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 Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:37 pm
axean Jevan R. H. Divinitive Shakes head. axean, you just called a Ritual Monster broken. It's a Ritual Monster, it relies on Fairy-type monsters in your hand to work, how is that broken? I REALLY need to educate this guild once my exams are over! Okay, maybe not broken, but powerful enough to stop most of the current meta is still pretty strong. Really though it just serves as a spine to a basic fairy deck. I can't imagine building just around him. He's more like counter fairy's new friend.
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:41 pm
armycat jockamoe axean Jevan R. H. Divinitive Shakes head. axean, you just called a Ritual Monster broken. It's a Ritual Monster, it relies on Fairy-type monsters in your hand to work, how is that broken? I REALLY need to educate this guild once my exams are over! Okay, maybe not broken, but powerful enough to stop most of the current meta is still pretty strong. Really though it just serves as a spine to a basic fairy deck. I can't imagine building just around him. He's more like counter fairy's new friend. I didn't say you should build a deck around him. A deck like that wouldn't flow to well. I was thinking more along the lines of Counter Fairies to begin with anyway.
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:24 pm
axean armycat jockamoe axean Jevan R. H. Divinitive Shakes head. axean, you just called a Ritual Monster broken. It's a Ritual Monster, it relies on Fairy-type monsters in your hand to work, how is that broken? I REALLY need to educate this guild once my exams are over! Okay, maybe not broken, but powerful enough to stop most of the current meta is still pretty strong. Really though it just serves as a spine to a basic fairy deck. I can't imagine building just around him. He's more like counter fairy's new friend. I didn't say you should build a deck around him. A deck like that wouldn't flow to well. I was thinking more along the lines of Counter Fairies to begin with anyway. Still he's kind of lackluster considering the investment.
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:34 pm
it's a RITUAL monster. regardless of how good its effect is, beacause of the currect meta, i seriously doubt anyone will actually USE it.
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:44 pm
RandallTheGreenGeek it's a RITUAL monster. regardless of how good its effect is, beacause of the currect meta, i seriously doubt anyone will actually USE it. People said something similiar about lightsworns, oh wait, they are the current meta.
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:48 pm
axean RandallTheGreenGeek it's a RITUAL monster. regardless of how good its effect is, beacause of the currect meta, i seriously doubt anyone will actually USE it. People said something similiar about lightsworns, oh wait, they are the current meta. i meant about Perfect Herald being a ritual monster. because of that, it probably wont see much (if any) play, even in lightsworns (which are powerful enough already)
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:51 pm
RandallTheGreenGeek axean RandallTheGreenGeek it's a RITUAL monster. regardless of how good its effect is, beacause of the currect meta, i seriously doubt anyone will actually USE it. People said something similiar about lightsworns, oh wait, they are the current meta. i meant about Perfect Herald being a ritual monster. because of that, it probably wont see much (if any) play, even in lightsworns (which are powerful enough already) Why would it be in a lightsworn deck? this thing is best suited for Fairy and Counter Fairy decks.
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:02 pm
Get this straight, so you can understand.
1. It's a Ritual Monster. To cover the cost, you'll need to have the monster, the Ritual Spell, and the correct monster requirements to go through for it - something that will more or less take more than a few turns to do, while the current meta can make their game setup in a notably less amount of time. And regardless of how good its effect is, to have a substantial amount required for the effect's cost, you'll also be paying the same for its summon - with Fairy-type. So to start the game with it, you've already burned through Fairy-types needed for the effect to get Perfect Herald onto the field.
2. Its stats. Guaranteed anything Lv5 or higher in this format is something that can and will crush the card. Unless of course, you played a high amount of monster removal to continually protect your Herald, in which case you have no room to spare for your hand of Fairy-type monsters.
3. Its cost. You may think that an abundance of Fairy-types is all it takes, and yet they either have it or they don't. If they don't, then it's easily removable. If they do, then they don't have much else. It's very easy to bait and burn out an opponent's card advantage, in their hand or on their field.
All-in-all, your thoughts of it being a meta breaker is just a huge joke.
