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 Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:23 pm
Sulhir ceilisidhe Ring around the rosies sores from the bubonic plague were open sores with red swelling surroundingA pocket full of posies posies had a strong aroma and so were placed in the pockets of the bodies to help mask the stench before being placed on the street for pick-up by "burners"Ashes, ashes the bodies were incinerated in huge piles in the town squareWe all fall down no matter the precautions tens of thousands died. On a side note it was the church's decree that cats were demonic (hence superstitions about black cats) which caused a shortage of them (they were often captured and killed). Without cats to control the rat population.....you see the point.I'm afraid that this one isn't true. I haven't researched the other ones, but I know that the ring around the rosies is wrong. I will go pull that up and post it in a bit. I hadn't paid attention to the first part, but that is true. The roses part. The bubonic plague was actually 3 different diseases. It's very much known as the "black plague" because of the most deadly disease, I forgot what it was called, but it's where an area of the skin turns black. It's like a 24-hour warning that you have the disease. After about a day with that black patch, you die. And it really does turn black (sometimes even a very dark purple/blue), not like the race black. I'm just adding this in, but there still isn't a known cure for any one of those diseases. Please don't mix up treatment with cure. I got into an argument with a licenced nurse about this when I was 12, and, needless to say, I won.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:30 pm
Kitsune-Yokai ceilisidhe In my fever - induced delirium I hummed the old nursery rhyme while contemplating the meaning behind the ditty and others like it. I'll share; Ring around the rosies sores from the bubonic plague were open sores with red swelling surroundingA pocket full of posies posies had a strong aroma and so were placed in the pockets of the bodies to help mask the stench before being placed on the street for pick-up by "burners"Ashes, ashes the bodies were incinerated in huge piles in the town squareWe all fall down no matter the precautions tens of thousands died. On a side note it was the church's decree that cats were demonic (hence superstitions about black cats) which caused a shortage of them (they were often captured and killed). Without cats to control the rat population.....you see the point.London Bridges, amusingly enough, is about the French Revolution. Feel free to post other rhymes with morbid or hidden undertones. (one about falling from branches comes to mind) No offense, but those are really commonly known. You don't need a fever to figure that out. I learned it in 7th grade history. That was 3 years ago. Sorry to have been less than clear in my post - actually I knew the meaning when I was 2 (yes, I said two.My I.Q. is rated as the top 5% in the world)as my grandmere was eccentric. I merely stated that my fever brought back fond memories of amusingly morbid songs. I'd speak of others of interest to me only I haven't the inclination anymore. Perhaps another day I shall dust this topic off ere I bring it to the fore once again.
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:12 pm
Dr_lecter1988 Quote: (How anyone could credibly assert that a rhyme which didn't appear in print until 1881 actually "began about 1347" is a mystery. If the rhyme were really this old, then "Ring Around the Rosie" antedates even Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, and therefore we would have examples of this rhyme in Middle English as well as Modern English forms.) Plato and the illiad, Beowulf. shall i go on with songs/poems that weren't written down for hundreds of years but passed down orally? I never read the rhyme ring around the rosie in a book before the age of ten but i knew it at the age of 5 because of oral passing. somehow snopes doesn't hold much ground with me. There is actually reference to the rhyme more than a century before the Plague... And, even if you disagree with one thing Snopes has said, why would you dislike it overall? In my experience Snopes has been one of the best sources of information on several controversial issues.
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:14 pm
Wouldn't it be funny if someone just happened to be sitting in a ring of roses with a pocket full of posies, sneezed and fell down?
And that's how the song started?
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:59 pm
Raethyn Sarachael Wouldn't it be funny if someone just happened to be sitting in a ring of roses with a pocket full of posies, sneezed and fell down? And that's how the song started? That would be too cool.
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:53 am
i've known about the meaning of ring around the rosies since 5th grade when i was doing random historical reaserch
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:36 am
razorblade6060 i've known about the meaning of ring around the rosies since 5th grade when i was doing random historical reaserch Would you care to share this "truth"? Because it seems to be a matter of some confusion, even amongst scholars. It would be nice to get the insight of a fifth grader...
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:55 pm
ringwraith10 Well, we've always got "Puff the Magic Dragon", but I don't know if that counts... Are you talking about how everybody things that drug related? The show may be but if you hear the song. Its about depressiong and suiccide. Puff gets lonely becuse he was the product of a child's imagenation. When the child grows up and stops playing with puff. Puff swimms out to the ocean until you cant see him anymore. its a healthy assumtion that he swam out until he drowned.
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:49 pm
[quote="Dr_lecter1988"
Plato and the illiad, Beowulf. shall i go on with songs/poems that weren't written down for hundreds of years but passed down orally? I never read the rhyme ring around the rosie in a book before the age of ten but i knew it at the age of 5 because of oral passing. somehow snopes doesn't hold much ground with me.
But there's also a flaw in your argument. With Plato and the illiad, though printing measures were available, but they were'nt massivly spread. even id the poem did origionate in 1347, the Gutenberg printing press was inented in 1450 yet the earlies printing was in 1881. I find it hard to beleive that it didn't find it's way into text despite the invention of a wide-spread method of printing for 431 years.
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:25 pm
Yea I've seen some of these a few times.
One of my teachers told me a few of 'em.
My 6th grade science teacher actually - Mrs. Cook.
I thought it was pretty interesting to see the many meanings of the things that they teache these kids.
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:46 pm
[The rumour about Ring around the rosies is fake, btw]
[I thought the one about the crooked man was rather morbid]
[But, I've always iked it (:]
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:51 pm
ceilisidhe Kitsune-Yokai ceilisidhe In my fever - induced delirium I hummed the old nursery rhyme while contemplating the meaning behind the ditty and others like it. I'll share; Ring around the rosies sores from the bubonic plague were open sores with red swelling surroundingA pocket full of posies posies had a strong aroma and so were placed in the pockets of the bodies to help mask the stench before being placed on the street for pick-up by "burners"Ashes, ashes the bodies were incinerated in huge piles in the town squareWe all fall down no matter the precautions tens of thousands died. On a side note it was the church's decree that cats were demonic (hence superstitions about black cats) which caused a shortage of them (they were often captured and killed). Without cats to control the rat population.....you see the point.London Bridges, amusingly enough, is about the French Revolution. Feel free to post other rhymes with morbid or hidden undertones. (one about falling from branches comes to mind) No offense, but those are really commonly known. You don't need a fever to figure that out. I learned it in 7th grade history. That was 3 years ago. Sorry to have been less than clear in my post - actually I knew the meaning when I was 2 (yes, I said two.My I.Q. is rated as the top 5% in the world)as my grandmere was eccentric. I merely stated that my fever brought back fond memories of amusingly morbid songs. I'd speak of others of interest to me only I haven't the inclination anymore. Perhaps another day I shall dust this topic off ere I bring it to the fore once again.
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