Tarot cards!!

[TeaDidikai]

TheDisreputableDog

Reading up on palmistry, and I'm wondering...derived from class stereotypes in any way?

I just keep seeing things like "the fleshier this part of the hand is, the more compassionate the person is" and "long, thin, smooth hands mean creativity and intelligence" and "stubby fingers indicate a criminal tendency." It just smacks of "sophisticated" hands vs "coarse" hands--upper class vs working class--etc.

That's part of it.

There are other things tied to it as well, such as aspects of vedic philosophy and astrology.  

[Daffodil the Destroyer]

My great great grandmother used to be able to read palms, and perhaps it's due to this sort of psychic connection in my family that I've always been attracted to divinatory tools. I've got a Rider-Waite tarot deck, a set of handmade futhark runes, and I've used pendulums as well. I always manage to lose my pendulums, or invariably they break - I'm careful with them and I don't treat them that roughly, so I've started to think that maybe I'm just not supposed to go that route.

I haven't used my runes lately but I'm still practicing with my cards - I have never done a reading for someone else, partially because I'd like to refine my methods first if possible, but I use them for possible insights into my life and relationships with others. I think my method may be a bit odd.. instead of shuffling and then drawing cards for the spread, I shuffle them and see which cards fall out face up. I use those in the order they fall out in a Celtic cross spread. This is just what felt natural for me, so I'm going with it for now.

The runes haven't really felt as intuitive to me as the cards have.  

[Ulfrikr inn Hrafn]

Daffodil the Destroyer

My great great grandmother used to be able to read palms, and perhaps it's due to this sort of psychic connection in my family that I've always been attracted to divinatory tools. I've got a Rider-Waite tarot deck, a set of handmade futhark runes, and I've used pendulums as well. I always manage to lose my pendulums, or invariably they break - I'm careful with them and I don't treat them that roughly, so I've started to think that maybe I'm just not supposed to go that route.

I haven't used my runes lately but I'm still practicing with my cards - I have never done a reading for someone else, partially because I'd like to refine my methods first if possible, but I use them for possible insights into my life and relationships with others. I think my method may be a bit odd.. instead of shuffling and then drawing cards for the spread, I shuffle them and see which cards fall out face up. I use those in the order they fall out in a Celtic cross spread. This is just what felt natural for me, so I'm going with it for now.

The runes haven't really felt as intuitive to me as the cards have.

Heilsan Daffodil ok Allir,

The answer is that they're not for a reason. One needs to understand the worldview of the Germanic peoples to be able to truly get into the Runic headspace. Tarot, by it's pictorial nature, tends to be very easy to intuit, but with the Runes, one actually has to do some homework and delve deeper into the culture of my ancestors, which is often a far greater task than one may at first think based on the writings and interpretations of most Runic authors, whom seem to spout the same concepts just reworded, which is like looking up a set of keys, but the problem with that is the fact that the key opens a door of each Rune to a multi-faceted layered system, that in reality, must be understood as a totality to be able to get anything real out of it. Just knowing that Fehu = Money is completely useless, as it's far more than that, there are factors and nuances based on its location in the Futhark, it's relation to other Runes, the impact of the Rune poems... etc.

Ver thu heil  

[TeaDidikai]

I'm not sure it is fair to say that Tarot is always easier than the Elder Furthark. I think that has a lot to do with the person really.  

[Daffodil the Destroyer]

Ulfrikr inn Hrafn

Daffodil the Destroyer

My great great grandmother used to be able to read palms, and perhaps it's due to this sort of psychic connection in my family that I've always been attracted to divinatory tools. I've got a Rider-Waite tarot deck, a set of handmade futhark runes, and I've used pendulums as well. I always manage to lose my pendulums, or invariably they break - I'm careful with them and I don't treat them that roughly, so I've started to think that maybe I'm just not supposed to go that route.

I haven't used my runes lately but I'm still practicing with my cards - I have never done a reading for someone else, partially because I'd like to refine my methods first if possible, but I use them for possible insights into my life and relationships with others. I think my method may be a bit odd.. instead of shuffling and then drawing cards for the spread, I shuffle them and see which cards fall out face up. I use those in the order they fall out in a Celtic cross spread. This is just what felt natural for me, so I'm going with it for now.

The runes haven't really felt as intuitive to me as the cards have.

Heilsan Daffodil ok Allir,

The answer is that they're not for a reason. One needs to understand the worldview of the Germanic peoples to be able to truly get into the Runic headspace. Tarot, by it's pictorial nature, tends to be very easy to intuit, but with the Runes, one actually has to do some homework and delve deeper into the culture of my ancestors, which is often a far greater task than one may at first think based on the writings and interpretations of most Runic authors, whom seem to spout the same concepts just reworded, which is like looking up a set of keys, but the problem with that is the fact that the key opens a door of each Rune to a multi-faceted layered system, that in reality, must be understood as a totality to be able to get anything real out of it. Just knowing that Fehu = Money is completely useless, as it's far more than that, there are factors and nuances based on its location in the Futhark, it's relation to other Runes, the impact of the Rune poems... etc.

