WHY IN HELL DO SO MANY PEOPLE HATE CATCH 22?

[Guns of Navarone]

Melomaniacal

Guns of Navarone

Melomaniacal

Guns of Navarone

Melomaniacal

Guns of Navarone

wow I love you people who're like. ehh I only like keasbey nights era catch. like you even have listened to s**t since then? you just listen to streetlight.

catch 22 wins. they are constantly doing something new, not the same ten songs over and over. they do have good songs after keasbey, infact I think its one of their worst albums. still great, but nowhere near the best CD ever.

Go listen to point the blame and tell me catch 22 still sucks.

and the new cd was amazing. if you don't like it, then you're one of them people who're like oh god its slow eww. ska started off slow, I love 2-tone and trad, so slow stuff is fine with me.

ya know streetlights first show was to over 1000 people? all cuz people who listened to catch 22 because catch 22 kept playing and making ska big in the area after kalnoky left. then he's like oh hey lets start a band and instantly sell out shows. woo. like. its just stupid. catch wins, because they can write more than 10 songs.

Yes, I have listened to all the newer albums. I like some songs off of them, but for every one song I like, there's 2 or 3 that I can't stand. I'm not saying Catch 22 sucks, I'm just saying that they aren't my cup of tea anymore. As you should know, I listen to my fair share of traditional and 2-tone ska.
I still don't get what you mean when you say Streetlight only has 10 songs. Right now, I can list you 21 songs, all of which are unique and have different sounds. If you say they sound the same, that's because either A) I'm pretty sure you (unless I'm thinking of someone else) admitted to only listening to them once awhile back, and not listening to them since, or B) You hear them, but you aren't actually listening to them. At least give me reasons why you think they sound the same. And if you're going to tell me "O, THEY REDID KESBEY, LOL, THEY RNT CREATIVE!" I'll direct you to a interview where Tomas explains that none of them really wanted to do it, but it "had to be done." He said he couldn't go into more detail, so you can draw your own conclusions from that.

But, back to the point, Catch 22 doesn't suck, I just don't like them as much. I still like some of their new stuff, but Keasbey Nights was just more up my alley then their newer stuff. When I hear songs like "Hard to Impress," I cringe. The way I see it, Streetlight is much less simple, but Catch is more fun in a sense. It's hard to compare them, and neither is better than the other, there is no "winner." Really, you can't declare any band to "win" over another band, that's just dumb and opinionated. They are both good bands, but very different. Catch 22 is a ska band, Streetlight is BARELY a ska band.

I'd listened to them multiple times. first cd like atleast 3 or 4 times all the way through. can't get into it and so its like ehh ******** that don't wanna listen to it.

I know that victory was just gonna release Keasbey Nights as a streetlight album, so they were like ******** that if you're gonna do that we'll just re-do it ourselves.

the songs sound the same to me because I don't think any of the songs from EGN were any different from keasbey nights pretty much. there were like 4 songs that were new on SITB out of 10. but for the most part it all sounds generally the same, and seeing as I didn't like it the first time, I heard it, I didn't like it the next 40 times I heard it either. which is another reason I'm not a fan of them.

Honestly, you saying that the songs on Numb sound anything like Keasbey Nights is COMPLETELY ridiculous to me. The song structure is completely different, and the songs on Numb are MUCH, MUCH more complex. Every song on Keasbey Nights uses the EXACT same drum beats, while Numb changes things up a lot. As for SITB... every song on that album is a completely new original song, so once again to say that they aren't new is completely ridiculous to me. But I don't understand how you can possibly think Keasbey and Numb sound the same...
But let me just make sure you understand that I'm not saying it's wrong to dislike Streetlight. Go ahead, hate away 3nodding I just don't want you thinking that I'm trying to make you like Streetlight...

