Great British Comedy

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princess lolifoxxx

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Eaaasyy.

Bill Bailey.<3
Lee Evans.
Ross Noble.
Dylan Moran.<3
Monty Python.

Does Moran count as British, seeing as how he's Irish and all...

Dunno. Depends where in Ireland he's from, really.
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Uh, yea, he's from the south D: Therefore, not British...  

[xXx White Lily xXx]

Hrotsvita

Russell Howard's brilliant.

>.< Have you ever listened to his 6music radio show? The guy he does it with, Jon Richardson, is a legend. I'm hoping they do a tour together cause that'd be amazing

I believe Dylan Moran is from Navan, and went to the same school as Tommy Tiernan. I dunno why I have that piece of useless information in my head, but I do.  

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princess lolifoxxx

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princess lolifoxxx

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Eaaasyy.

Bill Bailey.<3
Lee Evans.
Ross Noble.
Dylan Moran.<3
Monty Python.

Does Moran count as British, seeing as how he's Irish and all...

Dunno. Depends where in Ireland he's from, really.
0.O

Uh, yea, he's from the south D: Therefore, not British...

Then I revoke Mr. Moran from my list.
(I have a maths teacher called Mr. Moran. Huh.)  

[Foetus In Fetu]

princess lolifoxxx

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princess lolifoxxx

Does Moran count as British, seeing as how he's Irish and all...

Dunno. Depends where in Ireland he's from, really.
0.O

Uh, yea, he's from the south D: Therefore, not British...

We need a new term, like UKian. Then everybody would know where they stood.  

[Boolean Julian]

I actually love Peep Show a ridiculous amount. Tonight was so good.  

[A Pink Iguana]

I'm off to see the Izzard in a week or so. It will be great.  

[Mr. Bono Vox]

Foetus In Fetu

princess lolifoxxx

Electrash

princess lolifoxxx

Does Moran count as British, seeing as how he's Irish and all...

Dunno. Depends where in Ireland he's from, really.
0.O

Uh, yea, he's from the south D: Therefore, not British...

We need a new term, like UKian. Then everybody would know where they stood.

What do you mean by that?  

[An Elegant Iguana]

Mr. Bono Vox

Foetus In Fetu

princess lolifoxxx

Electrash

princess lolifoxxx

Does Moran count as British, seeing as how he's Irish and all...

Dunno. Depends where in Ireland he's from, really.
0.O

Uh, yea, he's from the south D: Therefore, not British...

We need a new term, like UKian. Then everybody would know where they stood.

What do you mean by that?

United Archipelagoian, perhaps?  

[Foetus In Fetu]

I mean that the word "British" is really, you know, hazy.

The British Isles, which is a geographical, not a political entity are made up of Great Britain, Ireland et al. So anyone from either Great Britain (England, Scotland & Wales) or Ireland, or, e.g., the Isle of Man, could be referred to as 'British'. However, most would reject that and take it as a personal insult, especially those who're citizens solely of the ROI, which is a separate political entity from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (England, Scotland, Wales & NI). So, you could say 'British' is anyone from Great Britain alone. However, this excludes NI and off-mainlanders, breaking up the political entity of the United Kingdom.

The term 'UKian', or equiv, would clear all that up.

I recognise that many Irish are offended by the idea of Ireland being a part of the "British Isles" (geographical entity), and that the government discourages use of the term in this way.  

[Mr. Bono Vox]

Foetus In Fetu

I mean that the word "British" is really, you know, hazy.

The British Isles, which is a geographical, not a political entity are made up of Great Britain, Ireland et al. So anyone from either Great Britain (England, Scotland & Wales) or Ireland, or, e.g., the Isle of Man, could be referred to as 'British'. However, most would reject that and take it as a personal insult, especially those who're citizens solely of the ROI, which is a separate political entity from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (England, Scotland, Wales & NI). So, you could say 'British' is anyone from Great Britain alone. However, this excludes NI and off-mainlanders, breaking up the political entity of the United Kingdom.

The term 'UKian', or equiv, would clear all that up.

I recognise that many Irish are offended by the idea of Ireland being a part of the "British Isles" (geographical entity), and that the government discourages use of the term in this way.

I don't particularly see it as an issue, this element of interpretation has been part of the system for so long and I think it has actually helped unity in a way, in that people do have that element of freedom to declare themselves, to an extent, who they are. It's kept the system working fairly well I think.

However I do get where you're coming from, so if you want to have a solid description of where you stand, all you need to do is look at your passport (assuming you have one of course). E.g. I'm from Northern Ireland and it says in big black capitals under nationality BRITISH, so anytime people ask if I'm British or Irish, I say I'm British and get the official documents out.

As for the Irish; I like to think, that after having held a territorial claim to a part of the UK in their constitution for so long, we should be allowed to keep them on their toes. wink  

[Foetus In Fetu]

Well people should be able to refer to their own nationality however they please, whether it's a reference grounded in geography or politics or official documentation or whatever else[1] -- but when speaking about other people's nationalities and deciding how to group them en masse it would be useful if we had a term that wasn't either politically loaded or ill-defined. wink

As for me -- the only passport I have says I am Irish, but I believe my birth certificate says British (as would my UK passport had I not lost it).

And lol - isn't that the kind of attitude which fueled tensions for so long?

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1: Except for "whim". It's not good to make claims to cultures and nationalities you have no tangible connections to.  

[Boolean Julian]

Just been watching Green Wing, which I've never seen before. Stephen Mangan is absolutely awesome. I also think I'm slightly in love with Tamsin Greig. We seem to be in a golden age of sitcoms: Green Wing, Peep Show, The Office and The Thick of It all rock my world. And of course My Family. gonk  

[xXx White Lily xXx]

A Pink Iguana

I'm off to see the Izzard in a week or so. It will be great.

So. Jealous.

+ I <3 Green Wing. Boycey is my hero  

[Midnight Jasp]

My favourite stand-up comedian is Michael McIntyre. He makes me laugh so hard.  

[Invictus_88]

Am currently wallowing in the divine snobbery that is Mitchell and Webb.

Ah, it's good..