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:05 pm
i have to agree with the lady. it may look fantastic in theory, but its summoning requirements, the management of the cost, and the lackluster ATK outweigh its overall usefulness and playability
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:06 pm
imasexxigirl Get this straight, so you can understand. 1. It's a Ritual Monster. To cover the cost, you'll need to have the monster, the Ritual Spell, and the correct monster requirements to go through for it - something that will more or less take more than a few turns to do, while the current meta can make their game setup in a notably less amount of time. And regardless of how good its effect is, to have a substantial amount required for the effect's cost, you'll also be paying the same for its summon - with Fairy-type. So to start the game with it, you've already burned through Fairy-types needed for the effect to get Perfect Herald onto the field. 2. Its stats. Guaranteed anything Lv5 or higher in this format is something that can and will crush the card. Unless of course, you played a high amount of monster removal to continually protect your Herald, in which case you have no room to spare for your hand of Fairy-type monsters. 3. Its cost. You may think that an abundance of Fairy-types is all it takes, and yet they either have it or they don't. If they don't, then it's easily removable. If they do, then they don't have much else. It's very easy to bait and burn out an opponent's card advantage, in their hand or on their field. All-in-all, your thoughts of it being a meta breaker is just a huge joke. It's Stat's, once again I have yet to see a monster that can easily run over 2800 Defense, other than JD, without a power boost this Meta. Your Close Minded of the Possibilities this card gives to Fairy Decks. Sure You use up a Minimum of Three Cards to summon it, But It's Walling Capabilities and Effect more than Make up for it. And I never said it was meta Breaker, I said it will give the Meta a Tough Time.
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:10 pm
if you want a powerful Fairy-type with kick-a** effects, Archlord Kristya is the much better choice; much easier to summon, brings back a Fairy when summoned thru its effect (Honest being the best pick), locks down Special Summons, and if it would be destroyed and sent to the grave, it returns to the top of the Deck instead for another round of fun =3
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:11 pm
RandallTheGreenGeek if you want a powerful Fairy-type with kick-a** effects, Archlord Kristya is the much better choice; much easier to summon, brings back a Fairy when summoned thru its effect (Honest being the best pick), locks down Special Summons, and can if it would be destroyed, it returns to the top of the Deck instead for another round of fun =3 Yes, Kristya Is a pain in the a**.
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:57 pm
axean It's Stat's, once again I have yet to see a monster that can easily run over 2800 Defense without a power boost this Meta. Remaining in defense doesn't make it any more powerful than when in attack, just like any other monster. An easy monster to kill it? Red Dragon Archfiend. axean Your Close Minded of the Possibilities this card gives to Fairy Decks. Sure You use up a Minimum of Three Cards to summon it, But It's Walling Capabilities and Effect more than Make up for it. No, I'm quite literal when it comes to this card's abilities. You offer it too much praise, as both the summoning condition and effect burn away your cards. Had it been a Synchro, requiring less to summon, then it'd have been more notable. Otherwise, by the time it arrives on the field, you've limited what source you have to fully use its ability. axean And I never said it was meta Breaker, I said it will give the Meta a Tough Time. No, it won't.
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:43 am
imasexxigirl axean It's Stat's, once again I have yet to see a monster that can easily run over 2800 Defense without a power boost this Meta. Remaining in defense doesn't make it any more powerful than when in attack, just like any other monster. An easy monster to kill it? Red Dragon Archfiend. axean Your Close Minded of the Possibilities this card gives to Fairy Decks. Sure You use up a Minimum of Three Cards to summon it, But It's Walling Capabilities and Effect more than Make up for it. No, I'm quite literal when it comes to this card's abilities. You offer it too much praise, as both the summoning condition and effect burn away your cards. Had it been a Synchro, requiring less to summon, then it'd have been more notable. Otherwise, by the time it arrives on the field, you've limited what source you have to fully use its ability. axean And I never said it was meta Breaker, I said it will give the Meta a Tough Time. No, it won't. How are you gonna get RDA out if all your monsters are constantly being destroyed by bigger fairies, and any attempt to bring out all the synchro material you need in one turn is thwarted by Herald's Effect? I think the only way to synchro for RDA is to use chaos sorceror and a level 2 tuner that can be normal summoned the same turn or plaguspreader (negating Plaguespreader is a waste of time, both with Royal Oppression and Perfect Herald) As you can see, you use up two great monsters to synchro summon one of the only synchros that can run over it. And if Kristya is on the field as well as Herald, you just failed trying to do that too. I completely Agree that by itself, it's not much to sneeze at, but because there are other powerful Fairies that can back it up, it makes to be a big threat. No one card can win Games By itself, even Judgement Dragon needs to have those four different Lightsworns in to Grave to bring it out. You automatically assuming that I'm praising Perfect Herald as the best card to be created is laughable. I'm sure when Lightsworns first came out, you said they were s**t, and now you probally view them as one of the best Archtypes out right now. Please, if your going to be a snob and ridicule others for your own sense of superiority, your better off becoming a hermit where you wont get the crap kicked out of you for saying the wrong thing to the wrong person. Your just using the internet as a way to protect yourself from danger as you mock and ridicule others. Your a pathetic person, looking at something and judging it before even trying to think of ways to use it. I'm sure your just a lonely soul with no real friends, and no way to know how to make any. I'm positive your attittude will prevent you from making friends you can trust, mataining any serious relationship, and will probally get you fired alot. I pity you, and as the old saying goes, never judge a book by it's cover, That means to take a chance and see how things work before casting it aside.
