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Lady_Threnody

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:35 pm


lurichan
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whats your opinion on Ouija boards? Could they be used to contact fae or are they too dangerous. Ive heard so many rumors about the boards that i dont even know what is true about them and what's not.


The one rumor about the Ouija board I can vouche for is that it can be dangerous if not used properly or if you don't know what you're doing. Don't take my word for it, try it out if you're willing to take such a risk... although I can't say it would be worth it. I've watched my sister and a friend of ours play it for nine years, they had no idea what they were doing nor did they know it's secrets (perse).


I remember the analogy my mom used for an ouija board, "It's like putting up a flyer on a busy street that you are having an open invite party, you never know what is going to show up". Which is, of course why I was never allowed to have one. ^^* From what I've heard though it's not possible to actually bless a board and have it still work right. It's also not really possible to direct specifically who or what will be communicating with you via an ouija board, especially considering some maligent spirits can and will lie pretending to be your dead ____ to get you to pay attention to them and then turn nasty once you've started to trust them.

As for contacting fae....an ouija board is most likely the least likely way of actually getting their attentions. It's more designed to weaken the veil between the spirit world and the material world, and less likely to actually bring you in contact with something living and vibrant like a fae. ^^*


Very true. I believe that studying and practicing Necromacy (the real divination not the misconceptions) is a better way to deal with spirits than to just using a board in which can be easily manipulated. This form of divination (necromacy) is far better to use than the Ouija board.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:32 am


Do you have any webpages on necromancy? I'm pretty sure that if i google it or something i'll just get a bunch of rpg crap.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:09 am


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Do you have any webpages on necromancy? I'm pretty sure that if i google it or something i'll just get a bunch of rpg crap.


Actually just typing in necromancy seems to get mostly non-RPG hits.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:31 am


Really? Hmm, ok then.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:39 pm


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Do you have any webpages on necromancy? I'm pretty sure that if i google it or something i'll just get a bunch of rpg crap.


Yes I have a bunch of links on Necromancy. Here are some that are legit with the actual info on the real thing:

http://realmagick.com/articles/17/1817.html
http://www.westgatenecromantic.com/index.html
http://www23.brinkster.com/falcis/
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos195.htm
http://www.themystica.org/mystica/articles/n/necromancy.html

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:44 pm


Thanks ^_^ *Runs off to study*

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:30 pm


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Thanks ^_^ *Runs off to study*


You're very welcome. ^_^
PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:51 pm


ceilisidhe
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Personally, I like the old celtic legends of the fey and how the old gods turned into the fey because no-one believed in them any more. They're pretty sad legends particularly the Children of Lir and how when they returned to their father's home no one was left.

But my love of the fey has helped me create the basis of a story I'm hoping to turn into a novel (with any luck - please gods help me!!!) so that people can be taught of the Tuatha and hopefully start new interest in them (though, if it's a work of fantasy people will probably throw it away as such stare )


Remember Buckland wrote a fictional book about witches before his non-fictional release, and now the "Buckland's Blue" is standard fare in most pagan libraries. ~_^

Unseelie sidhe can be truly frightening (a la Galadriel when Frodo offered her the ring) and it's they who I'd be most wary of on Samhain night.

A couple well-known unseelie fae of note( known by the names children gave them)
___Rawhead and bloody bones-a sluagh who was(?) fond of reaching between the steps when children walked downstairs at night.
___Mother Moray--a Lhiannon sidhe who would enter homes at night to drain a baby's blood to bathe her own child in by the hearthfire.
The proper spelling is Leanansidhe, or that is how it was taught to me. The one Leanansidhe I fear lives on the Isle of Man and preys on poets and artists, and in exchange for eternal glory, she trains their blood to eternally keep their talent.

-Lasciate Ogni Speranza-


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:41 pm


welcometomyhell
ceilisidhe
Isobel Bellamy
Personally, I like the old celtic legends of the fey and how the old gods turned into the fey because no-one believed in them any more. They're pretty sad legends particularly the Children of Lir and how when they returned to their father's home no one was left.

But my love of the fey has helped me create the basis of a story I'm hoping to turn into a novel (with any luck - please gods help me!!!) so that people can be taught of the Tuatha and hopefully start new interest in them (though, if it's a work of fantasy people will probably throw it away as such stare )


Remember Buckland wrote a fictional book about witches before his non-fictional release, and now the "Buckland's Blue" is standard fare in most pagan libraries. ~_^

Unseelie sidhe can be truly frightening (a la Galadriel when Frodo offered her the ring) and it's they who I'd be most wary of on Samhain night.

