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Farnoosh

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:28 pm
Good idea Leveller.
But, truthfully, there really is no style.
I'd just say to have fun with bright colours.
And that's that.
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:37 pm
Farnoosh

But, truthfully, there really is no style.
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yes and ain't that (except for the music) one of best things about ska? ^_^  

Leveller


Farnoosh

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:54 pm
But... not really.
Cause people call me emo and punk and goth.
BUT I WEAR SKIRTS!
Emo people are afraid od skirts!
And I wear BLUE and... LIGHT PINK!
AND LIME GREEN!
>_<
So it's kind of annoying when rudies get called goth and stuff.
 
PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:25 am
Er..Why do you say emo people are afraid of skirts?

All the emo hating is kind of retarded, in my opinion.

All the ska kids that preach about unity and tolerance and then two minutes later b***h about emo kids. Hypocrites, much?  

Asthen


Farnoosh

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:06 am
Yes, but that's just how rudekids ARE.
Maybe not you, but in general, we just don't like emos.
I said that emos' are afraid of skrts is because my emo friends ((not so much anymores)) don't wear them because they're afraid that they're legs might show through.
It's a SKIRT, that's what it does.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:38 am
Leveller
well I always associated Ska with dressing sharp, clean and nice!

so this is how I dress up for ska-shows or when I go out to a club.

I don't care how any one else dress, just that if you wanna dress rude, then I think you should keep it clean.

but then again, ska is music not a fashion...you can't dress "ska" but you can dress "rude".
so, shall we move on with another question now?
Fixed it.
And if you were in my school, and dressed like that.....
I'd glomp you.
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Farnoosh


UreshiiNyoko

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:34 pm
rudies and emo kids are like cats and dogs. Sure there's the rare times they get along but we just don't mix. AT ALL.

Rudies: happy, dancey, colorful, clean, sharp, trumpets, laughing, joking, dressing up, not-getting-elbowed-in-the-head-as-much. 4laugh blaugh cool

Emo: Generally sad, dark, blahty, muddy, screamy, whiney, moshing, depressing, tight pants, can't see. crying cry talk2hand  
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:39 am
The only problem I have with emo kids is that the majority of them don't actually do anything in the scene and just jumped on the band wagon.... There's always some scene that gets stuck with the people who just go with the crowd. Before emo it was skaters, and before that it was (back when ska was still cool in 3rd wave) ska to some extent.... Look at how many bands around now used to be a ska band and now switched to something completely different...And I don't know about all of the kids in your area, but here in SoCal all the kids have ditched emo and gone into the Fashion Hardcore / Screamo scene.
Anyway, a real emo kid would know the history and all that to their scene, but if you ask any of em now they wouldn't know anything....

Besides, unless your a skinhead or a punk whos into ska, the only people that a ska kid can beat up is an emo kid. I think it was one of the guys from Big D who said something like "Thanks to the emo kids it makes all of us who play ska look like a bunch of ball-busting bad asses..." or something like that...  

DarkVice


DarkVice

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:54 pm
Okay so I finally found that article about 2-Tone fashion I mentioned earlier. as Leveller mentioned it came from the Special 2-Tone/Ska Explosion edition of Mojo magazine. The article kinda long so bear with me:

