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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:47 pm
OK here are the cards that are new to my deck: Gale Blackwing whirlwind chaos sorcerer black rose dragon magical android mist wurm these are all that I know about
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:42 am
Freed the Benevolent Moosenstein Aya_Aki_kun Moosenstein This baffles me, how can you run lightsworn beatdown, without their best beatstick? What the hell seriously. Gragonith, is who I'm talking about it, in case you forgot. gargonith sucks hard. And freeds build = yes -a lyla, celestia or ryko + a card trooper It's a beatdown deck, not a generic lightsworn deck. Why the hell wouldn't you have a 1 tribute 4000 attack piercing monster in it? neutral Because it's still a bad card, with Lightsworn Beatdown stilla bad tactic. If you think about the name without looking at the deck, you're going to assume it's different, and suggest poorly to it.
But look at the list - it's Lightsworn. Not a beat-down meant to summon monster after monster until your opponent has no Life Points left never loosening the field, it's Lightsworn. The names are there, Judgment Dragon is there, the Spell and Trap lineup almost fits that of standard. This isn't wholly Lightsworn Beatdown, but the OP's adjustment of the standard to the new list.He said it was beat down. Nothing is more beatdown than Gragonith. That's my point.
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Francine These Chocodiles
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:17 pm
Moosenstein Freed the Benevolent Moosenstein Aya_Aki_kun Moosenstein This baffles me, how can you run lightsworn beatdown, without their best beatstick? What the hell seriously. Gragonith, is who I'm talking about it, in case you forgot. gargonith sucks hard. And freeds build = yes -a lyla, celestia or ryko + a card trooper It's a beatdown deck, not a generic lightsworn deck. Why the hell wouldn't you have a 1 tribute 4000 attack piercing monster in it? neutral Because it's still a bad card, with Lightsworn Beatdown stilla bad tactic. If you think about the name without looking at the deck, you're going to assume it's different, and suggest poorly to it.
But look at the list - it's Lightsworn. Not a beat-down meant to summon monster after monster until your opponent has no Life Points left never loosening the field, it's Lightsworn. The names are there, Judgment Dragon is there, the Spell and Trap lineup almost fits that of standard. This isn't wholly Lightsworn Beatdown, but the OP's adjustment of the standard to the new list.He said it was beat down. Nothing is more beatdown than Gragonith. That's my point. And still, I disagree. Like everything else, beatdown's #1 requirement of success is to be efficient. Are you really going to waste a tribute for Gragonith?
In comparison, you could take this ideal and put it next to one of the most recognizable LIGHT Beats in the game - Little City. Strength-wise, Elemental Hero Neos is the strongest LIGHT Hero, does that mean it should be in the deck? Absolutely not, it sucks.
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:23 pm
Freed the Benevolent Moosenstein Freed the Benevolent Moosenstein Aya_Aki_kun Moosenstein This baffles me, how can you run lightsworn beatdown, without their best beatstick? What the hell seriously. Gragonith, is who I'm talking about it, in case you forgot. gargonith sucks hard. And freeds build = yes -a lyla, celestia or ryko + a card trooper It's a beatdown deck, not a generic lightsworn deck. Why the hell wouldn't you have a 1 tribute 4000 attack piercing monster in it? neutral Because it's still a bad card, with Lightsworn Beatdown stilla bad tactic. If you think about the name without looking at the deck, you're going to assume it's different, and suggest poorly to it.
But look at the list - it's Lightsworn. Not a beat-down meant to summon monster after monster until your opponent has no Life Points left never loosening the field, it's Lightsworn. The names are there, Judgment Dragon is there, the Spell and Trap lineup almost fits that of standard. This isn't wholly Lightsworn Beatdown, but the OP's adjustment of the standard to the new list.He said it was beat down. Nothing is more beatdown than Gragonith. That's my point. And still, I disagree. Like everything else, beatdown's #1 requirement of success is to be efficient. Are you really going to waste a tribute for Gragonith?
