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 Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:14 pm
ShadowedMoonlight Rio Ri Drakon_Luther I'm glade people actually noticed that. It even goes back further then that in other culturers around the world. Homosexual relationships such as the 'shudo' have existed probably sense the time of Babylon. I know it did in Egyptian and Greek times. That sounds like a very interesting book.
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:16 pm
o-o
So like...my history teachers lied to me? gonk
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:53 pm
[ - P a n d a - ] o-o
So like...my history teachers lied to me? gonk
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:14 am
Never knew about Japanese Samurais! o_o
I knew about the Greeks, of course. xd I once found this book entitled "Greek Homosexuality" in my dad's library, and naturally, I couldn't resist flipping through it. rofl
The text was really complicated with ancient Greek words, but the pictures! eek I didn't know they painted scenes like that on their vases! They didn't show those vases in my History book! scream Only vases with mythological scenes and whatnot.
Anyways, on these vases are scenes of men doing it with each other... In groups sometimes! eek And other vases with scenes of men touching each other, which apparently, was "courting". xd
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:21 am
Courting was probably the safe word to use XD Like i said before it's amasing what our history teachers leave out of the history books and don't tell us! T Silly, old homophobic, B***HS! lol!
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:32 pm
Wow!!! That's cool! ^^ I guess we do learn something new everyday. XD
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:37 pm
Rio Ri [ - P a n d a - ] o-o
So like...my history teachers lied to me? gonk xD Ehe. My history teacher never really brought up the subject. ._.; None of them really ever did. D: They're in denial.
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:01 pm
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:08 pm
Time to freak out my History class! ^____^, but I found a book called "Way of the Samuri" in my school library, no mention of it at all!?
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:14 pm
KnightBlazer Time to freak out my History class! ^____^, but I found a book called "Way of the Samuri" in my school library, no mention of it at all!?
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:26 pm
Ah you see, my teacher did not hide Yaoi in ancient Greece from my class.
In Athens, especially, she told us that the government and military actually incuraged male relationships within the ranks. If a man had relations with whomever was fighting next to him, then he would be less likely to break ranks. Besides, back then most men were forced into the military, and had to sneak off to go find a woman. Men were just handier, so it was a natural thing to happen.
Honestly, homosexuality has never been a foreign concept, and it truly is a closed minded, and irrational way to suddenly make it appear so wrong. Just because its not about procreation doesn't mean its a sin.
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:57 pm
Homosexuality is not only rich in Japanese history. Tutso mentioned Greece above me. Young boys were thought of as ideal forms of beauty in Greek thought, which is why all Ancient Greeks would be branded as ***** in modern times! xd
There's something else that I am trying to remember... Oh, it's still not coming back to me.
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:13 pm
I want to learn more about homosexuality and bisexuality in ancient Egypt and Greece, but an annoying amount of documentaries totally avoid the subject. stare The books in the local public library are also rather lacking. If I ever get the chance I'm going to bring up homosexuality in history discussions. xd Sadly my school doesn't offer a history course.
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:56 am
I remember reading in a sex ed book about Greeks in a section about homosexuality and heterosexuality. Luckily the book seemed to have a very open-minded view about the subject. (My parent's didn't really give me The Talk, they just gave me the book and said if I had any questions I can ask XD) Anyway, apparently they used to encourage homosexual relationships between men in the military! Go figure. No "don't ask, don't tell" there, eh? Tch. But movin' right along. They'd place one partner in the relationship on one side of the battlefield and one on the other side so they would be encouraged to fight at thier best to impress thier partners. A little cruel, really, but it musta been one heck of a motivator.
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:35 am
Rio Ri Me and my friend Jesse were watching Samurai Champloo and Kenshin DVD's and to my surprise she kept yelling *cough* insults at the makers of these fine samurai animes and here's a tid bit opf why.-
Jesse: Wrong >.>
Me: What is?
Jesse: A bunch of these samurai animes...*sounds pissed*
Me: err...why?
Jesse: Not enough gay
Me: ...the hell?
Jesse: *goes into LOOONG explaination about 'shudo', the common samurai class practice were a apprentice samurai would be the older more experienced samurai's lover for a few years while under their wing*
Me:...woah
A few days after I found this ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_Japan ) read it and be amazed on how rich the history of yaoi is. *lol* but my teacher said you can't never be too trusting wikipedia.....since anyone can change it.
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