does anyone use their real voices anymore

[lordofthecows]

Yeah, autotune is retarded. It can be used to add a specific sound to your voice (IE Life After Love by Cher), but using it because you can't hold a pitch is quite poser-ish.  

[StudioGilliam]

A B Up Start

i think its only acceptable in electronic music genres.

I disagree. Metal and Pop has shown that, although not to everyone's tastes - doing something different with the vocals can make for something interesting, unique and fresh.  

[Old Fashion Cliche]

StudioGilliam

A B Up Start

i think its only acceptable in electronic music genres.

I disagree. Metal and Pop has shown that, although not to everyone's tastes - doing something different with the vocals can make for something interesting, unique and fresh.

but more and more there are "musicians" that actually lack any sort of musical ability  

[StudioGilliam]

On This Night

StudioGilliam

A B Up Start

i think its only acceptable in electronic music genres.

I disagree. Metal and Pop has shown that, although not to everyone's tastes - doing something different with the vocals can make for something interesting, unique and fresh.

but more and more there are "musicians" that actually lack any sort of musical ability

That's not really very specific.

In the pop and R'n'B genre, yes. But then, those genres are only there to make money on telling us what Simon Cowel thinks we should listen to.

And while in my opinion, Metal has seen better days (Thanks, Emo/Screamo/Scene kids), there are still bands making it happen.

Alternative and underground music scenes do still have talent, also.  

[StudioGilliam]

Also, just because an artist has altered they're voice in some way, it doesn't mean they've no talent.

But it's all down to opinion and tastes, really.  

[StudioGilliam]

lordofthecows

Yeah, autotune is retarded. It can be used to add a specific sound to your voice (IE Life After Love by Cher), but using it because you can't hold a pitch is quite poser-ish.

I'll agree with that. It's actually used a hell of a lot in Pop music - not in the way Cher used it - but to disguise poor vocal performances.  

[A B Up Start]

StudioGilliam

lordofthecows

Yeah, autotune is retarded. It can be used to add a specific sound to your voice (IE Life After Love by Cher), but using it because you can't hold a pitch is quite poser-ish.

I'll agree with that. It's actually used a hell of a lot in Pop music - not in the way Cher used it - but to disguise poor vocal performances.

point of this whole thread. i saw this never shout never wannabe on myspace and i liked this one song, but the vocals were so processed you had no clue what his real voice sounded like  

[StudioGilliam]

A B Up Start

StudioGilliam

lordofthecows

Yeah, autotune is retarded. It can be used to add a specific sound to your voice (IE Life After Love by Cher), but using it because you can't hold a pitch is quite poser-ish.

I'll agree with that. It's actually used a hell of a lot in Pop music - not in the way Cher used it - but to disguise poor vocal performances.

point of this whole thread. i saw this never shout never wannabe on myspace and i liked this one song, but the vocals were so processed you had no clue what his real voice sounded like

Oh, Jebus. I'm sorry. I thought you were originally talking about vocal effects to make the sounds unique, rather than covering up problems.

Sorry, dude - I got the wrong end of the stick.

Well, in that case, yeah. It does suck muchly. Some people want to be singers so badly that they don't want to spend the time and money on actually learning to sing.

Of course, that means they're screwed when they play live, unless they're good at lip syncing -which I'm completely against. I mean, you may as well buy the album instead.  

[lordofthecows]

StudioGilliam

A B Up Start

StudioGilliam

lordofthecows

Yeah, autotune is retarded. It can be used to add a specific sound to your voice (IE Life After Love by Cher), but using it because you can't hold a pitch is quite poser-ish.

I'll agree with that. It's actually used a hell of a lot in Pop music - not in the way Cher used it - but to disguise poor vocal performances.

point of this whole thread. i saw this never shout never wannabe on myspace and i liked this one song, but the vocals were so processed you had no clue what his real voice sounded like

Oh, Jebus. I'm sorry. I thought you were originally talking about vocal effects to make the sounds unique, rather than covering up problems.

Sorry, dude - I got the wrong end of the stick.

Well, in that case, yeah. It does suck muchly. Some people want to be singers so badly that they don't want to spend the time and money on actually learning to sing.

Of course, that means they're screwed when they play live, unless they're good at lip syncing -which I'm completely against. I mean, you may as well buy the album instead.

And most newer bands do suck live, for that reason. Mostly all these knew "punk" bands, almost all of them sound terrible live. I think they sound terrible on the track anyway, but that's for different reasons. 3nodding
The last sentence was just my opinion, not to offend anyone that really does like that music.  

[StudioGilliam]

lordofthecows

StudioGilliam

A B Up Start

StudioGilliam

lordofthecows

Yeah, autotune is retarded. It can be used to add a specific sound to your voice (IE Life After Love by Cher), but using it because you can't hold a pitch is quite poser-ish.

I'll agree with that. It's actually used a hell of a lot in Pop music - not in the way Cher used it - but to disguise poor vocal performances.

point of this whole thread. i saw this never shout never wannabe on myspace and i liked this one song, but the vocals were so processed you had no clue what his real voice sounded like

Oh, Jebus. I'm sorry. I thought you were originally talking about vocal effects to make the sounds unique, rather than covering up problems.

Sorry, dude - I got the wrong end of the stick.

Well, in that case, yeah. It does suck muchly. Some people want to be singers so badly that they don't want to spend the time and money on actually learning to sing.

Of course, that means they're screwed when they play live, unless they're good at lip syncing -which I'm completely against. I mean, you may as well buy the album instead.

And most newer bands do suck live, for that reason. Mostly all these knew "punk" bands, almost all of them sound terrible live. I think they sound terrible on the track anyway, but that's for different reasons. 3nodding
The last sentence was just my opinion, not to offend anyone that really does like that music.

Yeah, punk bands... When I was in school, a friend said to me that he was starting a punk band and wanted to find someone who had an instrument but didn't know how to play it.

He was saying that to play in a punk band, you have to be completely unable to play anything, which I thought was very funny. And true in a lot of cases!  

[Old Fashion Cliche]

le gasp. i love the little bit thats left of the punk genre.  

[lordofthecows]

I miss real punk.  

[xXHopless RomanceXx]

A B Up Start

i think its only acceptable in electronic music genres.

Agreed. Owl City at least does it well. Artists like Ke$ha need to just go away. If you have to use auto-tune to sound good, then you shouldn't be in the music business.

There are plenty of artists that do well without auto-tune. Mika, is a good example of that. He was trained to sing opera, so he never needs auto tune to hit those signature high-notes of his.  

[Arc En Licorne]

i hate it when people alter their voices to sound better. i really liked taylor swift but then i heard her sing live and i was like oh well that sounds different!! its really annoying, but idk if its only some times but i heard amy lee from evanescence sing live once and she sounded like the cd so she might not.  

[alexandria rose thorn]

Some times people use there real voices. I do.