A couple well-known unseelie fae of note( known by the names children gave them)
___Rawhead and bloody bones-a sluagh who was(?) fond of reaching between the steps when children walked downstairs at night.
___Mother Moray--a Lhiannon sidhe who would enter homes at night to drain a baby's blood to bathe her own child in by the hearthfire.
The proper spelling is Leanansidhe, or that is how it was taught to me. The one Leanansidhe I fear lives on the Isle of Man and preys on poets and artists, and in exchange for eternal glory, she trains their blood to eternally keep their talent.


Leanhaun is also deemed correct - there are actually over 7 different spellings depending on language (Welsh, "true" Gaelic, Irish Gaelic, Scottish Gaelic, Manx) as well as region(each of the 5 counties of Eire had their own spelling as did the high- and low- land Scots). The one who lives on the Isle of Mannan, well, I deign to refrain from typing her name nor give details pertaining to her.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:55 pm


I feel a foolish need to leap into this conversation, because it touches on something that's been bothering me for ages.

Plenty of modern media, from Disney to the cleaned up version of Grimm's Faerietales, portrays the fae as cute. Originally, they were nothing of the sort. Certainly the unseelie are ambivalent toward mortals at best, and outwardly malicious at worst, and it's wise to be wary of them. But even the seelie can be dangerous to mortals. They're not above plotting revenge if you're rude to them, or leaving mortal lovers dead on a hillside after a particularly nasty spat.

The fae aren't sparkly, innocent pieces of floof, and Faerieland is nothing like the My Little Pony Castle. I twitch a little when I see people claiming to understand fae, or to be fae, without knowing how these creatures really act. Overreaction? Possibly. But I'm a Brit who grew up on faerie stories, and it's tough to watch your culture's mythology get distorted by ignorant people who want to believe they're otherkin.

I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but damn, it felt good to rant about that.

Veruniel
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lurichan
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:25 pm


Veruniel
I feel a foolish need to leap into this conversation, because it touches on something that's been bothering me for ages.

Plenty of modern media, from Disney to the cleaned up version of Grimm's Faerietales, portrays the fae as cute. Originally, they were nothing of the sort. Certainly the unseelie are ambivalent toward mortals at best, and outwardly malicious at worst, and it's wise to be wary of them. But even the seelie can be dangerous to mortals. They're not above plotting revenge if you're rude to them, or leaving mortal lovers dead on a hillside after a particularly nasty spat.

The fae aren't sparkly, innocent pieces of floof, and Faerieland is nothing like the My Little Pony Castle. I twitch a little when I see people claiming to understand fae, or to be fae, without knowing how these creatures really act. Overreaction? Possibly. But I'm a Brit who grew up on faerie stories, and it's tough to watch your culture's mythology get distorted by ignorant people who want to believe they're otherkin.

I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but damn, it felt good to rant about that.


*nods* A lot of people forget that fae are chaotic creatures that don't view the world through the same eyes as human beings. Too many people take only the good without recognizing and understanding the flip side. Glad to see your input. ^_^
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:31 pm


Veruniel
I feel a foolish need to leap into this conversation, because it touches on something that's been bothering me for ages.

Plenty of modern media, from Disney to the cleaned up version of Grimm's Faerietales, portrays the fae as cute. Originally, they were nothing of the sort. Certainly the unseelie are ambivalent toward mortals at best, and outwardly malicious at worst, and it's wise to be wary of them. But even the seelie can be dangerous to mortals. They're not above plotting revenge if you're rude to them, or leaving mortal lovers dead on a hillside after a particularly nasty spat.

The fae aren't sparkly, innocent pieces of floof, and Faerieland is nothing like the My Little Pony Castle. I twitch a little when I see people claiming to understand fae, or to be fae, without knowing how these creatures really act. Overreaction? Possibly. But I'm a Brit who grew up on faerie stories, and it's tough to watch your culture's mythology get distorted by ignorant people who want to believe they're otherkin.

I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but damn, it felt good to rant about that.


A quaint little rant with much potential-I'd love to see an unadulterated version in the rantbox. *hint*

ceilisidhe


Veruniel
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:39 pm


Ahh, but an unadulterated rant would involve very adulterous language. I've got to be careful, or someone might think I'm an evil unseelie in disguise. wink
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:26 am


Veruniel
Ahh, but an unadulterated rant would involve very adulterous language. I've got to be careful, or someone might think I'm an evil unseelie in disguise. wink


.....uh huh. yeah.


Unseelie aren't evil per se - just ask Sdara.

ceilisidhe


Veruniel
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:23 pm


I was only joking.

But a lot of people consider them evil, though I don't hold with that view. They act very differently than we do, and don't even think the same way. Of course it's also true of the seelie, but the unseelie are so cunning and openly guileful that some people confuse it with wanton cruelty.

Many mortals just can't accept such chaotic unpredictablility. We're frightened by what we don't understand.
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