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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:18 am
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:40 am
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:58 am
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:17 pm
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zz1000zz OverlordMMM ......does anyone have any better terms than poser and mainstream......they don't really fit the context of what we're talking about right.... Sure they do. Poser: Anybody doing what i did first. Mainstream: Whatever anybody else likes; not cool. They fit perfectly! By your definition of poser wouldn't that make most people out there who are goth, punk or emo, posers by the sheer fact that they didn't create the sub-culture and they are not the first? Wouldn't that make all of us posers with a possible unique twist that naturally occurs in any typr of sub-culture or clothing style? Also you couldn't possible always be anit-mainstream, as much as we all like to think we're not sheep following a trend at some point or another we miust have followed the mainstream be it that barney doll rotting in your closet or the clothes you coveted as a child you couldn't have been a rebel or utterly unique from the time you were born or cognisant of the world around you.
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:50 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:52 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:40 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:06 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:26 pm
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As many have said before me, Hot Topic is quite convenient for those who are unable to shop online or just need the occasional eyeliner or nail polish. I have read many of the previous posts about how everyone is so annoyed about preps shopping in there, but do you know for a fact that they are preps? I know that so many of you always say that you hate being labeled, and furthermore, stereotyped simply by the way you look, but in turn you are doing exactly that.
Just because you are gothic does not mean you have to dress in any of the various styles that are currently popular to the gothic subculture, be it Victorian, etc. Many merely find other clothes more comfortable, or like a certain style more. Does that make them poseurs? No.
Anyway, I would like to say that I believe Hot Topic started out as a great idea when it opened 10 years ago, and had a good purpose. Today, though I think it was not their original intention, people shop there solely for the purpose that if they do, they will be deemed gothic. If this is what society thinks makes them gothic, the true essence and point of the whole subculture may be lost. I think that this is where misunderstandings, as well as other stereotypes, may arise about being a goth. But alas, I shall not deem it a "poseur" store, because anyone is allowed to shop there, but I will say that it may very well be, though I know you hate the term, mainstream. I mostly like the fact that I can find a lot of band t-shirts there, though I only shop there occasionally.
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:45 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:28 pm
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MerrickTheDarkOne zz1000zz OverlordMMM ......does anyone have any better terms than poser and mainstream......they don't really fit the context of what we're talking about right.... Sure they do. Poser: Anybody doing what i did first. Mainstream: Whatever anybody else likes; not cool. They fit perfectly! By your definition of poser wouldn't that make most people out there who are goth, punk or emo, posers by the sheer fact that they didn't create the sub-culture and they are not the first? Wouldn't that make all of us posers with a possible unique twist that naturally occurs in any typr of sub-culture or clothing style? Also you couldn't possible always be anit-mainstream, as much as we all like to think we're not sheep following a trend at some point or another we miust have followed the mainstream be it that barney doll rotting in your closet or the clothes you coveted as a child you couldn't have been a rebel or utterly unique from the time you were born or cognisant of the world around you.
Exactly. See, i was showing the absurdity the common use of "poser" and "mainstream" entail. However, i was doing it through sarcasm and snide humor.
And, i was utterly unique all my life. After all, you are unique. Just like everyone else.
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:16 pm
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:01 am
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:48 am
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If preps are in hot topic I don't see how anyone could label them as such because of how they are dressing, since they wouldn't be dressing like preps as Hot Topic isn't a "preppy" store, in the visual sense. Therefore the only way to judge them is by how they act so I don't quite see the logic behind that.
Also my explanation is a little confusing, so I'll make a picture of how I feel.
So as you can see here, goth is about being unique, and preppy is about following the crowd. It's both groups cut down to the very basics, summed up in a few words if you will. Now, Here we can see, Preppy McPrep sees hot topic. Thier friends all shop there, so they check it out. They come out with a cool outfit that makes them look "Totally Gothic! Hee hee!". They are doing it because it's such a popular place. Now Gothic McGoth ALSO shops there to express their individuality, but they are wearing the same thing as everyone else. Now, do they really look all that original? Or do they look the same as the preps? So if the crowd is shopping at hot topic, getting all the same outfits, and Gothic McGoth goes there and gets that outfit as well, are they really being their original gothic self? Or are they following the crowd like the other preps?
And to continue that, is a poser not someone who acts like a prep and calls themselves goth?
Not to mention the name "Hot Topic" is referring to the topic that is hot or the new fad, and fads are meant for everyone to follow.. not very gothic is it?
I'm sure this is one of many posts that will piss off many though... oh well, it needed to be said.
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:51 am
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