lol I love how much you try and be all like politically correct at the end of your arguements. its not a big deal. everyone has their own opinions, if you take someone else opion so seriously it bothers you, well thats your fault then. so don't worry about being all PC instead, just sit back listen to I Got This Neighbor. lol

and to black dragon. yeah, a lot of kids who listen to streetlight do that. its best to just go ahead and inform them about the history and everything else, because no matter what you say they're just gonna talk about how they're so ska. and yes, Guns of Navarone is an amazing song, I wake up to it every morning. hahaha

After that last argument, I'm just trying to be careful xp

Honestly, I think Streetlight is a good gateway band, so to speak. Yes, we all hate those people who think they're the rudest skanks because they know all the words to Point/Counterpoint, but sooner or later they're going to want to dig deeper into ska. Just give them time, they will learn more about ska, and without bands like Streetlight and Reel Big Fish, who appeal to more people who listen to modern music and whatnot, ska would be a whole lot more... dead.

yeah I know that ska would be more dead. sadly, streetlight will sell out shows, and then local shows don't even get more than like 40 people. all I have to say is WTF  

[A Pharmaceutical Bandit]

Guns of Navarone

Melomaniacal

Guns of Navarone

Melomaniacal

Guns of Navarone

I'd listened to them multiple times. first cd like atleast 3 or 4 times all the way through. can't get into it and so its like ehh ******** that don't wanna listen to it.

I know that victory was just gonna release Keasbey Nights as a streetlight album, so they were like ******** that if you're gonna do that we'll just re-do it ourselves.

the songs sound the same to me because I don't think any of the songs from EGN were any different from keasbey nights pretty much. there were like 4 songs that were new on SITB out of 10. but for the most part it all sounds generally the same, and seeing as I didn't like it the first time, I heard it, I didn't like it the next 40 times I heard it either. which is another reason I'm not a fan of them.

Honestly, you saying that the songs on Numb sound anything like Keasbey Nights is COMPLETELY ridiculous to me. The song structure is completely different, and the songs on Numb are MUCH, MUCH more complex. Every song on Keasbey Nights uses the EXACT same drum beats, while Numb changes things up a lot. As for SITB... every song on that album is a completely new original song, so once again to say that they aren't new is completely ridiculous to me. But I don't understand how you can possibly think Keasbey and Numb sound the same...
But let me just make sure you understand that I'm not saying it's wrong to dislike Streetlight. Go ahead, hate away 3nodding I just don't want you thinking that I'm trying to make you like Streetlight...

lol I love how much you try and be all like politically correct at the end of your arguements. its not a big deal. everyone has their own opinions, if you take someone else opion so seriously it bothers you, well thats your fault then. so don't worry about being all PC instead, just sit back listen to I Got This Neighbor. lol

and to black dragon. yeah, a lot of kids who listen to streetlight do that. its best to just go ahead and inform them about the history and everything else, because no matter what you say they're just gonna talk about how they're so ska. and yes, Guns of Navarone is an amazing song, I wake up to it every morning. hahaha

After that last argument, I'm just trying to be careful xp

Honestly, I think Streetlight is a good gateway band, so to speak. Yes, we all hate those people who think they're the rudest skanks because they know all the words to Point/Counterpoint, but sooner or later they're going to want to dig deeper into ska. Just give them time, they will learn more about ska, and without bands like Streetlight and Reel Big Fish, who appeal to more people who listen to modern music and whatnot, ska would be a whole lot more... dead.

yeah I know that ska would be more dead. sadly, streetlight will sell out shows, and then local shows don't even get more than like 40 people. all I have to say is WTF

Around here people love local shows sweatdrop  

[YoshiMexico]

i didn't read through the whole thing, i still have some brain cells i want to keep alive.

anyways

yea, catch rules...
"hey! look! what's that sound?"
"please disregard all your birthday cards!"
"we used to be in love! now we're just in like!" oh wait.. that's streetlight.

yea and they suck live too, still, one of my favorite bands.  

