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Both CNN and Fox are biased, but I've had enough dealings with CNN for my classes to know they're very good at excluding certain details that change the whole story. Fox, right wing or not, tends to be more factual. And both articles happened during the Iraqi war, thus yes, they are relevant. And no, we never will quell all those shouting 'kill the infidels!', but at least we can keep them away from arms that would cause world-wide destruction and from massacering eachother and instill some measure of common sense. If we hadn't gone to war- if we had ignored them and gone our merry way, do you honestly think a bunch of people who have sworn to kill Americans and any like them as a testament to their fanatic religion would have stopped at just two towers and the Pentagon? They would have gone into a destructive frenzy! We would have appeared weak, and to a group like that, that is the last thing you want to seem like.

Nobama affiliations

By: Glenn Chappell of http://talkstraight.org/

and the TalkStraight staff.

Please visit TalkStraight for more information on exposing Obama and countering the smears against McCain and Palin.



Barack Obama has a big secret. He has major ties to William Ayers.

Over the course of seven years, Ayers found his way into nearly every facet of Obama's political and personal career. Yet, today, Obama doesn't talk about it, the media doesn't care about it, and most Americans don't know about it.

Unfortunately for The Celebrity, the facts still remain.

To understand Bill Ayers is to understand the influences that shaped Obama's early political career. The radicals and demagogues representing the Chicago establishment would make most Americans cringe. Yet, those very people constituted the voices and ideals that formed Obama's own political education. The politics of the Chicago political establishment are a far cry from the politics of hope and change. Yet, as his associations with Ayers and other Chicago radicals show, Obama was a quick study in the ways of machine politics.

There is no better example of Obama's political influences than Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. Therefore, a brief review of the facts concerning the Obama-Ayers relationship is in order.

On February 16, 1970, Bill Ayers was directly involved in the detonation of a bomb that killed one San Francisco police officer and critically wounded another. According to an FBI informant within the Weather Underground organization, Ayers knew the precise location and contents of the fatal bomb, which was constructed of staples and lead bullets as shrapnel. According to the secret agent, Ayers' wife, Bernardine Dohrn, actually constructed and detonated the bomb. The agent testified that Ayers' was either present at the bombing or had at least helped in the planning of the attack, due to his extensive knowledge and familiarity with the specifics of the plot. [5] In fact, David Freddoso argued this year that Ayers only escaped prosecution as a result of FBI management of the case. [6]

Ayers did not end his Weather Underground career with his involvement in this horrific murder. As a member of the organization's Central Committee, Ayers helped oversee a bombing in New York City at the home of a state Supreme Court Justice. This bombing was launched in response to the judge's presiding over the trial of several Black Panther members accused of planning multiple bombings of New York City public landmarks. At the site of the bomb, Weathermen painted an ominous phrase on the judge's home: "FREE THE PANTHER 21; THE VIET CONG HAVE WON; KILL THE PIGS." Ayers also helped in planning several other bombings in New York, including an attack on a military recruiting facility and two police cars. [7]

A few months later, Ayers' current girlfriend, along with two other Weather Underground members, were killed while constructing a massive bomb in New York. [8] This rose the Weathermen's body count to four dead and one seriously wounded. However, the Weathermen did not stop after the death of their comrades.

They destroyed another police station in June 1970. [2] This attack served as a warm-up act for their greatest catastrophe. After two years of planning, the Weathermen (with Ayers heavily involved in the planning details) celebrated Communist leader Ho Chi Minh's birthday by detonating a huge bomb in the ladies' bathroom on the first floor of the Pentagon. This attack caused burn damage and flooding, and resulted in the destruction of sensitive equipment and a multitude of classified files. Following this direct assault on their command center, the United States government placed the Weather Underground Organization on their Top Ten Terrorist Organizations list. [9]

Following this brutal attack, the organization began to lose the last of its remaining members, and Ayers and Dorhn went into hiding. They would turn themselves in in 1980, but were never convicted of any crimes, despite the fact that their joint involvement resulted in the death of a police officer. [10]

It appears that Ayers' belief in President Chavez is much stronger than that of John McCain.

Of course, everyone knows what Ayers was doing while McCain sat in a prison cell in Hanoi. It is safe to say that the two shared radically different views of patriotism in America.
In summary, Bill Ayers' life has been a narrative of violent, radical, extremist, socialist activism.

Ayers and Obama
After learning of Bill Ayers' radical history, one might question Ayers' relevance to the 2008 presidential campaign.

The answer is frightening.

