Chatter Box

[Syrotek]

hey hey hey, if human cloning was permitted, would you treat the clone as a human being?

and when that clone have kids, would the kids consider a clone or a real human being?

=o  

[~violet faerie~]

Iyamashi

hey hey hey, if human cloning was permitted, would you treat the clone as a human being?

and when that clone have kids, would the kids consider a clone or a real human being?

=o

No. Imagine you being cloned. Like looking at yourself, and seeing yourself. Your artificially created...do you even have a soul...your "clone" i mean...so no~ DDD= I dun't think they are, the kids a real human being...and how would i treat one...

I'd have to meet it first 3nodding  

[shezu]

id treat it as a human. if they were completely the same as the clone of the person. however i dun want a clone.. .__.;;

id consider the kids human.  

[Syrotek]

To violet: so you would feel nothing for it if someone was to slay it? =/

how can the kid be real if its parents are artificial?

To shezu: but human is nature's creation, how can a clone be our equal?  

[~violet faerie~]

Iyamashi

To violet: so you would feel nothing for it if someone was to slay it? =/

how can the kid be real if its parents are artificial?

To shezu: but human is nature's creation, how can a clone be our equal?

No. Why should I? It wasn't that person originally, it was like a copy...whether it became better or worse, its after that original person. Imitations are never the same. So I hardly feel any remorse if it died...it wasn't the real thing to begin with 3nodding

My point exactly...a clone with a clone...clone kids...could they even bear a child if they went with a regular human? ANd what dieseases or mutations could come from it?  

[Syrotek]

hmm, so you believe clones can feels no emotion, sheds no tear, nor thinks of life?

but the kid wasn't created in a laboratory though. like with dolly the sheep case. they said she gave birth right? are those baby sheeps considered real or artificial?  

[~violet faerie~]

Iyamashi

hmm, so you believe clones can feels no emotion, sheds no tear, nor thinks of life?

but the kid wasn't created in a laboratory though. like with dolly the sheep case. they said she gave birth right? are those baby sheeps considered real or artificial?

Its a clone. So yea, it has emotions, feelings and tears, but it dosen't have a soul :/ So what are you without a soul DDDDD= Your on teh same level as an animal, in the sense that you have feelings, dogs can feel hurt, sadness and pain but they have no soul :/

Even the scientists say we have a soul...when we die our bodies are .8 mm lighter than they were just before =33

There consider half breeds~ :/ do they half souls then ^^;;  

[Syrotek]

such religious aspect can get in the way of "humane" thoughts. animals protection programs prevent science from doing certain things to animals. do they still have to abid by those rules in the case of clones? as you've said "its a clone."

the .8mm might due to the fact that oxygen left our bodies or we no longer take in water. xD just to let you know. =P

exactly, how does such thing exist then?  

[~violet faerie~]

Iyamashi

such religious aspect can get in the way of "humane" thoughts. animals protection programs prevent science from doing certain things to animals. do they still have to abid by those rules in the case of clones? as you've said "its a clone."

the .8mm might due to the fact that oxygen left our bodies or we no longer take in water. xD just to let you know. =P

exactly, how does such thing exist then?

THey would have to abide by a lot of new stuff. Including, discremanation and stuff. :/ That would be the scary part.

Yea whatever, mr. sciencetist~ I still think its teh soul regardless :Whee:

What such thing?  

[Syrotek]

well why do they have to? you've said they're not real, why treat them as real then?

i'm catholic, i believe i was taught that soul has no mass. =P

a half soul. =P  

[~violet faerie~]

Iyamashi

well why do they have to? you've said they're not real, why treat them as real then?

i'm catholic, i believe i was taught that soul has no mass. =P

a half soul. =P

Your the one that turned it around saying about would the differnt protection programs be used on them. If they are allowed to live in society i think they would protest protection whether we want or not. I'm not teh government.

Yush you are a catholic xP

I was taught it does xDDDD  

[Syrotek]

lol, i'm not turning around on anything. i simply want to enlarge my knowledge on this subject. and to do so, i must ask all sort of questions. =P

lol, how can souls have mass?  

[shezu]

what is a natural creation? what created us humans? if people say god created humans..than wouldnt it be the same of us creating clones be just as naturally created as humans were by god? if you beleive in the evolution theory..what created apes? what created dna?..what created anything..im not christian nore do i beleive any of the religious ways but i do beleive there is something that creates things. like maybe some type of god..but i dont beleive in heaven nore hell either..reincarnation seems more beleiveable for me.

and im sure even clones have emotions and feelings..sure they are a copy of a original being..but does that mean they wont feel that they wont be close to what the original is? im sure it would still be just as the same as human wanting to expirenece life..and feels what we feel..because they are a copy of us..and we have emotions..so why wont clones? im sure they would.  

[~violet faerie~]

Iyamashi

lol, i'm not turning around on anything. i simply want to enlarge my knowledge on this subject. and to do so, i must ask all sort of questions. =P

lol, how can souls have mass?

=OOOO It'd be a bit like a heart then wouldnt' it whee  

[Blazen_Raven]

Iyamashi

To raven: lol, no more green and orange and brown?

nope no more whee