[Rick _Vegas]

I definitely like Streetlight a whole lot more than Catch 22. And it seemed like most people on the front page that I read said they only liked Catch 22 when they made KN. I'd just like to clarify, as I'm sure most already know that Kalnoky wrote all that s**t. I still listen to the Catch 22 version since I like it better, but after Kalnoky left Catch22, they just weren't worth listening to anymore. Sure they were pumping out a bunch of new s**t, but it all sounded horrible to me, and not even worth listening. The point is Kalnoky was the heart of Catch and when he left to Streetlight, he carried that with him. That's why Everything Went Numb is the best s**t you'll ever hear in your life. As far as their new album goes, I'm not gonna lie, I'm not too terribly impressed, but it is still really cool.  

[Guns of Navarone]

Rick _Vegas

I definitely like Streetlight a whole lot more than Catch 22. And it seemed like most people on the front page that I read said they only liked Catch 22 when they made KN. I'd just like to clarify, as I'm sure most already know that Kalnoky wrote all that s**t. I still listen to the Catch 22 version since I like it better, but after Kalnoky left Catch22, they just weren't worth listening to anymore. Sure they were pumping out a bunch of new s**t, but it all sounded horrible to me, and not even worth listening. The point is Kalnoky was the heart of Catch and when he left to Streetlight, he carried that with him. That's why Everything Went Numb is the best s**t you'll ever hear in your life. As far as their new album goes, I'm not gonna lie, I'm not too terribly impressed, but it is still really cool.

... ok so you're saying you would never listen to Alone In A Crowd is it was by a band that wasn't named Catch 22? thats an amazing CD and you're just one of them douchebags who hate s**t because its not thomas. and yet the new stuff that you're like well ehh about, but yeah its still really cool? what, just cuz its thomas? lol pathetic.

also, you act like he just like left catch 22 and started streetlight. he didn't leave to streetlight, he left for college and like forever later decided, hey I can pull a band together, and have my first concert be infront of 1000 people. yeahhh.

but honestly. listen to keasbey nights, then listen to point the blame. very similar in horn lines, very similar, guitar parts, also very similar, I'm pretty sure most the parts are fairly similar, like in the same style, only point the blame is more complex, or at least it is rhythmically ones oh, and Keasbey Nights is in the key of A and Point the Blame is in the key of B, so maybe you don't like the key of B? or maybe you don't like when people are comfortable enough with rhythm to play with it?  

[Rick _Vegas]

Guns of Navarone

Rick _Vegas

I definitely like Streetlight a whole lot more than Catch 22. And it seemed like most people on the front page that I read said they only liked Catch 22 when they made KN. I'd just like to clarify, as I'm sure most already know that Kalnoky wrote all that s**t. I still listen to the Catch 22 version since I like it better, but after Kalnoky left Catch22, they just weren't worth listening to anymore. Sure they were pumping out a bunch of new s**t, but it all sounded horrible to me, and not even worth listening. The point is Kalnoky was the heart of Catch and when he left to Streetlight, he carried that with him. That's why Everything Went Numb is the best s**t you'll ever hear in your life. As far as their new album goes, I'm not gonna lie, I'm not too terribly impressed, but it is still really cool.

... ok so you're saying you would never listen to Alone In A Crowd is it was by a band that wasn't named Catch 22? thats an amazing CD and you're just one of them douchebags who hate s**t because its not thomas. and yet the new stuff that you're like well ehh about, but yeah its still really cool? what, just cuz its thomas? lol pathetic.

also, you act like he just like left catch 22 and started streetlight. he didn't leave to streetlight, he left for college and like forever later decided, hey I can pull a band together, and have my first concert be infront of 1000 people. yeahhh.

but honestly. listen to keasbey nights, then listen to point the blame. very similar in horn lines, very similar, guitar parts, also very similar, I'm pretty sure most the parts are fairly similar, like in the same style, only point the blame is more complex, or at least it is rhythmically ones oh, and Keasbey Nights is in the key of A and Point the Blame is in the key of B, so maybe you don't like the key of B? or maybe you don't like when people are comfortable enough with rhythm to play with it?

