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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:44 am
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Jishin Starlock 5) Be sure to consider deitary needs: Yep. My deity will definitely want Coke and Twinkies at ritual. wink Sorry, the typo was priceless.
That's awesome, Jishin!
I think mine prefer alchohol and pizza, but it is so hard getting them to agree on toppings! HAHA!
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:47 pm
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:19 am
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:08 am
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:22 am
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:29 pm
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:30 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:51 pm
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Sivirs TeaDidikai There is not enough money in the world to make me respect a twit that flounces around in a flowy skirt and says her Grandmother was a mysterious, exotic "gypsy". I'd get shot by family members if I did that. Gypsies aren't seen as particularly nice, unless you need to curse someone, in which case you run to the nearest gypsy going OMGZ0RZ I NEED SPELLZ HLP PLZ!1!1! Maybe that's what I should've done as a teenager to rebel. Paganism didn't faze my parents none, but going "MOM I'M GONNA GO JOIN A ROVING BAND OF GYPSIES" would've been cause for heart attacks. The unique joys of immigrating from eastern europe to the US as an only child. xd Pst... you do realize I am part Domari, right?
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:10 pm
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:38 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:35 am
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:23 pm
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Respectfully- no. Quote: You seem to be very good at steering threads away from the original intent by getting indignant over other people not getting that "gypsy" is a slur. I'm not saying that you don't have a valid point. I'm just saying that if you have a problem with someone else's erroneous word usage, take it up with that person over PM's.
Battle ignorance and bigotry where you find it. By the way- you are unaware of how many times I do correct people directly in PMs. Your assertion is disproportionate.
Quote: Or try putting the phrase "The word 'gypsy' is an ethnic slur" or something more your style in your sig, since you probably want to sound forceful. I will not. My battles are fought where they fall. I need not go looking for them.
Quote: Get angry and indignant as much as you want, you have a right to, but keep it away from unrelated discussion. There is an organic nature to discussion you seem to be ignoring.
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:58 pm
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:57 am
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Deoridhe Since more people are aware that "******" and "jap" are racial slurs, does that make it appropriate for the community to step up? Should only well publicised bigotry be combatted? Is a community that condones bigotry for the sake of getting along any kind of community worth having? Is it good manners to not express bigotry in a public place?
Hah. At the time Tea braught this whole thing up I had no clue what she was getting so uppity about with the slur thing, frankly. I'd agree it is relevant to the topic but I suppose had it been presented differently I would have seen that more clearly.
Pointing out bigotry is a real touchy thing. When doing so, the main thing is to do what I mentioned earlier: be polite about it. Otherwise, there's a good chance the person won't listen to you (and plus if you're an a** about it you become, in some respects, as bad as they are). Sometimes the sittuation might warrant differently, but its good to err on the cautious side.
As for which prejudices to combat... any of them. However, I'd suggest for Tea, as a fighter against use of the term "gypsy" that she instead present the education in the form of a question: "Did you know that word is an ethnic slur?" and my guess is that most people will say something like "No, I'll remember that; what's the polite term for those people?" While we may all be prejudiced in some way, sometimes through lack of knowledge or awareness we don't know it. I like to give people a break and the benefit of the doubt until they decidedly prove themselves to be asses. And even then I tend to forgive them for it. People make mistakes.
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:27 pm
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Starlock Hah. At the time Tea braught this whole thing up I had no clue what she was getting so uppity about with the slur thing, frankly. I'd agree it is relevant to the topic but I suppose had it been presented differently I would have seen that more clearly. The reason it was presented as such is because it extends to Lineaged Wicca as well as far as the Lineaged Wiccans are concerned.
Quote: Pointing out bigotry is a real touchy thing. When doing so, the main thing is to do what I mentioned earlier: be polite about it. Otherwise, there's a good chance the person won't listen to you As both the ethnicity of the Rroma and the nature of Wicca have shown, they don't. They justify their use. "Oh- well, that's not really what that word means- it's just a lifestyle" "I don't care about what Gardner had to say- The Lord and The Lady are the ones who make me Wiccan no matter what you tell me." Quote: (and plus if you're an a** about it you become, in some respects, as bad as they are). Foul. I will never be as bad as a member of Aryan Nation. It's that whole anti-racism thing I got goin'.
Quote: As for which prejudices to combat... any of them. However, I'd suggest for Tea, as a fighter against use of the term "gypsy" that she instead present the education in the form of a question: "Did you know that word is an ethnic slur?" and my guess is that most people will say something like "No, I'll remember that; what's the polite term for those people?" You would be amazed. I mean, in just another thread yourself you attempted to justify the use of the word after all. I don't think you're a bigot. I just think that people like being unaware because it means they don't have to change.
Quote: And even then I tend to forgive them for it. People make mistakes. My path doesn't ask such of me.
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