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:31 am
axean How are you gonna get RDA out if all your monsters are constantly being destroyed by bigger fairies, and any attempt to bring out all the synchro material you need in one turn is thwarted by Herald's Effect? I think the only way to synchro for RDA is to use chaos sorceror and a level 2 tuner that can be normal summoned the same turn or plaguspreader (negating Plaguespreader is a waste of time, both with Royal Oppression and Perfect Herald) In this, you're assuming you would have other, bigger Fairies, in which you're using them to gain a field instead of Herald's effect. You're given a hand limit, in which you make a field or keep Herald's effect in abundance. You can't have both, unless your opponent's a retard and gives you that extended time to get both. In that case, this would be when I let you burn what little hand you have left, and smack it with a Fissure. You're also assuming you'll have bigger Fairies to begin with, when logically the two Fairy you've been using to get Perfect Herald is Shining Angel or Nova Summoner, and Manju of the Ten Thousand Hands. Otherwise, you're slowing down the summon of a Ritual monster further, which makes it a lot more doubtful to show onto the field before the game would be done against a tier 1 to begin with. axean As you can see, you use up two great monsters to synchro summon one of the only synchros that can run over it. And if Kristya is on the field as well as Herald, you just failed trying to do that too. And again, your cards are being dedicated to the field as a way of locking the opponent. Where's your hand? axean I completely Agree that by itself, it's not much to sneeze at, but because there are other powerful Fairies that can back it up, it makes to be a big threat. "Other powerful Fairies that can back it up"... you mean the ones you need for the effect to be bountiful? If you're summoning more, Perfect Herald's use is short-lived. axean No one card can win Games Bye itself, even Judgement Dragon needs to have those four different Lightsworns in to Grave to bring it out. You automatically assuming that I'm praising Perfect Herald as the best card to be created is laughable. I don't ever recall saying the part where it was "the best card to be created". Best to look again, and to not copy me when arguing with me. I said you were praising it too highly, which you still are. axean I'm sure when Lightsworns first came out, you said they were s**t, and now you probally view them as one of the best Archtypes out right now. Please, if your going to be a snob and ridicule others for your own sense of superiority, your better off becoming a hermit where you wont get the crap kicked out of you for saying the wrong thing to the wrong person. No, actually, I went goo-goo over them for Judgment Dragon. Celestia I also liked, but back when I looked at them they were "Judgment Dragoon" and "Cherubim". Oh, really? You're going to kick the crap out of me because I'm saying the wrong thing? Oh noez, YUGIMONZ IS SERIOUS BIZNESS!!!!1! axean Your just using the internet as a way to protect yourself from danger as you mock and ridicule others. Your a pathetic person, looking at something and judging it before even trying to think of ways to use it. I'm sure your just a lonely soul with no real friends, and no way to know how to make any. I'm positive your attittude will prevent you from making friends you can trust, mataining any serious relationship, and will probally get you fired alot. I pity you, and as the old saying goes, never judge a book by it's cover, That means to take a chance and see how things work before casting it aside. What's this? I'm pathetic, yet you move onto ridiculing my life, instead of keeping onto the card? You keep assuming that I judge before even thinking of ways to use it, yet look at you, who simply reads that it negates any effect short of a Spell Speed 3, and deem it to be good while ignoring everything else about the card. Have you thought about the maintenance required to get it onto the field? How about the maintenance of getting larger beat-sticks to control your opponent's, while at the same time maintaining your monster-filled hand? How about the Monster:Spell/Trap ratio needed to properly balance the deck to control and use Perfect Herald, while maintain a field and protect it? You haven't, but this entire time, I have. So tell me, while you can't even argue your point-of-view of a card properly, does it make you feel better looking down at my maybe-possible life? Be what my life is, if I have no friends or an abundance, if I be poor or financially benefitted, if I be happy or suicidal, None of it matters. This is about a card. You talk about me when you don't know me - a classic attempt by any internet noob who can't argue over the fact, and that's when it gets truly pathetic. You want me to "stop using the internet to protect myself"? Ryan Sikhrangkur 168 Sterling Place Amityville, New York 11701 Do what you can.
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