A pork pie hat in 1979 was as much a badge of allegiance to the ska revival as those "Nuclear Power - Nein Danke" badges were to no nukes agitators. But if much of the 2-Tone ethos lay in an acceptance of the new multi-racial Britain, the streetstyle was cherry picked from earlier British youth movements.
In the early '60s, this style was born in London's basement clubs where hip white society rubbed shoulders with West Indian migrants. But if the music played in these dens was imported ksa and R&B, the dress style that came with it from the islands was curiously based on reliable old Imperial brands - Kangol hats, Fred Perry shirts, Clark's shoes, stove-pipe trousers beloved of England's Edwardian dandies - as well as the more distinctive prok-pie hat, beloved of everyone from poet Dylan Thomas to '50s jazzmen such as Miles Davis. Jamaica's turbulent streets and dances produced youths of dubious charachter dubbed "rude boys" who were celebrated in ska tunes, and that added frisson of lawlessness lent the syle kudos that never went away.
The Mod movement enjoyed rude boy fashion as much as the music. Its attention to individual, minimalist style has never really gone away; tiger tails on scooter aerials apart, it avoided the sometimes embarrassing spontaneity of youth, sticking to the clipped timelessness of Chanel rather than venting its flares at every passing teen fad.
Mods wore more grown-up clothes that their leisured-up, slacks-sporting parents. But in the 1970s, the majority of kids wanted to grow their hair and sew patches on their jeans, just like mum and dad. Meanwhile, black ska fans had got into roots reggae and dreadlocked their hair while the smart utilitarian Mod look dissolved into the Skinhead hybrid - shaved heads replaced the careful coiffure; braces and Dr Marten boots (a German-designed, air-soled British workboot launched in 1960) took off. Now two-tone, "tonic" or Sta-Prest strides were the thing, but the mod staples of clean-lined suite, pork-pie hat and button-down Ben Sherman shirt persisted. Mother definitely didn't like it.
If the DIY dress sense of punk furthered the generation gap, 2-tone threw the clock back. It was Jerry Dammers, son of a radical priest, founder of The Special and 2-Tone records, who was mostly responsible for the scene's look. There was a political as well as a recycling demension to his formula.
In 1978 Dammers had seen skinheads - whose followers had become closely associatedwith the violently facist National Front organisation - attending Clash gigs. Intent on changing minds from within, he, Neville Staple and other Specials members adopted the '60s rude boy gear that skins could empathise with, to the extent that 2-Tone figurehead Walt Jabsco was traced from the outline of quintessential rudei Peter Tosh. The pun lay in the harmony of black and white, a potent message in multiracial urban Britain.
By the time The Special and Madness played at the London's Nachville Rooms in 1979 the room was ful of 2-Tone stylists. The look had settled on a "distressed" mod/skin/rude boy/punk amalgam. For the boys, this meant a simple second-hand black suit with tapered trousers (preferably three inches short), or turned-up classic Levi's. the Harrington - named afte the light sportscoat worn by Rdney Harrington from the '60s soap Peyton Place - and the US Airforce MA-1 jacket were also de rigueur. White shirts with skinny black tie were worn, as were Ben Shermans or Fred Perrys. On the feet, Dr Marten shoes or boots (often painted) were common, as were the standard-issue Czechoslovakian Army footwear known as "monkey boots", or even tasselled Frank Wright loafer shoes (an evolution of the Native American moccasin). And, of course, a pork pie hat topped the ensemble.
Femal rudies were much more straight Mod: bouffant '60s hairdos, charity shop-bought boucle twin sets with a mini skirt; patterned tights and space-age, calf-high go-go boots.
As you might expect, since much of it had already endured more than two decades by the time of 2-Tone, nearly all of the branded gear is still available from specialist shops and on the internet. Now, though, the component partsthat made up the 2-Tone look are sold under their banner of origin, be it punk, mod or skin. The likes of Underground Shoes (www.underground-shoes.co.uk) specialise in niche retro footwear vie mail order, and more contemporary examples of mod-leaning fashion can be found at Merc (www.merc-clothing.com). Camden Market in North London remains a good place to buy the gear reasonably priced if you get there early enough for the bargains. Carnaby Street is a pricier alternative. Online auction site eBay (www.ebay.co.uk) nearly always has 2-Tone T-Shirts and plenty of authentic clothing. So get bidding, and may the rudest boy or girl win.

From 7 October London's Victoria & Albert museum stages Black British Style, an exhibition charting the influence of black culture on UK street style, including 2-Tone.
For more information see www.rudewear.co.uk


That's the article in its entirety... please excue any typos etc. Finally remember, don't let style define you.... define your own style....  
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:34 pm
yeah, so the pic of me earlier in this thread kinda shows how it looks like!
so, should we move on now, with something else?  

Leveller


Farnoosh

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:52 pm
Thank you so much for that!
Long but very informative!
Thank you though!
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:43 pm
yes, how come every kid im friends with (save like 1) says they like ska but only like Big D, RBF, TMMB, and LTJ and when i show them the skatalites there like "this isnt ska this is crap" or when i show them the specials whats wrong with people?  

AnonymousJoe


Leveller

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:09 pm
that's a realy good question!  
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:37 pm
Clearly your friends are suffering from the much dreaded "If-I-havent-heard-of-it-before-it-must-not-be-good-itis"..... It's the disease that all of the cool kids have.... Don't worry though.... its not always permanent... the lucky ones will survive and learn to love the stuff no-ones heard of even more  

DarkVice


UreshiiNyoko

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:03 pm
They just have different tastes. Obviously the still like the 3 wave-y sound best. I started out the same and I'm still more of a 3 wave girl but I like what I've heard. Give them time. If they like it, that rocks; if not, then what can ya do.  
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