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 Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:32 pm
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:01 pm
shrab armycat jockamoe RandallTheGreenGeek honestly guys, don't bother trying to reason with Zeig. like trying to milk a dead cow - pointless. You can get milk out of a dead cow for 24 hours. XD made me lol same xD and as Penut would say[Jeff Dunham].. ZEErow!! over his head xD
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:48 pm
Freed the Benevolent This could be a lot better... let me break it down for you. Notes will be in red. kurousagi35 Monsters: Amazoness Tiger - This card is really good. However, just because you can only have one on the field at a time doesn't mean you only play one in the deck. What if the monster is destroyed? You don't get another Amazoness Tiger to take its place. By running two, it doesn't interfere so badly to clutter the hand, but it does give you the support of having another search target for Giant Rat, and a replacement if the first Amazoness Tiger dies. Definitely a card you want at two.Amazoness Paladin x2 - May consider a third.Amazoness Chain Master - This one has what's probably the best control element of the arch-type. Unfortunately, the possibilities are extremely limited. What you see a lot of nowadays in the game are a bit of arch-types with monsters that support its own arch-type, and not much else. The monsters that do support multitudes of decks - Dark Armed Dragon, Gorz the Emissary of Darkness, Tuner monsters in general - are never really cards you're going to have access to before your opponent declares the attack to begin with. And let's face it; are you ever going to be able to summon that Dark Armed Dragon playing this deck?Amazoness Blowpiper - Not the best selection. Its effect is extremely limited as a Standby Phase occurrence, which eliminates the possibility of immediate activation that would've made it better. Even so, a 500 Attack Point decrease is a very small number, and in a game that would never make it matter when Honest or Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow are involved. There are much better cards that can get you better results than this monster - Honest(obviously not in this deck), Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow(again, obviously not in this deck), Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind, Shrink, and even Rush Recklessly could all out-beat this monster with the same or similar effect. Last but not least, its Attack and Defense Points aren't capable enough to keep this monster in battle. Don't run this card at all.Amazoness Fighter - This monster's a built-in Waboku, and that matters a lot when your opponent can swarm a field in no time. It's invaluable, and since it has the additional benefit as a Giant Rat/Warrior Lady of the Wasteland selection, I'd run this bad girl at 3.Amazoness Swords Woman - It's like what I said before about Amazoness Fighter, but better. Instead, the damage is inflicted to your opponent. It's a big middle finger to Honest and Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow. Play her at 3.Amazon Archer - Amazon Archer may be a part of the Amazoness arch-type, but like Blowpiper, this one is not worth playing. The reason for that is because while every Amazoness woman is made for aggro, summoning one after another for continuing power increase, this one is little burn, and you're taking away from the aggro strategic to inflict the burn. Stay focused on the deck's one strategy - One Amazoness after another, turn the field into sturdy beat-sticks, and beat up the opponent come your Battle Phase.Giant Rat x3 Warrior Lady of The Wasteland Marauding Captain - This guy's a tough one. He's good, but really only at 3, and more-so when Synchro monsters are involved. I'd say take him out, since he blocks the field from furthering the Amazoness presence.Turbo Booster - It's really not something to consider. It's nice that the benefit from this card is, say, the monster you battled with was your Amazoness Fighter/Swords Woman. Then, you can blow up a monster since you lost your own, and you don't even take Battle Damage from it. Although, you can just use cards like Fissure and Smashing Ground, and destroy the monster before yours battles with it. That way, instead of taking no damage and losing a monster, your monster hits the opponent's Life Points directly. Another example of "this would be good, but there are better cards somewhere".Aussa The Earth Charmer - Not worth it. Why? Because the effect takes time. The fastest way you'll pull a flip is when your opponent attacks it. Chances of it surviving that attack are, quite frankly, zero. This monster is dead, and your opponent gets their monster back before you know it.Familiar Possessed - Aussa - An okay beat-stick, except like Marauding Captain, takes up space that should be your Amazoness aggro. Furthermore, to have this monster treated for its effect, you have to sacrifice two of your monsters to do it. The effect isn't great to begin with. I'd get rid of this one, too.Fortune Lady EarthMakes no sense in the deck with no synergy from other Fortune Ladies. To summon, you'll have to sacrifice an Amazoness, which I repeatedly say breaks the deck's great synergy. The effect isn't great at all, and limited just as Amazoness Blowpiper is.Spells: Gaia Power - Not great. A lot of Spell and Trap support by now should be more responsive, and this is just taking up room for what your monster line-up already does. You should use other cards, like Book of Moon and Enemy Controller, to your advantage.Terraforming - No Field Spell, no Terraforming.Field Barrier - No Field Spell, then no Field Barrier. Regardless, if you play a Field Spell, then you should be playing duplicates. Simply replace it when it dies, instead of taking up room with this.Reinforcement of The Army The Warrior Returning Alive Axe of Despair x2 - Not the best choice. United We Stand beats it in immediate attack increase, and also offers nothing additionally