Pagan Ethics

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TeaDidikai

Deo>> Thanks.

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Alright, I'll play. But you're kinda vague.

Do you know which ethical theories we should be using?
Or should I assume its strictly Deontology? Since we're looking at Oaths and Oathbreaking and all.

Or are we trying to build our own Virtue Ethics base in this thread? That won't be easy to do well.

At least I know we're not trying to fix the ethics of everyone else that make life harder for us. Similar to feminist ethics but not exactly gonna happen without years of thought before we do anything.

Right now... I'm just looking for topics.

Oh.

Well we could always try looking at the morals of different types of pagans to look for a pattern.

Deontology is just following your duty or obligations. Deoridhe, if the shoe fits, go ahead and claim it!


As for topics...
When it's right to lead a coven/grove/crcle/etc.
When and why its right to leave one too.
Maybe discuss how to be a good (morally) solitary? Maybe.  

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TeaDidikai

Deo>> Thanks.

Movin on Up

Alright, I'll play. But you're kinda vague.

Do you know which ethical theories we should be using?
Or should I assume its strictly Deontology? Since we're looking at Oaths and Oathbreaking and all.

Or are we trying to build our own Virtue Ethics base in this thread? That won't be easy to do well.

At least I know we're not trying to fix the ethics of everyone else that make life harder for us. Similar to feminist ethics but not exactly gonna happen without years of thought before we do anything.

Right now... I'm just looking for topics.

Oh.

Well we could always try looking at the morals of different types of pagans to look for a pattern.

Deontology is just following your duty or obligations. Deoridhe, if the shoe fits, go ahead and claim it!


As for topics...
When it's right to lead a coven/grove/crcle/etc.
When and why its right to leave one too.
Maybe discuss how to be a good (morally) solitary? Maybe.

I was under the impression from my various Ethics classes that Deontology was the ethical framework by which certain ethical standards were treated as absolute.

As in they always apply without mind to subjective or contextual situations. For instance, it is a deontological ethic to regard rape as always wrong, no exceptions.  

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TeaDidikai

Deo>> Thanks.

Movin on Up

Alright, I'll play. But you're kinda vague.

Do you know which ethical theories we should be using?
Or should I assume its strictly Deontology? Since we're looking at Oaths and Oathbreaking and all.

Or are we trying to build our own Virtue Ethics base in this thread? That won't be easy to do well.

At least I know we're not trying to fix the ethics of everyone else that make life harder for us. Similar to feminist ethics but not exactly gonna happen without years of thought before we do anything.

Right now... I'm just looking for topics.

Oh.

Well we could always try looking at the morals of different types of pagans to look for a pattern.

Deontology is just following your duty or obligations. Deoridhe, if the shoe fits, go ahead and claim it!


As for topics...
When it's right to lead a coven/grove/crcle/etc.
When and why its right to leave one too.
Maybe discuss how to be a good (morally) solitary? Maybe.

I was under the impression from my various Ethics classes that Deontology was the ethical framework by which certain ethical standards were treated as absolute.

As in they always apply without mind to subjective or contextual situations. For instance, it is a deontological ethic to regard rape as always wrong, no exceptions.

Hey, we're obligated to not shoot one another.
But what about when that obligation to support your country comes up by the draft?
Which duty comes first? We're stuck and have to find some other way of thinking to address it.

There's more to it, but that's just general Deontology.  

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TeaDidikai

Deo>> Thanks.

Movin on Up

Alright, I'll play. But you're kinda vague.

Do you know which ethical theories we should be using?
Or should I assume its strictly Deontology? Since we're looking at Oaths and Oathbreaking and all.

Or are we trying to build our own Virtue Ethics base in this thread? That won't be easy to do well.

At least I know we're not trying to fix the ethics of everyone else that make life harder for us. Similar to feminist ethics but not exactly gonna happen without years of thought before we do anything.

Right now... I'm just looking for topics.

Oh.

Well we could always try looking at the morals of different types of pagans to look for a pattern.

Deontology is just following your duty or obligations. Deoridhe, if the shoe fits, go ahead and claim it!


As for topics...
When it's right to lead a coven/grove/crcle/etc.
When and why its right to leave one too.
Maybe discuss how to be a good (morally) solitary? Maybe.

