Help Me! Hellenic workshop

[maenad nuri]

Deoridhe

This is parallel, but the Incan Shaman (I don't know the inter-Incan name, he uses shaman likely for newage advertising reasons) I sometimes attend the lectures of actually opens up a sacred space with his Mesa and calls in the relevant spirits. I've found it does more for introducing people to "this is not generic neopaganism" than an hour of lecture can because it's interactive but clearly NOT generic, European-based neopaganism or Christian based newage.

I don't know if Hellenic paganism has that yet, but if I were to do an Asatru ceremony, I'd be likely to hallow and hold the space with people present so they can see this ain't your momma's paganism.

The problem with doing that, is that, well, it's a bit boring to a lot of people, it really just looks like the beginning of Catholic Mass.  

[Collowrath]

maenad nuri

Deoridhe

This is parallel, but the Incan Shaman (I don't know the inter-Incan name, he uses shaman likely for newage advertising reasons) I sometimes attend the lectures of actually opens up a sacred space with his Mesa and calls in the relevant spirits. I've found it does more for introducing people to "this is not generic neopaganism" than an hour of lecture can because it's interactive but clearly NOT generic, European-based neopaganism or Christian based newage.

I don't know if Hellenic paganism has that yet, but if I were to do an Asatru ceremony, I'd be likely to hallow and hold the space with people present so they can see this ain't your momma's paganism.

The problem with doing that, is that, well, it's a bit boring to a lot of people, it really just looks like the beginning of Catholic Mass.

You can use that to open it up. Such as - procession, so on, then: "Anything look familiar?" biggrin From there I guess you could explain the procedure and use it as a way to ease yourself into other topics that might be hard to broach otherwise.  

[TeaDidikai]

maenad nuri

The problem with doing that, is that, well, it's a bit boring to a lot of people, it really just looks like the beginning of Catholic Mass.

There is the classic: Start with a story or joke.

I think composing a description of what it would be like entering one of the Temples that Heron built would have me enthralled for hours.  

[maenad nuri]

Collowrath

maenad nuri

Deoridhe

This is parallel, but the Incan Shaman (I don't know the inter-Incan name, he uses shaman likely for newage advertising reasons) I sometimes attend the lectures of actually opens up a sacred space with his Mesa and calls in the relevant spirits. I've found it does more for introducing people to "this is not generic neopaganism" than an hour of lecture can because it's interactive but clearly NOT generic, European-based neopaganism or Christian based newage.

I don't know if Hellenic paganism has that yet, but if I were to do an Asatru ceremony, I'd be likely to hallow and hold the space with people present so they can see this ain't your momma's paganism.

The problem with doing that, is that, well, it's a bit boring to a lot of people, it really just looks like the beginning of Catholic Mass.

You can use that to open it up. Such as - procession, so on, then: "Anything look familiar?" biggrin From there I guess you could explain the procedure and use it as a way to ease yourself into other topics that might be hard to broach otherwise.

That's actually in my notes -- expound upon the similarities. This audience is a little ....yeah. They'd eat that up.  

[TeaDidikai]

How much of this is going to make it into PathWays?  

[maenad nuri]

TeaDidikai

How much of this is going to make it into PathWays?

Might. The pathways I off and on work on is far more personal in my own practice. This is meant to be an overview.  

[TeaDidikai]

maenad nuri

TeaDidikai

How much of this is going to make it into PathWays?

Might. The pathways I off and on work on is far more personal in my own practice. This is meant to be an overview.

Over views can make useful guidelines for explaining the source and feelings you develop in relation to your personal practice. ninja  

[maenad nuri]

New outline. Things can be moved around etc...
Outline for Hellenic Polythiesm Workshop
The Basics:
1. Introduction to the gods.
A. Creation Stories (Hesiod)
B. Synopsis of the Gods
C. Hard Polytheism and Soft Polytheism
D. Role of Mythology
2. Methodology
A. Reconstruction
B. General Neo-Pagan
C. Archetypal
3. Rituals and Festivals
A. Ritual and Prayer Format
1. Similarities to…
B. Festivals and Calendar
1. Adapting in place
2. Difference between Hellenic and Neopagan Wheel
3. Variances between city-states.
In Depth:
1. Concepts
A. Kharis
B. Miasma
C. City versus Folk
D. Public Versus Private
E. Orthopraxy and Orthodoxy
2. Ethics
 A. Maxims
3. Touchy Subjects
A. Patrons
B. Magic
C. Greek and Roman
4. Mystery Religions

For Further Reading
1. Popular Organizations
2. Reading list  

[TeaDidikai]

maenad nuri

A. Creation Stories (Hesiod)

Why Hesiod over...?

Quote:

A. Ritual and Prayer Format
1. Similarities to…

Differences from?

Quote:

2. Difference between Hellenic and Neopagan Wheel

Spring and winter, Persephone and Demeter?  

[maenad nuri]

TeaDidikai

maenad nuri

A. Creation Stories (Hesiod)

Why Hesiod over...?

Quote:

A. Ritual and Prayer Format
1. Similarities to…

Differences from?

Quote:

2. Difference between Hellenic and Neopagan Wheel

Spring and winter, Persephone and Demeter?

Hey, it's an outline, not my notes for a reason smile

Hesiod because it's the one I know the best. The Cosmic Egg confuses me, but it'll be mentioned.

And the Persephone/Winter thing will certainly be used.  

[maenad nuri]

Also, I'm getting up to three hours.

WHO WANTS TO LISTEN TO NURI TALK FOR THREE HOURS!  

[TeaDidikai]

maenad nuri

Also, I'm getting up to three hours.

WHO WANTS TO LISTEN TO NURI TALK FOR THREE HOURS!

Turn it into a podcast!  

[maenad nuri]

TeaDidikai

maenad nuri

Also, I'm getting up to three hours.

WHO WANTS TO LISTEN TO NURI TALK FOR THREE HOURS!

Turn it into a podcast!

And unleash my munchkin voice unto the world?  

[TeaDidikai]

maenad nuri

TeaDidikai

maenad nuri

Also, I'm getting up to three hours.

WHO WANTS TO LISTEN TO NURI TALK FOR THREE HOURS!

Turn it into a podcast!

And unleash my munchkin voice unto the world?

YUS!  

[patch99329]

maenad nuri

TeaDidikai

maenad nuri

Also, I'm getting up to three hours.

WHO WANTS TO LISTEN TO NURI TALK FOR THREE HOURS!

Turn it into a podcast!

And unleash my munchkin voice unto the world?

Yep ^_^