Elemental Weapon of Ether?

[saint dreya]

deadmanjake

Lord Elf asked what do we do if they fail? Since instead of giving them huge infodumps, we just ask them those three, but what do we do if they fail?

call them on it of course. mind, i would probably still provide some of the info dumps. every once in a while, you do get someone who is honestly interested and has just been spoon fed lies. with the info dumps, they might get steared in the right direction.  

[TeaDidikai]

deadmanjake

Lord Elf asked what do we do if they fail? Since instead of giving them huge infodumps, we just ask them those three, but what do we do if they fail?

Actually, we still give them infodumps.
Back when the Three Questions were the norm, we'd ask, they'd fail, we gave them the infodumps.

No reason that should change eh?  

[Henry Dorsett Case]

deadmanjake

Lord Elf asked what do we do if they fail? Since instead of giving them huge infodumps, we just ask them those three, but what do we do if they fail?

Send Tea after them to Trout them?  

[jaden kendam]

TeaDidikai

deadmanjake

Lord Elf asked what do we do if they fail? Since instead of giving them huge infodumps, we just ask them those three, but what do we do if they fail?

Actually, we still give them infodumps.
Back when the Three Questions were the norm, we'd ask, they'd fail, we gave them the infodumps.

No reason that should change eh?

But what if they are like many and the infodumps are not even read? What do we do then? Other than report them that is.  

[TeaDidikai]

deadmanjake

But what if they are like many and the infodumps are not even read? What do we do then? Other than report them that is.

Simply report them for spam.  

[saint dreya]

deadmanjake

But what if they are like many and the infodumps are not even read? What do we do then? Other than report them that is.

same thing we do now. hammer it into their thick skulls, ram them into the floor a time or two and then stick around long enough to watch them leave in a huff.  

[jaden kendam]

phoenix shadowwolf

deadmanjake

But what if they are like many and the infodumps are not even read? What do we do then? Other than report them that is.

same thing we do now. hammer it into their thick skulls, ram them into the floor a time or two and then stick around long enough to watch them leave in a huff.

HAHAHHAHAHHA...now my jaw hurts from such an image...  

[TeaDidikai]

Henry Dorsett Case

deadmanjake

Lord Elf asked what do we do if they fail? Since instead of giving them huge infodumps, we just ask them those three, but what do we do if they fail?

Send Tea after them to Trout them?

Trouts are love!  

[Morphenius]

Huh.

Okay, this has been a confusion of mine for many years, so if someone would care to elaborate I would much appreciate it.

Why does Wicca need secrets?

The rationale that the secrets are needed to identify "real Wiccans" from fluffies doesn't make much sense to me. The reason fluffies are a problem is because they're immature. That will become evident within the first few minutes of conversation when they start talking about how much cooler they are than the rest of the world because they're Wiccan, or how they're constantly victimized by the world or the gods, or how they know they're getting true communications from divine beings because "it feels right." I have never felt the need for a fluff-detector because most of them have their fluff factor tattooed on their foreheads.

Is there some other reason I'm unaware of?  

[CuAnnan]

Morphenius

Why does Wicca need secrets?

That's a secret.

Ok, it's not, but it was a funny answer.

There are a few reasons.
1) You can't be told the truth, you have to live it. A secret
2) You can't be told the truth, it would break you. A secret
3) There are their secret beliefs..... they're entiteled to keep them that way.  

[TeaDidikai]

Morphenius

Why does Wicca need secrets?

Because Wicca is a Mystery religion based upon the communal experience of Intiated Clergy.

As Reagun said- the Mysteries can't be written, they are experienced.

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The rationale that the secrets are needed to identify "real Wiccans" from fluffies doesn't make much sense to me. The reason fluffies are a problem is because they're immature. That will become evident within the first few minutes of conversation when they start talking about how much cooler they are than the rest of the world because they're Wiccan, or how they're constantly victimized by the world or the gods, or how they know they're getting true communications from divine beings because "it feels right." I have never felt the need for a fluff-detector because most of them have their fluff factor tattooed on their foreheads.

This needs context. One cannot prove one is Wiccan on a webforum.

We can however, show that someone doesn't know enough to be Wiccan in the first place. This is where the Elemental Weapon of Ether comes in.

Every fluff and their uncle claiming to be Wiccan without actually being Wiccan violates the rules of M&R. As a result- we have to be able to show that they aren't Wiccan so we can move on with the discussion/debate at hand. It causes us to get sidetracked often, but it does maintain the structure of M&R which has been breaking down for a long time now.  

[jaden kendam]

TeaDidikai

Morphenius

Why does Wicca need secrets?

Because Wicca is a Mystery religion based upon the communal experience of Intiated Clergy.

As Reagun said- the Mysteries can't be written, they are experienced.

Quote:

The rationale that the secrets are needed to identify "real Wiccans" from fluffies doesn't make much sense to me. The reason fluffies are a problem is because they're immature. That will become evident within the first few minutes of conversation when they start talking about how much cooler they are than the rest of the world because they're Wiccan, or how they're constantly victimized by the world or the gods, or how they know they're getting true communications from divine beings because "it feels right." I have never felt the need for a fluff-detector because most of them have their fluff factor tattooed on their foreheads.

This needs context. One cannot prove one is Wiccan on a webforum.

We can however, show that someone doesn't know enough to be Wiccan in the first place. This is where the Elemental Weapon of Ether comes in.

Every fluff and their uncle claiming to be Wiccan without actually being Wiccan violates the rules of M&R. As a result- we have to be able to show that they aren't Wiccan so we can move on with the discussion/debate at hand. It causes us to get sidetracked often, but it does maintain the structure of M&R which has been breaking down for a long time now.

Yeah, so simplifying it and asking the three right off the bat will make it easier to sift out those who actually want to know, and those who will never listen. Though I am find more of the latter as of late. sad  

[Tsuzuki]

Read the Book of Five Rings, by Miyamoto Musashi and you will know what the elemental weapon of ether is.

Am I close, reagun?  

[Henry Dorsett Case]

I'm still in the cookie school. Either a cookie...or some other vaguely roundish thing...  

[TeaDidikai]

Henry Dorsett Case

I'm still in the cookie school. Either a cookie...or some other vaguely roundish thing...

As long as it has Fairy floss and pink sparkles.