beneficial. Fighting Spirit would be amazing in Amazoness. It's pretty much telling your opponent "My Amazoness Swords Woman doesn't die, either".Double Summon - Waste of space, to be honest. A single Normal Summon per turn is more than enough, especially with more of that proper support that any deck should have - responsive.Amazoness Spellcaster - Situational, and when considering Honest or Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow, ineffective. If you had played a Fissure instead, there'd be no risk at all.Scapegoat - This card only takes up the space that your Amazoness value, and there's no Synchro benefit.Lightning Vortex - This is a personal call. You can either main or side deck one of these on preference. I normally like to keep it sided, but if you like it, run it.Heavy Storm Swords of Revealing Light Traps: Sakuretsu Armor - There's sooooooooo much better. Trap Hole is better at this point. Nonetheless, you want to stay more to what you can respond with earlier, like Bottomless Trap Hole. There are also better versions of this that can make more use, like Dimensional Prison and Mirror Force.Amazoness Archers - If it's Lightsworn, then all of the monsters will already be attacking, and Honest doesn't care about a 500 Attack decrease. Better off with more monster removal.Negate Attack - There are so many cards that do the same thing, but better. Most notable ones - Waboku and Threatening Roar - find better use just because they can be used before the Battle Phase begins. If your opponent plays a Heavy Storm, you can just chain to it and not worry about losing. If they bomb on a Negate Attack, then you're out of luck.Magic Drain - Negation is at an all-time low, now that Solemn Judgment is limited to one. Seriously, Solemn Judgment was the best, and it shows now because everything that counters has become lackluster, with the exception of Gladiator Beast War Chariot and soon-to-be Saber Hole. Magic Drain is one of the more exceptional Counter Traps, as the result can be a one-for-one, or depending on the Spell activated, a -1 at best. Still, giving your opponent the availability to stop the card can ultimately shut down its uses, and it remains to be the better tactic to play responsive.Dark Bribe - This card, since September, has been looked at as the next Solemn Judgment. However, the opportunities it gives you is outweighed by the opportunities it gives your opponent for the card's draw 1 effect. Ultimately, it only continues your opponent's draw, and gives them another arsenal to replace the one you stopped.Spiritual Earth Art - Kurogane - I could see use in this, but for now, Call of the Haunted is probably better.Dramatic Rescue - Not worth it, really. The major targeting effects now are Enemy Controller and Book of Moon, and Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind. Being that the deck should be played consistently with either doubles or triples of the majority of the monster lineup, there's no downfall in being able to set a Giant Rat and get another Amazoness. The space can be used for more beneficial use.Kunai With Chain - Another card example that just has a counterpart being all-around better. Book of Moon and Enemy Controller.Michizure - There are better ways to destroy your opponent's monster, and many ways you can destroy it without having to sacrifice your own.Bottomless Trap Hole - This should be played at the maximum amount of 2. It's just too good.I'll be back to edit this post, I'll put up a suggested build example for you. Every card in this deck has proven itself useful so like I said in my opening statement I ain't changing it, and this is NOT an Amazoness deck it is and Earth deck it just started out as an Amazoness deck, but let's see what you put together anyway
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:05 pm
So, wait. Let me understand this clearly.
When I call your deck garbage, you tell me to provide reasoning. When someone gives you legitimate pointers, you remain ignorant and the best reasoning you have is "this deck has proven itself"? Against what, baby food?
Your deck is still garbage.
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:27 pm
imasexxigirl So, wait. Let me understand this clearly. When I call your deck garbage, you tell me to provide reasoning. When someone gives you legitimate pointers, you remain ignorant and the best reasoning you have is "this deck has proven itself"? Against what, baby food? Your deck is still garbage. well you can call it what you want.. you havent used it, you havent played agenced it. you have no rights to call it trash you dont know how it wa made to run... and yesh some cards are not good.. but look past meka and look at posabillty of the deck. so keep calling decks trash and sit on your high seat when you don`t even know the stile of the duelst using it or what thay plan on doing while playing with the deck. so unless you know the person or are the person nobody has the say to change a deck or call a deck trash becouse its not meka and dose not contain a P.spreder or some cards that give some peopel with no skills the win. so please think about.. all theas things before you desiced to be a little kid about a deck not being thay way you want it or seen it to be made or used .. its his deck lut it be his deck.. the cards the sleaves the box.. he can pick not you. and just becouse this is the internet it means no bounds to people that are given the chance to act big when in real terms thay are week. so do understand that no mater how meny time you call a deck trash.. your yet to suject a Deck list and show us the ''not trash'' way to make this deck.. and wika the deck dose not count. I even think ''why am Im tell you these things'' .. your just going to complain and bark back, and I probluy bet your not even going to read this compleat post eather and if you do .. your just going to pick out the parts you dont like. its a shame that people act what thay are not when people cant see them or dont know them.. .well your just like this kids deck.. its not going to change for nobody.
