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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:04 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:07 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:15 pm
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Kuudere-senpai Haunting Paranoia I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with you when you said, "No one is wiccan unless they are part of a real coven and have been initiated as such." Anyone has the liberty of calling themselves worshiper or in practice of whatever religion they follow. What you have said is like saying a Christian who has either not been baptized or does not regularly attend Church does not have the right to call themselves Christian because they do not take part in group official ceremonies/practices/meetings/etc. Oh gawd. I'm terrible at explaining this so I'm just going to say you need to read the stuff said in the thread that I've linked you. There is PLENTY there to help clear up the understanding of the word Wicca or Wiccan. Anyone can be a witch! But not all witches are pagan and not all witches are wiccan. This is probably about the very first things I've learned while talking with others in learning about Pagan Paths and Wicca. Completely different, and if you call yourself wiccan you are misusing the title which you did not earn through an initiated coven.
Again, you do not need to earn the title of your religion. A Wiccan can practice in solitary without ever joining a coven.
I am a witch. I practice Wicca. Therefore I must be a Wiccan.
http://paganwiccan.about.com/od/recommendedreading/a/WAGFSP.htm
Anyone is capable of making their own private coven at the cost of that they know what they're doing and can safely execute the making of one. Just because these covens are not popular doesn't mean they do not exist.
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:18 pm
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Haunting Paranoia Kuudere-senpai Haunting Paranoia I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with you when you said, "No one is wiccan unless they are part of a real coven and have been initiated as such." Anyone has the liberty of calling themselves worshiper or in practice of whatever religion they follow. What you have said is like saying a Christian who has either not been baptized or does not regularly attend Church does not have the right to call themselves Christian because they do not take part in group official ceremonies/practices/meetings/etc. Oh gawd. I'm terrible at explaining this so I'm just going to say you need to read the stuff said in the thread that I've linked you. There is PLENTY there to help clear up the understanding of the word Wicca or Wiccan. Anyone can be a witch! But not all witches are pagan and not all witches are wiccan. This is probably about the very first things I've learned while talking with others in learning about Pagan Paths and Wicca. Completely different, and if you call yourself wiccan you are misusing the title which you did not earn through an initiated coven. Again, you do not need to earn the title of your religion. A Wiccan can practice in solitary without ever joining a coven. I am a witch. I practice Wicca. Therefore I must be a Wiccan. http://paganwiccan.about.com/od/recommendedreading/a/WAGFSP.htmAnyone is capable of making their own private coven at the cost of that they know what they're doing and can safely execute the making of one. Just because these covens are not popular doesn't mean they do not exist. About.com. That's not a reliable resource. Sorry to say. That is a good starting point though.
What is Wicca? - a Gaia Guild Thread. This explains it ALL. Any questions then there is a discussion thread where you can post your point and etc.
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:20 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:31 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:32 pm
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Wicca Q & A As I've mentioned before here is the wicca q and a thread. I'm going to quote the first post, as its pretty much what I'm trying to do here, not to start an argument.
Quote: The reason for this thread, really, is that often these discussions turn into flaming rows. I'd like to get this all out of the way now with as little drama as possible. Please keep in mind, when reading or posting: The reality of what Wicca is and is not in no way reflects on the legitimacy of your own religion. If this information causes you any distress or upsets you, please take a few breaths before responding. We know that discovering something like this can come as a shock. Rest assured that nothing here is an attack on you or on the religion you practise. Before presenting counter-arguments, first think of what questions you could ask to determine how we reached the standpoint we have given here. Once we've clarified, you can refine your arguments. Having said that, this is not a proper debate thread. It's not intended to be about the counter-and-thrust of a debate. We seek only to clarify and aid understanding herein.
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:34 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:35 pm
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Kuudere-senpai Haunting Paranoia I do not care for links. I want to see quotes from scriptures and legitimate texts. THen you're looking for reconstructionist groups! These people learn and do their practices based off of old writings and the like. My second Wicca Q & A thread explains a little on reconstructionism and what it is.
However, from a reconstructionist stance, can you provide me the same information of how you must earn the Wiccan title?
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:45 pm
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Haunting Paranoia Kuudere-senpai Haunting Paranoia I do not care for links. I want to see quotes from scriptures and legitimate texts. THen you're looking for reconstructionist groups! These people learn and do their practices based off of old writings and the like. My second Wicca Q & A thread explains a little on reconstructionism and what it is. However, from a reconstructionist stance, can you provide me the same information of how you must earn the Wiccan title? I dont know much about reconstructionism. So I can't say that I can. I'm sure Sanguina or Morg and a few other ladies from the threads I've been linking can though! They know more than I do~ and are great at explaining things to new learners of pagan paths and what it means to be a pagan or wicca or neo-eclectic and etc.
I myself am only interested my own traditions, and a bit of shamanism from all over the world. Native American Tradition is my thing. I can tell you all I can about that. But still need to learn more about other practices and such.
Lyke I said before though~! Not all Witches are Wiccan and not all Witches are Pagan. You need to be able to understand that in order to weed out misinformation and misuse of the title wiccan.
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:48 pm
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StrayKit cool! I've never heard of hedgecraft before though...and it is possible to be wiccan and not part of a coven, it's really common actually. there's solitary practitioners, people who do things on their own. covens can be tricky, they might not be what you're looking for or be close but you still aren't comfortable with it, so a lot of people stick to solitary practice. a lot of people think that to be wiccan you have to be part of it like....how a lot of people think you can't really be Christian if you don't go to church regularly, or something like that. well in comparison those are still not huge changes. I mean some people think religion or spirituality or what have you will completely change everything about their lives, but it isn't always true. you are right though, learning about it and being part of it gives different experiences. studying religions over all and learning about them, the history, importance, meanings, teachings, all of that is still great though. and there is a lot of absolutely gorgeous and amazing artwork and architecture built through out the years that came from a basis in one religion or another too. let's not get started on art emotion_drool
Those are less extreme examples. We've seen a lot about the extreme Christans (god hates fags, non-christans will go to hell, those who protest at military funerals, etc.). The KKK is one such example. I'm sure most, if not all of us, know someone who is obsessed over their religion
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:01 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:03 pm
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