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 Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:38 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:09 pm
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TeaDidikai Celeblin Galadeneryn All things considered, I've been meaning to look into having a full chart done, but now I need to decide which one. I think I'd like both actually, considering that the Sun is actually figurably important to me, but it also makes sense to use the constellations themselves. How do you think Astrology works? What are the mechanics behind it? Also, I do intend to actually do the twenty some charts I have said I would do over the years. I just get lazy because I really ******** hate the math involved. But I do such a good job... alas, so torn.
I do sort of like Tycho Brahe's view on it though, in that by looking at the stars he sees what's around him. |
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:17 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:20 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:23 pm
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:54 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:28 am
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rmcdra Let's see if I can explain the mechanics. It makes more sense to me to use the sun rather than the sun and stars to derive because the idealistic heavens are fixed.
Quote: Since the universe is a reflection of this idealistic heavens and ultimately ourselves as well. To have the stars signs move seems rather contradictory to the idea of this idealistic heaven. Using the equinoxes and solstices as the guiding factor for determining signs rather the stars as they are now preserves this notion of an fixed idealistic heaven.
Don't take this the wrong way, but you are perhaps the last person I ever thought I would hear arguing for this.
There are indeed Fixed Stars, and this was what was referenced to generate the Astrological-Astronomical understandings prior to Alexander The Great's death (and thus the era's decline... but that's another story), but these aren't referenced by the Tropical Zodiac since it's a fixed system based initially in geo-centric theory.
I think some of this schism is so personal that it is almost better taken to PMs.
Libra.
Bastemhet Err...ok, so, which one is more correct? Or does that not really count? I dunno, I'm confused.
I have a guess as to which one you would enjoy based on your tradition, but then, I had a similar guess for other folks and have been consistently wrong. |
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:04 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:05 am
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TeaDidikai rmcdra Let's see if I can explain the mechanics. It makes more sense to me to use the sun rather than the sun and stars to derive because the idealistic heavens are fixed. The heavens are fixed? Can you explain this position for me?
Quote: Quote: Since the universe is a reflection of this idealistic heavens and ultimately ourselves as well. To have the stars signs move seems rather contradictory to the idea of this idealistic heaven. Using the equinoxes and solstices as the guiding factor for determining signs rather the stars as they are now preserves this notion of an fixed idealistic heaven. Don't take this the wrong way, but you are perhaps the last person I ever thought I would hear arguing for this. There are indeed Fixed Stars, and this was what was referenced to generate the Astrological-Astronomical understandings prior to Alexander The Great's death (and thus the era's decline... but that's another story), but these aren't referenced by the Tropical Zodiac since it's a fixed system based initially in geo-centric theory. I think some of this schism is so personal that it is almost better taken to PMs.
cool. I thought it was going to be that after you said there was a 25 degree difference. |
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:43 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:52 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:54 am
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rmcdra TeaDidikai rmcdra>> I guess I just figured the mythology and symbolism for Sidereal Astrology was better suited to Gnosticism. Well I had stumbled across sidereal when I was a Neo-Pagan and was afraid of not identifying as a Scorpio anymore. I've been out of astrology when I left neo-paganism and was in that weird period between that and being called to Gnosticism. Any starting points you can recommend for examining sidereal since I have been considering looking into astrology again? |
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:48 pm
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:19 pm
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