Ha, chill out man. I'm not in love with Thomas Kalnoky, but I do love Streetlight. Before I even knew who he was, I knew that Streetlight and Catch 22 were related in some way, and I knew I didn't like much Catch after KN. When I found out that he wrote it, and that he wrote all the Streetlight songs, that's when I realized why I liked Streetlight Manifesto a lot more than Catch 22. Thomas Kalnoky was the 'missing link' if you will.

As far as this whole 'Point the Blame' argument goes...I'll give you that. That, and their 'Kids in America' cover are the only songs I didn't delete from Catch 22 that weren't from Keasbey Nights.  

[Guns of Navarone]

Rick _Vegas

Guns of Navarone

Rick _Vegas

I definitely like Streetlight a whole lot more than Catch 22. And it seemed like most people on the front page that I read said they only liked Catch 22 when they made KN. I'd just like to clarify, as I'm sure most already know that Kalnoky wrote all that s**t. I still listen to the Catch 22 version since I like it better, but after Kalnoky left Catch22, they just weren't worth listening to anymore. Sure they were pumping out a bunch of new s**t, but it all sounded horrible to me, and not even worth listening. The point is Kalnoky was the heart of Catch and when he left to Streetlight, he carried that with him. That's why Everything Went Numb is the best s**t you'll ever hear in your life. As far as their new album goes, I'm not gonna lie, I'm not too terribly impressed, but it is still really cool.

... ok so you're saying you would never listen to Alone In A Crowd is it was by a band that wasn't named Catch 22? thats an amazing CD and you're just one of them douchebags who hate s**t because its not thomas. and yet the new stuff that you're like well ehh about, but yeah its still really cool? what, just cuz its thomas? lol pathetic.

also, you act like he just like left catch 22 and started streetlight. he didn't leave to streetlight, he left for college and like forever later decided, hey I can pull a band together, and have my first concert be infront of 1000 people. yeahhh.

but honestly. listen to keasbey nights, then listen to point the blame. very similar in horn lines, very similar, guitar parts, also very similar, I'm pretty sure most the parts are fairly similar, like in the same style, only point the blame is more complex, or at least it is rhythmically ones oh, and Keasbey Nights is in the key of A and Point the Blame is in the key of B, so maybe you don't like the key of B? or maybe you don't like when people are comfortable enough with rhythm to play with it?

Ha, chill out man. I'm not in love with Thomas Kalnoky, but I do love Streetlight. Before I even knew who he was, I knew that Streetlight and Catch 22 were related in some way, and I knew I didn't like much Catch after KN. When I found out that he wrote it, and that he wrote all the Streetlight songs, that's when I realized why I liked Streetlight Manifesto a lot more than Catch 22. Thomas Kalnoky was the 'missing link' if you will.

As far as this whole 'Point the Blame' argument goes...I'll give you that. That, and their 'Kids in America' cover are the only songs I didn't delete from Catch 22 that weren't from Keasbey Nights.

ok as long as you don't hate on point the blame. then I'm cool.  

[Status Quo Joe]

I like old Catch.
SLM is just okay though.  

[A Pharmaceutical Bandit]

Guns of Navarone

Rick _Vegas

I definitely like Streetlight a whole lot more than Catch 22. And it seemed like most people on the front page that I read said they only liked Catch 22 when they made KN. I'd just like to clarify, as I'm sure most already know that Kalnoky wrote all that s**t. I still listen to the Catch 22 version since I like it better, but after Kalnoky left Catch22, they just weren't worth listening to anymore. Sure they were pumping out a bunch of new s**t, but it all sounded horrible to me, and not even worth listening. The point is Kalnoky was the heart of Catch and when he left to Streetlight, he carried that with him. That's why Everything Went Numb is the best s**t you'll ever hear in your life. As far as their new album goes, I'm not gonna lie, I'm not too terribly impressed, but it is still really cool.

