellsing Hey I like Hellsing biggrin , but I woundn't call it completely gothic You haven't red the manga I assume? And it counts as the OVA is following the manga.
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:43 pm
Rellik San The_Angry_Fatalist sasorixd99 there are a bunch of gothic animes like vampire hunter d and hellsing Hey I like Hellsing biggrin , but I woundn't call it completely gothic You haven't red the manga I assume? And it counts as the OVA is following the manga. ive read the manga and some parts seemed a bit gothic not all of it thought
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:49 pm
I have read the manga. and yes SOME parts are gothic, but not really all of them. The manga is actually the only format of hellsing ive seen.
Also what is OVA? sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:19 pm
The_Angry_Fatalist I have read the manga. and yes SOME parts are gothic, but not really all of them. The manga is actually the only format of hellsing ive seen. Also what is OVA? sweatdrop ova is origanil video animation
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:55 pm
The_Angry_Fatalist I have read the manga. and yes SOME parts are gothic, but not really all of them. The manga is actually the only format of hellsing ive seen. Also what is OVA? sweatdrop I'd say its more gothic then you all admit, just because it doesn't make a big deal about it, doesn't mean it isn't, for example, look at the scene of Dracule bowing before Integra, with all the skwered bodies in the back ground. The fact is, 70% of the gothic nature of Hellsing comes in its subtext and underlying themes, as opposed to screamingly goth especially the art style, for me Kouta Hirano is up there with the likes Yuichi Kumakara, Richard Elson and Adam Warren (which is to me, the normal persons equivalent to Shirow Masamune and Stan Lee). As for OVA its a straight to Video release of a short series. Often spin off from a television series or video game.
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:53 pm
Rellik San The_Angry_Fatalist I have read the manga. and yes SOME parts are gothic, but not really all of them. The manga is actually the only format of hellsing ive seen. Also what is OVA? sweatdrop I'd say its more gothic then you all admit, just because it doesn't make a big deal about it, doesn't mean it isn't, for example, look at the scene of Dracule bowing before Integra, with all the skwered bodies in the back ground. The fact is, 70% of the gothic nature of Hellsing comes in its subtext and underlying themes, as opposed to screamingly goth especially the art style, for me Kouta Hirano is up there with the likes Yuichi Kumakara, Richard Elson and Adam Warren (which is to me, the normal persons equivalent to Shirow Masamune and Stan Lee). As for OVA its a straight to Video release of a short series. Often spin off from a television series or video game. Alrighty thanks, and is what book is that scene from, i only have the first six.
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:10 am
I think alot of people just like anime and its a way to escape reality (like video games) and dive into a more fantasy like world.
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:10 am
The_Angry_Fatalist Rellik San The_Angry_Fatalist I have read the manga. and yes SOME parts are gothic, but not really all of them. The manga is actually the only format of hellsing ive seen. Also what is OVA? sweatdrop I'd say its more gothic then you all admit, just because it doesn't make a big deal about it, doesn't mean it isn't, for example, look at the scene of Dracule bowing before Integra, with all the skwered bodies in the back ground. The fact is, 70% of the gothic nature of Hellsing comes in its subtext and underlying themes, as opposed to screamingly goth especially the art style, for me Kouta Hirano is up there with the likes Yuichi Kumakara, Richard Elson and Adam Warren (which is to me, the normal persons equivalent to Shirow Masamune and Stan Lee). As for OVA its a straight to Video release of a short series. Often spin off from a television series or video game. Alrighty thanks, and is what book is that scene from, i only have the first six. Its book 7 or 8. I think.
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:43 am
Zakuthegreat I think alot of people just like anime and its a way to escape reality (like video games) and dive into a more fantasy like world. that it is... some people use anime/ manga to escape stress...
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:47 am
Hellsing is counted as gothic because it has a vampire in it. *Shrugs*
Other than that, I'd call it much more an adventure comic.
Hikaru No Go is a sports comic, But Hikaru dresses in a way I'd identify as kind of a punkish-skater boy sometimes (deispite the fact he's not) does that mean that it's a mall goth type comic? No, it's about Go, which when you come down to it, is a board game.
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:34 pm
Rowan Birch Hellsing is counted as gothic because it has a vampire in it. *Shrugs* Other than that, I'd call it much more an adventure comic. Hikaru No Go is a sports comic, But Hikaru dresses in a way I'd identify as kind of a punkish-skater boy sometimes (deispite the fact he's not) does that mean that it's a mall goth type comic? No, it's about Go, which when you come down to it, is a board game. Hikaru no Go isn't a sports comic, its about Games, same as Yu-Gi-Oh, speaking of which anyone notice Yugi tended to dress pretty gothily?
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:23 pm
Rowan Birch Hellsing is counted as gothic because it has a vampire in it. *Shrugs* Other than that, I'd call it much more an adventure comic. It's not part of the gothic genre, even if it has gothic themes. Gothic-horror is a genre of storytelling known for heavy use of imagery, sexual metaphor, eroticism, mystery, and suspense. First started by "Castle of Otantro" by Walpole, some the genre's most famous authors include Ann Radcliffe, Matthew Gregory Lewis, Marquis de Sade (arguably), Brom Stoker, Mary Shelley, and, the most famous, Edgar Allen Poe. Though Hellsing has some limited thematic influence from the genre, it is as a whole an action series.
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