Ayers has deep-seated and longstanding ties to the political and career aspirations of Barack Obama. While the mainstream media have refused to cover this major influence upon Obama's politics, the facts are undeniable. Hugh Hewitt, a long time journalist and blogger, summed up this unsettling connection of Obama's quite succintly:

~~~"It is incredible that MSM has not covered or investigated this story or the related stories of Obama's deep and long associations with Tony Rezko ~~~and Jeremiah Wright. Never has so little been written about so large a series of stories about a modern presidential candidate." [14]

No one knows exactly when or how Obama met Ayers. However, records show that Ayers had a prominent role in Obama's political career from the beginning. He was most likely introduced to Ayers and Dohrn during the early days of his 1995 campaign for Illinois state Senate. Alice Palmer, the incumbent senator, had announced that she would not be seeking re-election to her seat, and endorsed Obama as her successor. It was shortly thereafter that Obama's carefully concealed relationship with Ayers began.

In late 1995, Palmer introduced Obama to her most liberal supporters during a fundraiser at the home of Ayers and Dohrn. It is clear from eyewitness testimony that the former Weathermen were already enthusiastic about this new face in the Chicago political scene. Maria Warren, a fellow Chicago liberal, was among those attending this meeting and summed it up in 2005:

~~~"When I first met Barack Obama, he was giving a standard, innocuous little talk in the living room of those two legends-in-their-own-minds, Bill ~~~Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. They were launching him — introducing him to the Hyde Park community as the best thing since sliced bread." [11]

Obama's Response
While Obama and Ayers spent more than seven years together in various capacities, Obama predictably denied his association with Ayers. At first, he downplayed Ayers' terrorist activities, even calling him "mainstream" on his campaign website. [21] When this did not work, he simply denied the seriousness of his connections to Ayers. During a democratic debate last year, he made the following statement in regard to this Ayers association:

"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense."

[19]

This excuse by Obama blatantly ignores his repeated collaborations with Ayers, and fails to explain why Ayers selected him to lead the organization he founded. It is important to note that Obama made this statement many months ago, prior to new discoveries which have only served to magnify his longstanding partnership with this terrorist. Today, he simply refuses to talk about his old friend.

Despite all of the information available concerning Obama's ties to Ayers, one mystery that remains is the unflagging loyalty Ayers has shown to Obama's political career. It is of consequence to note that Ayers, on his blog, repeatedly and harshly criticizes the Democratic Party. He calls them "cowardly" and labels them as "one of the two major pro-Imperialist parties in the U.S." [22] The first question one might consider immediately is why Ayers is such an adamant supporter of Obama, especially given his disagreement with Obama's own party. Only a few people know the answer to this question. Ayers and Obama are among them. But they are not talking.

During his nomination acceptance speech, Obama criticized John McCain for making patriotism the centerpiece of his campaign. He told McCain that "we all put country first." Yet, in 2001, Obama's friend posed for a photoshoot standing proudly on top of a crumpled American flag. Ironically, the article accompanying these pictures ran the week before the September 11 attacks.

That same week, Ayers responsed to a question about America being a fair and just country. On the notion that America is a great nation, Ayers responded by saying that the very idea "makes me want to puke." [23] Bill Ayers was one of Barack Obama's closest political allies in Chicago. Obama only denounced Ayers after being confronted with his friendship during his presidential campaign. That's not putting country first. That's putting Barack first.

Just like Reverend Wright, Tony Rezko, Emil Jones, Michael Pfleger, and other radicals, Obama's link to Ayers shows that his closest political associations represent a violent radicalism far beyond mainstream American values. Ayers even describes himself as "a radical, Leftist, small 'c' communist." [24]

While Obama campaigns as a great uniter and a transformational, post-political visionary, his own record shows that his political views were formed by an astounding array of extremist hatemongers. Obama's associations show repeated and inseparable links to the corrupt, scandal-ridden, racially-driven politics of division. He wasn't ready to lead the Annenberg Challenge, and he's not ready to lead the United States. In short, the politics of Barack Obama is change we cannot afford.

immabee, you are so young, get a passport, go over there for a year then come back to us. Be sure to wear western garb there also, stand up for yourself, don't cover your face, don't go with an armed escort, mingle with the people, be sure to tell them your a US citizen, but before you go be sure you understand our pledge to our country and that if you are going to continue being a citizen of the US of America, you cannot agree with anyone who wants to over through your country.

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that's a ridiculous logical fallacy. just because someone disagrees with our administration's handling of the war doesn't mean that he/she agrees with the administrations of other countries.