Ver thu heil

That's a good description of the problems I've encountered personally... sometimes I do a fairly good job with the runes, but I do find it hard to interpret some of the deeper meanings, because I've not been able to find a lot of good information that covers all the aspects of them. I have been keeping an eye on Deo's thread about them, though. wink  

[MingleSpingle]

I don't much understand Tarot cards myself...XP  

[TeaDidikai]

MingleSpingle

I don't much understand Tarot cards myself...XP

Have you looked into the general psychology of symbols and/or the Hero's Journy?  

[Deoridhe]

Ulfrikr inn Hrafn

Daffodil the Destroyer

The runes haven't really felt as intuitive to me as the cards have.

The answer is that they're not for a reason. One needs to understand the worldview of the Germanic peoples to be able to truly get into the Runic headspace.

Oddly, I have the reverse problem - Tarot doesn't come naturally to me, but I can do a solid runic reading that pans out - and I haven't finished my in depth studies yet.  

[TeaDidikai]

Deoridhe

Ulfrikr inn Hrafn

Daffodil the Destroyer

The runes haven't really felt as intuitive to me as the cards have.

The answer is that they're not for a reason. One needs to understand the worldview of the Germanic peoples to be able to truly get into the Runic headspace.

Oddly, I have the reverse problem - Tarot doesn't come naturally to me, but I can do a solid runic reading that pans out - and I haven't finished my in depth studies yet.

You were the one I had in mind when I made my comment earlier. heart  

[Deoridhe]

TeaDidikai

Deoridhe

Oddly, I have the reverse problem - Tarot doesn't come naturally to me, but I can do a solid runic reading that pans out - and I haven't finished my in depth studies yet.

You were the one I had in mind when I made my comment earlier. heart

Heh. Yeah, I'm always a bit weirded out when I do a reading for them and I can tell them what they're asking me about. I really should cast more regularly.  

[TeaDidikai]

Deoridhe

TeaDidikai

Deoridhe

Oddly, I have the reverse problem - Tarot doesn't come naturally to me, but I can do a solid runic reading that pans out - and I haven't finished my in depth studies yet.

You were the one I had in mind when I made my comment earlier. heart

Heh. Yeah, I'm always a bit weirded out when I do a reading for them and I can tell them what they're asking me about. I really should cast more regularly.

Yes. Yes you should.
3nodding  

[Mule of Liz Sama]

I use tarot cards and a pendulum. Though I think my cards are broken...

Those who've read my other thread know I recently moved up to Massachusetts and well I did a reading on my boyfriend only to find out the reading was completely off from what I know of him. I'm pretty sure he tells me the truth about everything but I can't understand why my cards were completely off. I did another reading on myself and it felt like I couldn't quit connect with them like I used to be able too. (Also I should note the first day I physically met *long story* my boyfriend I did a reading with the same deck and they were as I found out beyond accurate that day.)

So I guess my questions are has this happened to you and what are possible causes of this happening ?

Or do my cards just hate me for the moment because of where my star sign is located in relation to the moon? [/random astrology thought]

>_<  

[TeaDidikai]

Dristinia

I use tarot cards and a pendulum. Though I think my cards are broken...

Those who've read my other thread know I recently moved up to Massachusetts and well I did a reading on my boyfriend only to find out the reading was completely off from what I know of him. I'm pretty sure he tells me the truth about everything but I can't understand why my cards were completely off. I did another reading on myself and it felt like I couldn't quit connect with them like I used to be able too. (Also I should note the first day I physically met *long story* my boyfriend I did a reading with the same deck and they were as I found out beyond accurate that day.)

So I guess my questions are has this happened to you and what are possible causes of this happening ?

Or do my cards just hate me for the moment because of where my star sign is located in relation to the moon? [/random astrology thought]

>_<

Please- please! Don't take offense.

My guess, my UPG, my personal opinion, my -insert classic Tea-ism comment about mental personal gratification practices applied in M&R-, my best most grounded reasoning is...

That you've outgrown them.

Your deck itself relies heavily on mythologies of a very specific closed culture.

The other four people I know who used and loved that deck for years (in one case, a decade!) couldn't use it after they stopped working with Thought-form shaped deities and started working with actual gods.

I cannot say for sure that this is the case for you. I cannot say for sure that it isn't a freak accident that my friends had these experiences.

I just can't ignore a pattern like that. sweatdrop  

[Mule of Liz Sama]

I'm not offended in the least. Thank you for the insight. It is rather strange that myself along with other's that you've known are forming a pattern around this deck. Weird. I suppose once I get some free cash I'll have to go deck searching again. sweatdrop  

[RedRoseSpiral]

I have two tarot decks and a pendulum. One deck was suppose to be my mother's but she didn't like them much and gave them to me (this is the deck I can't find sweatdrop ) and the other was a birthday present a few years ago, an astro-tarot deck. I use that deck ever once and awhile. It's been pretty accurate over the years. More so when I read for other people than when I read for myself. I'm not sure why.

My pendulum wasn't even suppose to be a pendulum at first. It was just a pretty pendulum shaped necklace my mom's best friend gave me for a birthday. My mom was telling me about pendulum's one day and I remembered the necklace and tried it. Funny thing was, the person who told her and gave her a pendulum was the friend who gave me the necklace and had given the first deck of tarot cards to my mom.

I've been thinking about using rune stones. I'm not sure though. Truthfully, they intimidate me a bit. But I feel it's worth a try.