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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:27 am
Its got a good effect. But with TeleDad and Twilight decks topping so much. It drives up the values. Because its like monkey see, monkey do. Other players mimic the decks that win at regionals. Driving the prices up. I find it funny currently. My deck can be built completely out of commons and rares except for 2 holo's. Thats it. Two holo's and earlier today it went head to head with TeleDad. Twice. Almost took them down to. Just couldnt capitalize a bit sooner. And I am looking into adding another common card in to slow these types of decks down further.
Just showing the decks that are built with expensive cards can fall victim to decks that can cost a lot less. My deck currently is worth less than a $100. And yet it holds its own. Lol. CCV where I play at is either losing some play or I just havent seen it come out. I am unsure which :/
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:01 am
yuki_aoi Its got a good effect. But with TeleDad and Twilight decks topping so much. It drives up the values. Because its like monkey see, monkey do. Other players mimic the decks that win at regionals. Driving the prices up. I find it funny currently. My deck can be built completely out of commons and rares except for 2 holo's. Thats it. Two holo's and earlier today it went head to head with TeleDad. Twice. Almost took them down to. Just couldnt capitalize a bit sooner. And I am looking into adding another common card in to slow these types of decks down further.
Just showing the decks that are built with expensive cards can fall victim to decks that can cost a lot less. My deck currently is worth less than a $100. And yet it holds its own. Lol. CCV where I play at is either losing some play or I just havent seen it come out. I am unsure which :/ Haha nice all three of my complete decks are less than $100 each as well the most expensive card in any of my decks is an E Tele in my Psychic deck, which I might end up selling to get farther along in my Yubel deck, which ironically actually benefits from TeleDAD, Lightsworn, and any other mass pop the field deck
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:40 am
With the right hand, CCV can single handedly end games.
Without Solemn set, it can wreck you completely.
Once, my opponent set Sangan and CCV first turn, next turn in my standby phase I lost my entire hand.
It's most certainly worth having if you want to play competitively since it can often cripple your opponent on it's own.
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:29 am
Yea but also theres the Mind over Matter in Psychic haha
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:34 am
Crush Card's worthless against Zombies. All it does is send Mezuki to the Graveyard to Special Summon more Zombies.
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:49 am
Jevan R. H. Divinitive Crush Card's worthless against Zombies. All it does is send Mezuki to the Graveyard to Special Summon more Zombies. Kinda useless aginst Yubel...at best it'll get D Creator, Rainbow Dark, and Pat of Darkness into the graveyard
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:34 pm
Crush Card Virus always hits the opponent to some degree. If stopped, the opponent must use the proper resources to stop it; in standard plays the card to do so is Solemn Judgment. So in the sense, yes, Crush Card Virus is gone and so is its advantage, at the cost of half of your opponent's Life Points. It's a card well worth halting with a Solemn. If worked around, such as the case of Jevan's Mezuki, it means Crush Card Virus went off as planned, and hit a few monsters on the way. Now he's using cards and resource that, if not for Crush Card Virus, wouldn't be necessary in the first place. What makes Crush Card Virus is not that it destroys the opponent's monsters. It's for simply knowing what the opponent has; knowing what to stop and when to stop it. All that's left is how to stop it. It also gives you advantage for knowing what your opponent has to stop what you have. For three turns of knowing your opponent's hand is a large advantage. Destroying what could be a mass amount of monsters is just the big, juicy cherry top. However, I won't deny that Crush Card Virus is limited to one for both parts of this effect.
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:06 pm
Sieg Selwyn Crush Card Virus always hits the opponent to some degree. If stopped, the opponent must use the proper resources to stop it; in standard plays the card to do so is Solemn Judgment. So in the sense, yes, Crush Card Virus is gone and so is its advantage, at the cost of half of your opponent's Life Points. It's a card well worth halting with a Solemn. If worked around, such as the case of Jevan's Mezuki, it means Crush Card Virus went off as planned, and hit a few monsters on the way. Now he's using cards and resource that, if not for Crush Card Virus, wouldn't be necessary in the first place. What makes Crush Card Virus is not that it destroys the opponent's monsters. It's for simply knowing what the opponent has; knowing what to stop and when to stop it. All that's left is how to stop it. It also gives you advantage for knowing what your opponent has to stop what you have. For three turns of knowing your opponent's hand is a large advantage. Destroying what could be a mass amount of monsters is just the big, juicy cherry top. However, I won't deny that Crush Card Virus is limited to one for both parts of this effect. Having to use resources? More like it gives you more resources quicker than you would get them normally giving you an advantage.
