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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:55 am
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:55 pm
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:23 pm
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:00 pm
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I wish I could be love, Then I could be All over the world. Humans are naturally born evil. That's the stance some crazy Philosopher from the 1700's thought. And to a point that is agreeable. Disciplining a child can be extremely beneficial IF done correctly. There are three basic types of learners. Audio learners, people who learn by hearing. Visual learners, people who learn by seeing or reading. And finally kinesthetic, which is learning by feeling or touching. Notice that these correspond to the five senses, but it's really hard to learn just by tasting and smelling, (hmm... this number smells funky, so I think it means X to the fifth power.) When we're just infants, we don't really know much about visual learning. We can't really read at all. And what does a finger wag in the face mean to a mere child? We do have visual learning down, just by a bit. We'll know if our parents are mad at us when they raise their voices. But the most learning we get from when we're children is by kinesthetics. We're just like lab mice, in a sense. If we go to door number one and find that we get shocked, we'll (eventually) learn not to go to that door anymore. If we go to door number two and get cheese, we'll learn that that's a good thing to do. Translating that to human children, if we do something wrong, we get disciplined, either verbally or physically. We go "Ow, stop yelling so loud, I'm sorry" when they yell, and "Ow, that didn't feel good, I'm sorry." when they physically discipline us. Back to the fact that we don't learn much from visuals when we're children, I pose this question. How do you discipline a child by making them read? Anyways, on the topic of Physical discipline. There are many ways to physically discipline children. You can, spank, slap, pinch, or send them physically into a place in which they will not enjoy (i.e. a very dark room or outside of the house.) For children, some measurements are more extreme depending on their age than others, but at the same time, this somewhat traumatizing way of discipline is extremely effective. Say you send a 5 year old into a dark room for 10 minutes. They'll start screaming and whining and crying. Another drawback of this is that it could actually traumatize the child for the rest of their life. The smallest form of physical punishment (one which will cause least pain) is slapping of the palm. The child will recognize this mentally "Hey, that didn't really hurt... but I don't like how you made me feel that way, so I'll try and avoid doing that." The drawback on this side however, is since it didn't hurt as much, they'll probably forget it quicker and repeat the same error as before. So there are two ways of doing the discipline and those on the middle. The fast and sloppy way, or the slow and steady way. Please keep in mind I'm not trying to put negative connotations on the first way, I just feel that's t he only way I can think of on how to express that right now. Now, there is a difference, as you all know, between Physical Abuse and Physical discipline. Sometimes though, for parents, Physically disciplining a child can lead to Physical abuse. In other times, parents have bottled up rage and only feel they should relieve it upon their children (bad.) And in rare, but sad cases, the Parents aren't really disciplining their child at all, and like physically abusing their children. On the scariest and saddest case, I feel the child ends up forming their own sense of discipline and teaches them that. And now quoting a conversation:
(4:36:36 PM) chopstixgurli: a lot of asian kids get hit (4:36:51 PM) chopstixgurli: my friend gets chairs thrown on him and kicked and stuff (4:37:08 PM) chopstixgurli: his dad shoved him against a wall so hard that he couldn't walk for like a week (4:37:14 PM) Animaznboy: Oh wow. (4:37:17 PM) Animaznboy: That's scary. (4:37:26 PM) chopstixgurli: i know (4:38:19 PM) chopstixgurli: its weird (4:38:19 PM) chopstixgurli: his parents get mad (4:38:29 PM) chopstixgurli: and then they threw a chair at him (4:38:32 PM) chopstixgurli: and it broke (4:38:39 PM) chopstixgurli: so they got more mad at him for breaking the chair
This is a case of Extreme physical discipline leading to Physical abuse. I've been physically disciplined before, but I don't care that much about it. I think it's good.
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:04 pm
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:45 pm
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:25 pm
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:19 am
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:42 am
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:08 pm
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For some reason, I keep picturing that if the law allows parents to discipline their children physically, that every parents in America is going to take advantage of that and turn it into child abuse. Probably false but..I won't like it if parents are (physically) disciplining their kids to the extreme as to leave scars or bruises. No bleeding too.
This is what I'm afraid. If parents are going to discipline their kids physically, are they going to do it the right way? I know my parents did.
I will approve physical discipline if it's done the right way. The kids won't have scary traumas and scary flashbacks when they grow older.. __________ How my parents discipline me (back then):
If I did something really bad, I get whooped with a wooden stick on the butt. A slap on the face if I said something wrong. Kneel/stand facing the wall for lighter punishments.
Weird how I never get locked outside or in a room or anything like that though. I've only gotten grounded once. I wouldn't call standing against a wall "grounded". Isn't being grounded, not letting your kids go anywhere? I wonder if grounding your kids really work..
But after almost every punishments that required slapping or whooping, my mom/dad would apologize for hitting me and told me that I shouldn't -insert bad deed- anymore. After that, they hug me <3 What's so important about that is, it shows my parents don't hate me, they just want to discipline me.
If any parents are going to whoop their children, they should do ^ that. : ) And that's why I love the way my parents discipline me. I can feel their love. <3 _____________ As for physical discipline in school...I'm not too sure about that. But I feel that the consequences HAS to be HIGHER. Oh so what detention going to get you at? They just put you in a room. The end. Also, back in middle school, some teachers were hesitating to put kids in detention e__e;. Some teachers are just so soft.
This post is so long. xD Oh well. Thanks for reading though.
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:51 pm
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:50 pm
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