In comparison, you could take this ideal and put it next to one of the most recognizable LIGHT Beats in the game - Little City. Strength-wise, Elemental Hero Neos is the strongest LIGHT Hero, does that mean it should be in the deck? Absolutely not, it sucks.You are thinking ahead. I am thinking of the immediate situation, where someone would need power. Disregarding everything else on the field besides the player's monsters. Gragonith will always have monstrous attack if the duel has gone on for a couple turns(in a competent lightsworn deck) and has piercing. In such a situation, there is nothing simpler and easier to beat down with, than gragonith. This is my point. I thought it would be obvious but you missed my point.
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Francine These Chocodiles
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:09 am
I often considered that to be a good thing. Is it not anymore?Moosenstein I am thinking of the immediate situation, where someone would need power. And you're saying Gragonith would provide that? Gragonith being a tribute-required monster, and attack gain needing the monster count in Graveyard to be dependable as a beater exceeding that of a Monarch, it's hardly an on-the-spot play. Clearly our definitions of "immediate" are far and wide between.Moosenstein Disregarding everything else on the field besides the player's monsters. In which case, I still wouldn't play Gragonith. Moosenstein Gragonith will always have monstrous attack if the duel has gone on for a couple turns(in a competent lightsworn deck) and has piercing. "For a couple turns" doesn't sound very "immediate" to me.Moosenstein In such a situation, there is nothing simpler and easier to beat down with, than gragonith. How about a monster that's, well, efficient and can be summoned without cost?Moosenstein This is my point. I thought it would be obvious but you missed my point. Yet, the point you're trying to make is completely inaccurate, and not well thought out if at all. An instant monster, at any point of the game to be a large beater for its size? Sounds a lot more like Jain.
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:34 am
Freed the Benevolent I often considered that to be a good thing. Is it not anymore?Moosenstein I am thinking of the immediate situation, where someone would need power. And you're saying Gragonith would provide that? Gragonith being a tribute-required monster, and attack gain needing the monster count in Graveyard to be dependable as a beater exceeding that of a Monarch, it's hardly an on-the-spot play. Clearly our definitions of "immediate" are far and wide between.Moosenstein Disregarding everything else on the field besides the player's monsters. In which case, I still wouldn't play Gragonith. Moosenstein Gragonith will always have monstrous attack if the duel has gone on for a couple turns(in a competent lightsworn deck) and has piercing. "For a couple turns" doesn't sound very "immediate" to me.Moosenstein In such a situation, there is nothing simpler and easier to beat down with, than gragonith. How about a monster that's, well, efficient and can be summoned without cost?Moosenstein This is my point. I thought it would be obvious but you missed my point. Yet, the point you're trying to make is completely inaccurate, and not well thought out if at all. An instant monster, at any point of the game to be a large beater for its size? Sounds a lot more like Jain. I really hate having to break down my explanation even more for you to understand my point. I know it isn't clear. When someone makes a thread entitled "Lightsworn" I think of the suggestions everyone has given. When someone posts a thread entitled "Lightsworn ________" I think of whatever ______ is. And don't believe the deck is meant for anything other than fun, because it seems there is only one build for lightsworns with a very limited amount of variation that people use in tournament play. When I think beatdown, I think of strong monsters. Regardless of the risk of summoning them or anything like that. And I find Gragonith to be more beat down than Jain. And when I said you are thinking ahead. I meant beatdown decks don't usually require a lot of strategy. Besides the general lightsworn build up, any beatdown deck doesn't need build up. I've always seen lightsworn as autopilot anyway, this seems the easiest deck to beat down with because of that.
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:22 am
and here i was, thinking i could stay out of this >.<
@Moosenstein: Gragonith is a decent card and all, but why Tribute for it when you can summon Celestia instead and instantly wipe out 2 cards? can Gragonith do that? no. besides, Celestia mills 4 cards while Gragonith only mills 3.
on a final note, Honest makes any LS deck beatstick.
