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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:29 pm
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:08 am
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:34 pm
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![User Image](https://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/sydneytiffa/princess_crown.jpg) But... That's exactly my point? They "pretty themselves up." They can look so different. I'm saying /that/ is exactly what I find to be admirable about them. They have tremendously amazing make-up and styling skills, to the point where they create a whole different type of "beauty" all together. Its not about whether "Natural Beauty is prettier" or "Ullzzang is prettier" --- They're completely different types and level of "beauty" (Or rather, I see it as a type of fashion style)... that I really don't see the point in comparing the two. Its like comparing a well done charcoal sketch to a multi-layered oil painting. They have completely different values and purposes.
And everyone has their own preferences and aesthetics they're looking for. Plus, your example made it seem like Ulzzangs(or any other make-up heavy styles) do it for /other poeple/, while in truth, they do it for themselves because /they/ like it, /they/ want to put the effort into achieving the look. If some guy doesn't like it, then screw him. Its what they find aesthetically pleasing -- that's all.
And for the record: Natural beauty is only pretty if you're... well, naturally pretty. And again, its visual preference. "Beauty" has a broad spectrum, after all.
But in the end, I suppose I just see make up, fashion, and anything of the sort as somewhat an "art form"... So when someone really makes an effort or does a good job at it, I want to respect and appreciate that, (Especially if they're pleasing my eyes as well. xD), as well as not compare which is 'better' or 'worse'. More so, I don't think its something that should be compared. Beauty is not only broad, but also an abstract. All the reason as to why I kind of get miffed when people say that they look 'fake'. D:
But again, that's just me. I have peculiar perceptions and conceptions of various things -- so if I conjure up an argument from someone, then I apologize.
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:37 pm
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Hetare Ouji ![User Image](https://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/sydneytiffa/princess_crown.jpg) But... That's exactly my point? They "pretty themselves up." They can look so different. I'm saying /that/ is exactly what I find to be admirable about them. They have tremendously amazing make-up and styling skills, to the point where they create a whole different type of "beauty" all together. Its not about whether "Natural Beauty is prettier" or "Ullzzang is prettier" --- They're completely different types and level of "beauty" (Or rather, I see it as a type of fashion style)... that I really don't see the point in comparing the two. Its like comparing a well done charcoal sketch to a multi-layered oil painting. They have completely different values and purposes.
And everyone has their own preferences and aesthetics they're looking for. Plus, your example made it seem like Ulzzangs(or any other make-up heavy styles) do it for /other poeple/, while in truth, they do it for themselves because /they/ like it, /they/ want to put the effort into achieving the look. If some guy doesn't like it, then screw him. Its what they find aesthetically pleasing -- that's all.
And for the record: Natural beauty is only pretty if you're... well, naturally pretty. And again, its visual preference. "Beauty" has a broad spectrum, after all.
But in the end, I suppose I just see make up, fashion, and anything of the sort as somewhat an "art form"... So when someone really makes an effort or does a good job at it, I want to respect and appreciate that, (Especially if they're pleasing my eyes as well. xD), as well as not compare which is 'better' or 'worse'. More so, I don't think its something that should be compared. Beauty is not only broad, but also an abstract. All the reason as to why I kind of get miffed when people say that they look 'fake'. D:
But again, that's just me. I have peculiar perceptions and conceptions of various things -- so if I conjure up an argument from someone, then I apologize.
But still people go so far now and days that beauty is a competition you know? Its like..girls at such a young age put on make up just to you know..Look pretty when its really all about having fun at that time i see girls as young as nine already applying it but hey its not my word to say anything.
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:14 am
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:08 pm
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:46 pm
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![User Image](https://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/sydneytiffa/princess_crown.jpg) ...Oh man. o.o; Photoshop does wonders...
I mean, I'm completely okay with people changing the lighting to make their skin look lighter or fix the skin to look clearer, because I mean -- thats something you can do naturally if you try, so like, I don't really see the problem or see whats so bad about it. But when people start CONTORTING their face with photoshop... so that it looks practically nothing like them... its almost as though there's no longer any purpose in /trying/ to pretty yourself? Its like... enhancing your own features with your own hand(in the bare, not by the mouse/computer!), I think, is totally okay -- the base is still you -- but when you change your face entirely, its just... its like character design. Its not really you anymore? I don't know. D:
Although, at the same time, even though I'd never do it --- I think plastic surgery is an A-OKAY thing to do.
... Meh. Idk. D:
Just to throw it out there, though --- I photoshop(well... I don't have photoshop, so I just use the simple editting options on a ghetto program on my PC) my cosplay pictures to enhance the colors of my costume. Or to create thematic effects. Well basically, I just change the lighting. Or I just change the lighting settings on my camera -- either or. :c So, uh, idk. Maybe you guys think what I'm doing is fake too.
Well, as they say, to each his own. c:
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:06 pm
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@maylinn lol yea, its really weird, sometimes you cant even tell when a picture is photoshop or not >__>
@hetare ouji wonders indeed ><
changing the lighting/brightness is compltly fine but people really shouldn't go so far like evening skin tone, making eyes bigger, thats just not you anymore, anyone can make them selves look like that if they had phoneshop, circle lenses, and glue :/
i also photoshop, mostly lighting what your doing isnt fake, its normal xD even though i have the photoshop program im not gonna spend time making my pictures look like something else, thats just silly >>
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:04 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:40 pm
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:33 am
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