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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:58 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:06 pm
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Nuri TeaDidikai I guess I assumed that they were looking for quality over quantity. Myself, I would rather meet three quality people than a larger number of scuz. Witchvox has never impressed me. The Yahoo Group I met with once made my skin crawl. However, individual friends who I have other interests with have taken me to different social situations where I have made lifelong friends. I look for quality too, actually. I just have a different way of finding it. Meeting Amelia in PROTECT, got me at least 2 other quality friends. Some people have a harder time meeting other people, if there isn't already an expressed shared interest. That's all. Goodness, if I hadn't joined fighting my first week of school, I probably wouldn't have made very many good friends.
Different methods of aquiring the same goal really.
One way seems to be going for people of quality right off the go, and then going thru six degree of seperation to find someone both of quality and of similiar interest.
The other is dealing with the similiar interest first, and then finding amongst that group, people who are of quality.
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:49 pm
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:28 am
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:28 am
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:47 pm
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missmagpie TatteredAngel So I can see flat out searching for the community. When I first got lonely I searched. Then I discovered it was the friends I already had that were of the greatest value. It may be more likely amongst the youth here, but some people you might not expect could be very open to your views. Even Christians sometimes have a lot to say for themselves. Hell, even talking anthropology with my dad was an experience. Choosing friends based solely on religion is dangerous. Sometimes you neglect to notice what the rest of the person is like. I don't disagree. I just think fellow feeling can be nice. I talk about spirituality with a lot of my friends. We share our very differing beliefs. And that's nice, but it isn't the same as sharing similar beliefs, which would also be nice, sometimes. I would never choose a friend based on religion, nor would I choose a friend based on any one shared interest/trait/etc. I don't think that means that you shouldn't look for groups of people period, just that you should, like any time, do it with a clear head.
Some of you seem fairly opposed to the idea of looking for a group of people, period. Do you think that looking for a religious community is something more dangerous than looking for any other kind of specific community? If so, do you think it's best to wait until you just happen upon a friend who is already part of a community you could be introduced to, or is it that you feel like attempts at such communities are generally something to stay away from, or something else?
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:33 am
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TatteredAngel Some of you seem fairly opposed to the idea of looking for a group of people, period. For me- my practice is limited to my family. Two different families won't do things the same way, so there isn't a whole lot of reason in seeking out someone of a similar tradition (especially considering most of the ethnic culture that the metagenetic path comes from has converted to Islam or Christendom) when they likely won't do things the same way.
Quote: Do you think that looking for a religious community is something more dangerous than looking for any other kind of specific community? Actually- I do, at least within the pagan scene.
Every religion has it's nutters and scum. The pagan scene however seems to have more than it's fair share in my experience.
Quote: If so, do you think it's best to wait until you just happen upon a friend who is already part of a community you could be introduced to, This is how I suggest going about it personally. For example- I met the individual who introduced me to the local pagan scene through mutual friends at school.
At some point one of the individuals said something about running a-muck. To which, both he and I jumped up and down saying "A muck! A muck! A muck! A muck! A muck!".
We looked at each other- and laughed and have been the best of friends (and enemies) ever since.
He introduced me to the owner of the Occult Shop I worked at. In turn, I met a long time friend of his who introduced me to the RossVikings, and for all their merits and flaws, they are the most rational pagan group I have ever had dealings with.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:51 am
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:31 pm
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missmagpie Why exactly do you feel a community liaison is so important? Your path is your own. Though talking about it may be therapeutic, it won't make it any less lonely. Honestly? The same reason I'm here in this guild online. I like to learn from others. I like to talk with others about similar ideas, experiences, etc. I like talking to people who are Pagan in ways that are different than how I like to talk to people who are Christian or atheist or what have you. It's nice online, but I don't know any of you in person, and for me, face-time is really different. I don't think it's unrea
I don't think I'm naive, and I'm not supertrusting. I wouldn't be looking for just any group and diving in blindly. This is all in theory too. I haven't been looking. I haven't been so dying for community and so lonely that I can't manage. But on the flip side, I am not very likely to meet any other pagans where I am without some looking.
I'm just wondering why it's such a bad idea to see what's out there and test the waters. Right now, I simply don't know what's there. I knew there was one singular pagan group in my home town, and that they were your generic "Wiccan" fluff, and I didn't associate with them. But at least I knew what was there. I don't know anything about what exists in the city here. I'm curious, and I feel like saying "They're probably all sleaze and drama and fluff" before I've even looked to be self-defeating.
I can see all of the reasons I shouldn't fixate on a group aspect, and I don't. I can see all of the reasons that I shouldn't just join up with whoever I meet, and that's also not something I would do. What I guess I'm missing is why it would a bad idea to even just take a look, which is sort of the feeling I'm getting from the various responses.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:20 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:59 pm
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missmagpie TatteredAngel If you're in a city, often local occultic shops have fliers up for meetings. Get someone you know (even one of the employees) to vouch for them. Maybe they'll have suggestions as to which are worthwhile, and which would not be the best idea. Big fairs and festivals can be good places too, if only because they're out in the open and full of people. Bring a friend. Quote honestly, my guess is that there's crap out there anyway. Most of what I've seen in this neck of the woods isn't so much dangerous, but gagworthy cutesy abounds. But I don't know for sure, and there's that little voice in the back of my head saying I should at least look before I dismiss it all out of hand. That's all. I don't think anybody's told you not to. All I'm saying is that I've looked and it aint that pretty. But of course, I had to look to find that out. wink It was just that the feeling was that it was pretty much unequivocally a bad idea, rather than feeling like I was being told not to.
Didn't mean to seem too ruffled-feathered or anything, anyway. It's not honestly that big an issue for me, just something that would be nice.
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:40 am
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