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:25 am
purple-blade-master imasexxigirl So, wait. Let me understand this clearly. When I call your deck garbage, you tell me to provide reasoning. When someone gives you legitimate pointers, you remain ignorant and the best reasoning you have is "this deck has proven itself"? Against what, baby food? Your deck is still garbage. well you can call it what you want.. you havent used it, you havent played agenced it. you have no rights to call it trash you dont know how it wa made to run... and yesh some cards are not good.. but look past meka and look at posabillty of the deck. so keep calling decks trash and sit on your high seat when you don`t even know the stile of the duelst using it or what thay plan on doing while playing with the deck. so unless you know the person or are the person nobody has the say to change a deck or call a deck trash becouse its not meka and dose not contain a P.spreder or some cards that give some peopel with no skills the win. so please think about.. all theas things before you desiced to be a little kid about a deck not being thay way you want it or seen it to be made or used .. its his deck lut it be his deck.. the cards the sleaves the box.. he can pick not you. and just becouse this is the internet it means no bounds to people that are given the chance to act big when in real terms thay are week. so do understand that no mater how meny time you call a deck trash.. your yet to suject a Deck list and show us the ''not trash'' way to make this deck.. and wika the deck dose not count. I even think ''why am Im tell you these things'' .. your just going to complain and bark back, and I probluy bet your not even going to read this compleat post eather and if you do .. your just going to pick out the parts you dont like. its a shame that people act what thay are not when people cant see them or dont know them.. .well your just like this kids deck.. its not going to change for nobody. Finally someone who gets it
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:10 am
though i hate to admit it, Zeig has a point. Freed the Benevolent gave you some great help, yet you dismissed it. did you even read it at all? apparently not. i hope you never take that "deck" to tournaments; won't last 5 seconds against anything.
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:44 am
Naruto The Shinigami imasexxigirl kurousagi35 Say what you will I ain't changing it... Have fun playing in the trash. why must you call evrything crap or trash Because she thinks calling everyones decks but hers trash will make her "cool" amongst the possible trolls in the guild(if any) and try to make her deck(if she even uses one) seem better, that or it could be jsut a simple self esteem issue or lack of confidence in herself. Either way you go about it she does this to try and benefit herself. For all any of us know her deck could be full of trash thats not even worth taking out, in a manner of speaking of course.
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:55 am
You know what my big problem is, as they say Kurosagi ignored the best advice offered, and most of the arguments toward Jazzy are half illiterate and flawed.
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:27 pm
imasexxigirl kurousagi35 Say what you will I ain't changing it... Have fun playing in the trash. this
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:29 pm
Aurothan Darkheart Naruto The Shinigami imasexxigirl kurousagi35 Say what you will I ain't changing it... Have fun playing in the trash. why must you call evrything crap or trash Because she thinks calling everyones decks but hers trash will make her "cool" amongst the possible trolls in the guild(if any) and try to make her deck(if she even uses one) seem better, that or it could be jsut a simple self esteem issue or lack of confidence in herself. Either way you go about it she does this to try and benefit herself. For all any of us know her deck could be full of trash thats not even worth taking out, in a manner of speaking of course. No they really are good. You're just one of the Naive idiots who believes anything works.
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:36 pm
imasexxigirl Naruto The Shinigami Why must you call evrything crap or trash Because I can, and that's what 90% of this guild makes. If you don't like how the guild operates then submit a complaint or leave. Now I suggest that since the poster of this decklist has stated that they will not be taking any suggestions that this thread be locked and we all move on with our lives.
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:09 pm
RandallTheGreenGeek though i hate to admit it, Zeig has a point. Freed the Benevolent gave you some great help, yet you dismissed it. did you even read it at all? apparently not. i hope you never take that "deck" to tournaments; won't last 5 seconds against anything. I never said it wasn't good advice, and it was but the deck works the way that I want it to just the way it is, and even if I wanted to change it, I couldn't I have to work with what I have.
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:18 pm
lol another arguement i see a pattern in this guild its kinda sad. oh well
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:03 am
kurousagi35 RandallTheGreenGeek though i hate to admit it, Zeig has a point. Freed the Benevolent gave you some great help, yet you dismissed it. did you even read it at all? apparently not. i hope you never take that "deck" to tournaments; won't last 5 seconds against anything. I never said it wasn't good advice, and it was but the deck works the way that I want it to just the way it is, and even if I wanted to change it, I couldn't I have to work with what I have. Then don't play this game.
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