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:42 pm
Jevan R. H. Divinitive Having to use resources? More like it gives you more resources quicker than you would get them normally giving you an advantage. Using and removing cards from your hand or graveyard to regain a field from Crush Card Virus isn't giving you anything. What monster would you special summon from the graveyard, because Crush Card Virus sent it there? Zombie Master? I would rather be able to normal summon it. Same for Mezuki, after all he has 1700 attack for a reason, and a nice level to use for a Goyo while sending him and Plaguespreader Zombie to the graveyard at the same time.
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:08 pm
Sieg Selwyn Jevan R. H. Divinitive Having to use resources? More like it gives you more resources quicker than you would get them normally giving you an advantage. Using and removing cards from your hand or graveyard to regain a field from Crush Card Virus isn't giving you anything. What monster would you special summon from the graveyard, because Crush Card Virus sent it there? Zombie Master? I would rather be able to normal summon it. Same for Mezuki, after all he has 1700 attack for a reason, and a nice level to use for a Goyo while sending him and Plaguespreader Zombie to the graveyard at the same time. Actually it all depends on the deck..if I were using my Dragon I would gladly M Reborn a Blue eyes, my Warrior gladly a Rose, my Psychic GLADLY overdrive tele, my Yubel gladly a Pat of Darkness, my Mill...well nothing to worry about there >.> its a defense mill deck
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:12 pm
Rolayler Sieg Selwyn Jevan R. H. Divinitive Having to use resources? More like it gives you more resources quicker than you would get them normally giving you an advantage. Using and removing cards from your hand or graveyard to regain a field from Crush Card Virus isn't giving you anything. What monster would you special summon from the graveyard, because Crush Card Virus sent it there? Zombie Master? I would rather be able to normal summon it. Same for Mezuki, after all he has 1700 attack for a reason, and a nice level to use for a Goyo while sending him and Plaguespreader Zombie to the graveyard at the same time. Actually it all depends on the deck..if I were using my Dragon I would gladly M Reborn a Blue eyes, my Warrior gladly a Rose, my Psychic GLADLY overdrive tele, my Yubel gladly a Pat of Darkness, my Mill...well nothing to worry about there >.> its a defense mill deck Yes, it does depend on the deck. And yes, there are targets that you would want to use Monster Reborn for. Having to use these resources such as Monster Reborn due to a loss of cards from Crush Card Virus doesn't make up for it, or benefit that you were hit by the card to begin with. A Monster Reborn can always be saved for later.
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:32 pm
Limiting CCV doesn't make sense, since it just makes the devastating effect of CCV happen LESS, but doesn't make it any less harmful when it goes off.
It makes sense to limit a card like Stratos, however, or Green Baboon. But I think if a card is too powerful to not wreck the game in threes shouldn't be allowed in ones.
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:01 am
I was thinking more along the lines of using Mezuki for Il Blud or Malevolent Mech - Goku En while Card of Safe Return is on the field to refill my hand and graveyard with other Zombies thanks to CCV. Zombie Decks work faster when the Zombie's are in the Graveyard. Also with Burial from a Different Dimension you can return 3 Mezuki/Plaguespeader Zombie's to your Graveyard. That's 1 for 3!
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:13 am
yuki_aoi ... But with [...] Twilight decks topping so much... This made me laugh a bit, that's all. Matt Blue Limiting CCV doesn't make sense, since it just makes the devastating effect of CCV happen LESS, but doesn't make it any less harmful when it goes off. It makes sense to limit a card like Stratos, however, or Green Baboon. But I think if a card is too powerful to not wreck the game in threes shouldn't be allowed in ones. Fact: Monster Reborn is a more devastating effect than Virus. Reborn Thought Ruler? After I just finished spending whatever resources I needed to spend to rid myself of it once? Ugh. GG. Honest kind of wrecks the game at 3, it makes any deck that plays it viable. Does that make it ban-worthy?
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:38 am
Kuan Hsing Matt Blue Limiting CCV doesn't make sense, since it just makes the devastating effect of CCV happen LESS, but doesn't make it any less harmful when it goes off. It makes sense to limit a card like Stratos, however, or Green Baboon. But I think if a card is too powerful to not wreck the game in threes shouldn't be allowed in ones. Fact: Monster Reborn is a more devastating effect than Virus. Reborn Thought Ruler? After I just finished spending whatever resources I needed to spend to rid myself of it once? Ugh. GG. Honest kind of wrecks the game at 3, it makes any deck that plays it viable. Does that make it ban-worthy? Fact: What you just stated about Reborn is not a fact. And Reborn is banworthy anyways, so I'm not sure what kind of point you were trying to make seeing as I never mentioned it in my original post. What's wrong with good attribute support? And don't even try to say Crush is just good support too, while Honest just makes one battle go well, Crush can end entire games.
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