This is a stupid question but I'm going to ask anyway thread

[TeaDidikai]

Taliah

Awe is where you find yourself inspired, or rather, amazed by something (God, Natural forces, etc.).

Might want to double check that.

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Psychodrama, I'm not really sure I've heard of before.

Psychodrama is used within religious practices to generate a sense of awe. Depending on the application, you can internally generate awe, or connect with a sense of awe independent of your surroundings.  

[Taliah]

So, awe and psychodrama are related, in that psychodrama can instill the sense of awe purposefully, right?

Does that mean psychodrama can be a good and bad thing?  

[TeaDidikai]

Taliah

So, awe and psychodrama are related, in that psychodrama can instill the sense of awe purposefully, right?

Yep.

So- once you induce an experience, try personally altering it. Ever done any lucid dreaming?

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Does that mean psychodrama can be a good and bad thing?

Yep.  

[Maze]

TeaDidikai

Taliah

So, awe and psychodrama are related, in that psychodrama can instill the sense of awe purposefully, right?

Yep.

So- once you induce an experience, try personally altering it. Ever done any lucid dreaming?

That's what NLP teaches you to do, too. Funny.  

[Deoridhe]

TeaDidikai

Taliah

Does that mean psychodrama can be a good and bad thing?

Yep.

A lot of people tend to use "psychodrama" as a negative, both because there is an element of acting implied in psychodrama (and indeed existing there) which implies a falseness.

In a lot of ways, psychodrama is a way to take everyone along for a ride (unless they're sufficiently strong/resistant to refuse or take their own boat) with a goal of worship and honoring. With multiple people who COULD take their own boats combining intentions, the drive can become very strong. With several strong personalities surrounding many weaker, a lot is depending on the ethics and morality of the strong personalities.

Personally, I think it is in the knowledge and intentions of the leaders of psychodrama where the "good" and"bad"lie, not in the possible falseness of psychodrama.  

[TheDisreputableDog]

I am a complete idiot. Tea, when you talk about "Mr. Darks" are you by any chance referencing Something Wicked This Way Comes?  

[Deoridhe]

TheDisreputableDog

I am a complete idiot. Tea, when you talk about "Mr. Darks" are you by any chance referencing Something Wicked This Way Comes?

Mr. Darks are my fault, I'm afraid. It was an old term (from 1990s ISCAbbs) for pagans caught up in "magical battles" against the Mr. Dark of their local area because they wanted to be special.

I like the term, so I use it a lot. It makes me giggle.  

[TheDisreputableDog]

Deoridhe

TheDisreputableDog

I am a complete idiot. Tea, when you talk about "Mr. Darks" are you by any chance referencing Something Wicked This Way Comes?

Mr. Darks are my fault, I'm afraid. It was an old term (from 1990s ISCAbbs) for pagans caught up in "magical battles" against the Mr. Dark of their local area because they wanted to be special.

I like the term, so I use it a lot. It makes me giggle.

I had completely forgotten about that book but I was researching Ray Bradbury to snark at my creative writing professor for vetoing "genre" fiction for his "literary" fiction class--citing Bradbury and Kurt Vonnegut as 'literary writers who use genre elements'--even though the title of the course is just "Creative Writing: Fiction," and I had a "duh" moment.  

[Shearaha]

Well, I have a stupid question. What are the terms that determine fate Nordic followings. I know that it pertains to the weight of past decisions influencing present decisions. Gahh, I don't even know how to ask this sweatdrop  

[TeaDidikai]

Deoridhe

A lot of people tend to use "psychodrama" as a negative, both because there is an element of acting implied in psychodrama (and indeed existing there) which implies a falseness.

In a lot of ways, psychodrama is a way to take everyone along for a ride (unless they're sufficiently strong/resistant to refuse or take their own boat) with a goal of worship and honoring. With multiple people who COULD take their own boats combining intentions, the drive can become very strong. With several strong personalities surrounding many weaker, a lot is depending on the ethics and morality of the strong personalities.

Personally, I think it is in the knowledge and intentions of the leaders of psychodrama where the "good" and"bad"lie, not in the possible falseness of psychodrama.

And then there's Yasmine's discussion about "Dramatic Play and Deep Play", but since I view Anton's brand of Satanism to be perfectly valid practice, I tend to take it in the same way you do- that the intentions and applications set it's nature.

Deoridhe

TheDisreputableDog

I am a complete idiot. Tea, when you talk about "Mr. Darks" are you by any chance referencing Something Wicked This Way Comes?

Mr. Darks are my fault, I'm afraid. It was an old term (from 1990s ISCAbbs) for pagans caught up in "magical battles" against the Mr. Dark of their local area because they wanted to be special.

I like the term, so I use it a lot. It makes me giggle.

I'm bookmarking this post for future reference.

Shearaha

Well, I have a stupid question. What are the terms that determine fate Nordic followings. I know that it pertains to the weight of past decisions influencing present decisions. Gahh, I don't even know how to ask this sweatdrop

Perhaps more description? Maybe an example?

There are a couple terms that come to mind- including Hamingja, fylgja, Vörðr, the complexities that are the Norns (above and beyond Urd, Verdandi and Skuld), or maybe even the Dis.  

[Shearaha]

It's a term I heard a while ago and can't remember where. It was used to mean something similar to fate. In that because of what had gone before this is what was most likely to happen next. It could be changed but depending on how much "weight" the past had over it it could take the intervention of the Nords to change it.  

[`Blaise]

i have a question about the Christian concept of sin.

basically, evil is the hole in the donut of reality; evil does not exist but it is real [it has no esse].

sin is the choice of evil over good, like stepping over one good to get to another [because no one intentionally chooses evil, according to Catholicism; we choose what we think is good, so in every choice we choose God, but some choices are less complete than others]

however, if YHVH is infinite, how can humans generate these holes of existence/do evil through sin? wouldn't that mean that God is being limited by humans in some fashion [like, move out, i'm creating a hole here]? or am i totally getting it hardcore wrong?

@ Shearaha: is that term you're looking for called wyrd?  

[Gho the Girl]

What does being a shaman mean?  

[Gho the Girl]

`Blaise

i have a question about the Christian concept of sin.

basically, evil is the hole in the donut of reality; evil does not exist but it is real [it has no esse].

sin is the choice of evil over good, like stepping over one good to get to another [because no one intentionally chooses evil, according to Catholicism; we choose what we think is good, so in every choice we choose God, but some choices are less complete than others]

however, if YHVH is infinite, how can humans generate these holes of existence/do evil through sin? wouldn't that mean that God is being limited by humans in some fashion [like, move out, i'm creating a hole here]? or am i totally getting it hardcore wrong?

@ Shearaha: is that term you're looking for called wyrd?

I don't know where you're getting that "evil is the hole in the donut of reality" idea. From what I remember, sin is merely a transgression against God, whatever it may be. God is all things, so in a sense he is all things, both good and evil, or he's removed from morality itself. Sin is breaking God's rules, so only humans can do it, and I really don't know how that limits God.  

[Violet Song jat Shariff]

Shearaha

It's a term I heard a while ago and can't remember where. It was used to mean something similar to fate. In that because of what had gone before this is what was most likely to happen next. It could be changed but depending on how much "weight" the past had over it it could take the intervention of the Nords to change it.

Are you thinking of orlog perhaps?