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:19 am
Moosenstein Freed the Benevolent I often considered that to be a good thing. Is it not anymore?Moosenstein I am thinking of the immediate situation, where someone would need power. And you're saying Gragonith would provide that? Gragonith being a tribute-required monster, and attack gain needing the monster count in Graveyard to be dependable as a beater exceeding that of a Monarch, it's hardly an on-the-spot play. Clearly our definitions of "immediate" are far and wide between.Moosenstein Disregarding everything else on the field besides the player's monsters. In which case, I still wouldn't play Gragonith. Moosenstein Gragonith will always have monstrous attack if the duel has gone on for a couple turns(in a competent lightsworn deck) and has piercing. "For a couple turns" doesn't sound very "immediate" to me.Moosenstein In such a situation, there is nothing simpler and easier to beat down with, than gragonith. How about a monster that's, well, efficient and can be summoned without cost?Moosenstein This is my point. I thought it would be obvious but you missed my point. Yet, the point you're trying to make is completely inaccurate, and not well thought out if at all. An instant monster, at any point of the game to be a large beater for its size? Sounds a lot more like Jain. I really hate having to break down my explanation even more for you to understand my point. I know it isn't clear. When someone makes a thread entitled "Lightsworn" I think of the suggestions everyone has given. When someone posts a thread entitled "Lightsworn ________" I think of whatever ______ is. And don't believe the deck is meant for anything other than fun, because it seems there is only one build for lightsworns with a very limited amount of variation that people use in tournament play. When I think beatdown, I think of strong monsters. Regardless of the risk of summoning them or anything like that. And I find Gragonith to be more beat down than Jain. And when I said you are thinking ahead. I meant beatdown decks don't usually require a lot of strategy. Besides the general lightsworn build up, any beatdown deck doesn't need build up. I've always seen lightsworn as autopilot anyway, this seems the easiest deck to beat down with because of that. Lightsworn is already the primary beat down deck. Gargonith you don't use in a beatdown deck regardless of how much of a beater it looks like. That's very bad yugioh. Gargonith will never win games and more so fail the deck.
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:24 am
RandallTheGreenGeek and here i was, thinking i could stay out of this >.<
@Moosenstein: Gragonith is a decent card and all, but why Tribute for it when you can summon Celestia instead and instantly wipe out 2 cards? can Gragonith do that? no. besides, Celestia mills 4 cards while Gragonith only mills 3.
on a final note, Honest makes any LS deck beatstick. no Gragonith only mills if another lightsworn does first and it is only 2 cards and if any of them are lightsworns then the player gets to draw a card for evry lightsworn discarded by his effect trust someone who plays him alot ^_^
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:36 am
Super Saiyan Spyron RandallTheGreenGeek and here i was, thinking i could stay out of this >.<
@Moosenstein: Gragonith is a decent card and all, but why Tribute for it when you can summon Celestia instead and instantly wipe out 2 cards? can Gragonith do that? no. besides, Celestia mills 4 cards while Gragonith only mills 3.
on a final note, Honest makes any LS deck beatstick. no Gragonith only mills if another lightsworn does first and it is only 2 cards and if any of them are lightsworns then the player gets to draw a card for evry lightsworn discarded by his effect trust someone who plays him alot ^_^ that's garoth you idiot. and you don't play 3 of him, 2 at most.
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:51 am
Aya_Aki_kun Super Saiyan Spyron RandallTheGreenGeek and here i was, thinking i could stay out of this >.<
@Moosenstein: Gragonith is a decent card and all, but why Tribute for it when you can summon Celestia instead and instantly wipe out 2 cards? can Gragonith do that? no. besides, Celestia mills 4 cards while Gragonith only mills 3.
on a final note, Honest makes any LS deck beatstick. no Gragonith only mills if another lightsworn does first and it is only 2 cards and if any of them are lightsworns then the player gets to draw a card for evry lightsworn discarded by his effect trust someone who plays him alot ^_^ that's garoth you idiot. and you don't play 3 of him, 2 at most. let me check my deck but i think I now run 2 of him
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:23 am
Yes Spyron, you've managed to be oblivious to good advice and kept the list as crap.
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Francine These Chocodiles
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:26 am
Freed the Benevolent Yes Spyron, you've managed to be oblivious to good advice and kept the list as crap. trust me i have been busy to change the list to my new deck when I get the chance i will ok
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 7:26 am
I no longer have this deck so no one else give me sugestions ok but i will post a new deck soon it will be glad. beast
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