I was under the impression from my various Ethics classes that Deontology was the ethical framework by which certain ethical standards were treated as absolute.

As in they always apply without mind to subjective or contextual situations. For instance, it is a deontological ethic to regard rape as always wrong, no exceptions.

Hey, we're obligated to not shoot one another.
But what about when that obligation to support your country comes up by the draft?
Which duty comes first? We're stuck and have to find some other way of thinking to address it.

There's more to it, but that's just general Deontology.

I really didn't see anything in my classes about obligations as being characteristic of deontological ethical systems. They can have obligations in them, but those systems are characterized by having ethical absolutes in them that are not dependent on context.

So the system in question would be deontological because it has ethical claims that apply no matter what context, not because it has obligations in it, if any.  

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TeaDidikai

Deo>> Thanks.

Movin on Up

Alright, I'll play. But you're kinda vague.

Do you know which ethical theories we should be using?
Or should I assume its strictly Deontology? Since we're looking at Oaths and Oathbreaking and all.

Or are we trying to build our own Virtue Ethics base in this thread? That won't be easy to do well.

At least I know we're not trying to fix the ethics of everyone else that make life harder for us. Similar to feminist ethics but not exactly gonna happen without years of thought before we do anything.

Right now... I'm just looking for topics.

Oh.

Well we could always try looking at the morals of different types of pagans to look for a pattern.

Deontology is just following your duty or obligations. Deoridhe, if the shoe fits, go ahead and claim it!


As for topics...
When it's right to lead a coven/grove/crcle/etc.
When and why its right to leave one too.
Maybe discuss how to be a good (morally) solitary? Maybe.

I was under the impression from my various Ethics classes that Deontology was the ethical framework by which certain ethical standards were treated as absolute.

As in they always apply without mind to subjective or contextual situations. For instance, it is a deontological ethic to regard rape as always wrong, no exceptions.

Hey, we're obligated to not shoot one another.
But what about when that obligation to support your country comes up by the draft?
Which duty comes first? We're stuck and have to find some other way of thinking to address it.

There's more to it, but that's just general Deontology.

I really didn't see anything in my classes about obligations as being characteristic of deontological ethical systems. They can have obligations in them, but those systems are characterized by having ethical absolutes in them that are not dependent on context.

So the system in question would be deontological because it has ethical claims that apply no matter what context, not because it has obligations in it, if any.

I think we're arguing the same point from both sides. Those 'moral absolutes' are the 'obligations' that I'm talking about now that I look at my textbook. Hence the Greek root word deon that means "duty" being a part of that word's root.

My bad for being unclear. Hopefully our little discussion makes things a bit clearer for folks reading!  

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Oh.

Well we could always try looking at the morals of different types of pagans to look for a pattern.

Deontology is just following your duty or obligations. Deoridhe, if the shoe fits, go ahead and claim it!


As for topics...
When it's right to lead a coven/grove/crcle/etc.
When and why its right to leave one too.
Maybe discuss how to be a good (morally) solitary? Maybe.

I was under the impression from my various Ethics classes that Deontology was the ethical framework by which certain ethical standards were treated as absolute.

As in they always apply without mind to subjective or contextual situations. For instance, it is a deontological ethic to regard rape as always wrong, no exceptions.

Hey, we're obligated to not shoot one another.
But what about when that obligation to support your country comes up by the draft?
Which duty comes first? We're stuck and have to find some other way of thinking to address it.

There's more to it, but that's just general Deontology.

I really didn't see anything in my classes about obligations as being characteristic of deontological ethical systems. They can have obligations in them, but those systems are characterized by having ethical absolutes in them that are not dependent on context.

So the system in question would be deontological because it has ethical claims that apply no matter what context, not because it has obligations in it, if any.

I think we're arguing the same point from both sides. Those 'moral absolutes' are the 'obligations' that I'm talking about now that I look at my textbook. Hence the Greek root word deon that means "duty" being a part of that word's root.

My bad for being unclear. Hopefully our little discussion makes things a bit clearer for folks reading!

Ah, so the word obligation is being used as a sort of indication that this moral value always applies?

Okay, I think we are just running in circles in different directions around the same point.  

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Would "relationships" include ethical issues relating to sexuality?

Other topics I'd be interested in would be social hierarchies, theft, violence, blood sacrifice, vengeance, and blasphemy.