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Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:34 pm
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:52 am
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:11 pm
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:36 pm
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:38 pm
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 7:20 pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:36 am
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:35 am
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TN_Lark Yet I have been told by an Alexandrian HPS that things may be added as long as nothing of the core praxis is taken away. Is that not a form of eclecticism?
Wiccans must teach Wicca as it was taught to them. Understand that first.
Having said that, of course what you said is true, if you consider it so. Indeed, every single Wiccan out there is eclectic if you consider that they say "bless you" after people sneeze, do their own prayers at times, and interact with their families in an eclectic manner if their family has a Pagan practice. However, that core that you mentioned is important, and like I said before, if Wiccans replaced that core with something else, it would no longer be Wicca.Kudzu If they have abandoned the traditional praxis for eclecticism, I believe that "keeping the Mysteries" would be impossible, which is why I told Charity.Solei that they were no longer practicing Wiccans. I'm sorry if that was not clear in my previous posts.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:01 am
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[Kudzu] Charity.Solei If a coven kept the mysteries of Wicca but were eccletic in praticies would you say that a new tradition was formed that could be considered Wicca? No. From what I understand of the situation you've presented, I would say they were no longer practicing Wiccans. Thats like asking "if someone (or a group of people) was Initiated Wiccan and then decided that they didn't like practicing Wicca and then became a practicing Christian, would their church be Wiccan?" The answer in both cases is no. Though the people in both cases would obviously have found a better and more fulfilling path for themselves, that path would not be Wiccan. Nobody who entered that eclectic coven (or church) would be automatically Wiccan, either. You ask a very good question though, and one that I should address in my FAQ right now because a lot of people seem to get confused about similar situations. That's what I was wondering. One of the Covens in my area is "ecletic Alexandriean" which is why I asked this question.
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Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:29 pm
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:55 am
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:40 am
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TN_Lark Kudzu Wiccans must teach Wicca as it was taught to them. Understand that first. One of my concerns with the OC material that we were being taught is that occasionally the teacher (and HPS of the coven) would say that we had to learn a particular ritual/teaching...but she would say that she had no idea why we did somethat that way or what it meant other than it was something that was passed to her and she needed to pass it to us.
My statement above does not apply to any outer courts because she wasn't teaching you Wicca at all. Outer Courts are not for the purpose of training in Wicca. So she didn't have to pass on any non-Wiccan material as it was passed on to her. I don't know why she would do so if she couldn't make heads or tails of the crap they fed her in outer court!
TN_Lark Is this common, or did I just run into a teacher that wasn't particularly well prepared?
It's quite uncommon in outer court, since people can make up whatever fun non-Wiccan activities and silly Pagan stuff they want the outer court to be about! Most people choose to waste everybody's time with at least stuff they enjoy and understand! I suppose it must depend on the Elder who is running the thing.
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:38 am
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:19 pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:48 pm
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