... ok so you're saying you would never listen to Alone In A Crowd is it was by a band that wasn't named Catch 22? thats an amazing CD and you're just one of them douchebags who hate s**t because its not thomas. and yet the new stuff that you're like well ehh about, but yeah its still really cool? what, just cuz its thomas? lol pathetic.

also, you act like he just like left catch 22 and started streetlight. he didn't leave to streetlight, he left for college and like forever later decided, hey I can pull a band together, and have my first concert be infront of 1000 people. yeahhh.

but honestly. listen to keasbey nights, then listen to point the blame. very similar in horn lines, very similar, guitar parts, also very similar, I'm pretty sure most the parts are fairly similar, like in the same style, only point the blame is more complex, or at least it is rhythmically ones oh, and Keasbey Nights is in the key of A and Point the Blame is in the key of B, so maybe you don't like the key of B? or maybe you don't like when people are comfortable enough with rhythm to play with it?

"Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate..." What else is new...  

[Guns of Navarone]

Melomaniacal

Guns of Navarone

Rick _Vegas

I definitely like Streetlight a whole lot more than Catch 22. And it seemed like most people on the front page that I read said they only liked Catch 22 when they made KN. I'd just like to clarify, as I'm sure most already know that Kalnoky wrote all that s**t. I still listen to the Catch 22 version since I like it better, but after Kalnoky left Catch22, they just weren't worth listening to anymore. Sure they were pumping out a bunch of new s**t, but it all sounded horrible to me, and not even worth listening. The point is Kalnoky was the heart of Catch and when he left to Streetlight, he carried that with him. That's why Everything Went Numb is the best s**t you'll ever hear in your life. As far as their new album goes, I'm not gonna lie, I'm not too terribly impressed, but it is still really cool.

... ok so you're saying you would never listen to Alone In A Crowd is it was by a band that wasn't named Catch 22? thats an amazing CD and you're just one of them douchebags who hate s**t because its not thomas. and yet the new stuff that you're like well ehh about, but yeah its still really cool? what, just cuz its thomas? lol pathetic.

also, you act like he just like left catch 22 and started streetlight. he didn't leave to streetlight, he left for college and like forever later decided, hey I can pull a band together, and have my first concert be infront of 1000 people. yeahhh.

but honestly. listen to keasbey nights, then listen to point the blame. very similar in horn lines, very similar, guitar parts, also very similar, I'm pretty sure most the parts are fairly similar, like in the same style, only point the blame is more complex, or at least it is rhythmically ones oh, and Keasbey Nights is in the key of A and Point the Blame is in the key of B, so maybe you don't like the key of B? or maybe you don't like when people are comfortable enough with rhythm to play with it?

"Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate..." What else is new...

whats new? My plea for peace shirt! =]

and thats not hate, cept the first part because 90% of people decide they hate catch 22 but would probably love them if they changed their name. I wanna go back in take and tell them to change their name after thomas leaves, and see what happens. cuz so many people just compare the very new stuff to keasbey nights and go, ew they suck a** now I'm never listening to them. cept keasbey nights.

but the rest isn't hate. I stated that thomas left for college or whatever, and his first concert was infront of 1000 people for streetlight. stating a fact, not hate. and saying that keasbey night and point the blame are both awesome and similar songs isn't hate.

mhm. I'm just bored soo anyways. my plea for peace shirt is awesome.  

[Throwaway Style]

I don't like either of those bands...  

[Madame Catastrophe]

its okay, i like both catch 22 AND streetlight, the end!  

[JustinGoSka]

Have you heard Permanent Revolution!!!??? It totally SUCKS BALLS!!!! And thats being nice about it. Its terrible, I cant imagine a bigger waste of $10. If youre thinking about buying it you'd get more out of your money using the dollar bill as toilet paper than you will spending it on Catch 22s latest album.  

[TeRRoR HooLiGaN]

NinjaLifer

I don't like either of those bands...

i agree  

[Dead_AvengerS]

i love catch 22