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 Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:18 pm
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Disturbed Otaku Suteki Kagayaki Disturbed Otaku Suteki Kagayaki Grand Chevalier Haji I didn't accept that profile, and I wouldn't have If I was the mod looking it over. The thing is i'm of those mods who's tough. I don't let things pass just because. while other mods see something that shouldn't pass but let it go through I wouldn't let it through until its changed. You weren't on my bad side at all, but now you are. For the fact that you don't listen and instead just quit at the first sign of resistance. Don't forget YOU called me here to look over your profile. And I happily did it, But since you've given up you have basically wasted my time. Please Change your attitude before re applying are your gonna have lots of problems getting this through. All the issues we brought are only issues because you think they are. The things we brought up could be easily fixed if you just took the time to listen to us and do what we ask. We aren't out to get you its not Mods vs Suteki.
But from now on Konohagakure is Officially Closed.(( Only to Profiles posted after this announcement)) What you've been doing is having me go over things so trivial that it doesn't need to be done. Something that people call you is either a nickname or a title and since they're too young to have a title they have a nick name. It's a mask so no one knows whether its a male or not because a hyuuga hasn't stopped to use byakugan and look. I know im on your bad side because it started off on your bad side some how and im trying to figure out why. All the issues you brought up are issues you had to think they were issues to even bring them up in the first place. It is mods vs suteki if you sit back look over how trivial the things you wanted me to change were. Like fear for example. There are people including myself in the world who don't fear a thing. Want to know why? Because if it's going to happen it's going to happen. Everything must run along it's course. You're not a mod who's tough and please don't think that. You're a mod that's being unrealistic. If you want to view it as me who wasted you're time then im sorry but I can't pull the blindfold off of your eyes. I fixed legitimate things then wouldn't back down over trivial things. Three separate times. At that point I saw it as useless as it's just not realistic at that point. It is what it is. I'm not a mod, but if people are asking you to change things that are so "trivial" then just change them for the sake of avoiding an argument >_> Because it's retarded to even have to change them in the first place. Doesn't matter how retarded you think something is. Rules are still rules. Everyone has to follow the same ones. Even if you don't care about the rules, as I said, you should just follow them for the sake of avoiding arguments like the one you are in right now.
point me to a rule that states I have to have a name instead of an alias
point me to a rule that states I have to have fears
point me to a rule that forces me to determine the sex of my character
point me to a rule that states the second time it's going to be nit picked by the very people that approved the profile the first time when nothing has changed with it. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:22 pm
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Suteki Kagayaki Disturbed Otaku Suteki Kagayaki Disturbed Otaku Suteki Kagayaki What you've been doing is having me go over things so trivial that it doesn't need to be done. Something that people call you is either a nickname or a title and since they're too young to have a title they have a nick name. It's a mask so no one knows whether its a male or not because a hyuuga hasn't stopped to use byakugan and look. I know im on your bad side because it started off on your bad side some how and im trying to figure out why. All the issues you brought up are issues you had to think they were issues to even bring them up in the first place. It is mods vs suteki if you sit back look over how trivial the things you wanted me to change were. Like fear for example. There are people including myself in the world who don't fear a thing. Want to know why? Because if it's going to happen it's going to happen. Everything must run along it's course. You're not a mod who's tough and please don't think that. You're a mod that's being unrealistic. If you want to view it as me who wasted you're time then im sorry but I can't pull the blindfold off of your eyes. I fixed legitimate things then wouldn't back down over trivial things. Three separate times. At that point I saw it as useless as it's just not realistic at that point. It is what it is. I'm not a mod, but if people are asking you to change things that are so "trivial" then just change them for the sake of avoiding an argument >_> Because it's retarded to even have to change them in the first place. Doesn't matter how retarded you think something is. Rules are still rules. Everyone has to follow the same ones. Even if you don't care about the rules, as I said, you should just follow them for the sake of avoiding arguments like the one you are in right now. point me to a rule that states I have to have a name instead of an alias point me to a rule that states I have to have fears point me to a rule that forces me to determine the sex of my character point me to a rule that states the second time it's going to be nit picked by the very people that approved the profile the first time when nothing has changed with it.
Common sense that everyone has a name.
This is copy and pasted from the profile skeleton about fears.
{Minimum of two, must be practical.}
You have to have a sex. Everyone has a freaking sex. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:26 pm
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Disturbed Otaku Suteki Kagayaki Disturbed Otaku Suteki Kagayaki Disturbed Otaku Suteki Kagayaki What you've been doing is having me go over things so trivial that it doesn't need to be done. Something that people call you is either a nickname or a title and since they're too young to have a title they have a nick name. It's a mask so no one knows whether its a male or not because a hyuuga hasn't stopped to use byakugan and look. I know im on your bad side because it started off on your bad side some how and im trying to figure out why. All the issues you brought up are issues you had to think they were issues to even bring them up in the first place. It is mods vs suteki if you sit back look over how trivial the things you wanted me to change were. Like fear for example. There are people including myself in the world who don't fear a thing. Want to know why? Because if it's going to happen it's going to happen. Everything must run along it's course. You're not a mod who's tough and please don't think that. You're a mod that's being unrealistic. If you want to view it as me who wasted you're time then im sorry but I can't pull the blindfold off of your eyes. I fixed legitimate things then wouldn't back down over trivial things. Three separate times. At that point I saw it as useless as it's just not realistic at that point. It is what it is. I'm not a mod, but if people are asking you to change things that are so "trivial" then just change them for the sake of avoiding an argument >_> Because it's retarded to even have to change them in the first place. Doesn't matter how retarded you think something is. Rules are still rules. Everyone has to follow the same ones. Even if you don't care about the rules, as I said, you should just follow them for the sake of avoiding arguments like the one you are in right now. point me to a rule that states I have to have a name instead of an alias point me to a rule that states I have to have fears point me to a rule that forces me to determine the sex of my character point me to a rule that states the second time it's going to be nit picked by the very people that approved the profile the first time when nothing has changed with it. Common sense that everyone has a name. This is copy and pasted from the profile skeleton about fears. {Minimum of two, must be practical.} You have to have a sex. Everyone has a freaking sex.
Genius, if someone has a name but never gives a name then their name is not known now is it? No, they are given an alias by those who know of them.
That's taken from the profile but does it say it's a must? No. Again the first time it was approved a couple days ago.
If a person is covered from head to toe in clothing that's large as well as a mask then what are they? Male or female? You don't know now do you?
Do not quote me again as i've been yelled at by sergeants and specialists all day due to something thats not my damned fault so I don't need your guys crap as well. You guys want me banned. Fine tracking job well done. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:21 pm
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Suteki Kagayaki Disturbed Otaku Suteki Kagayaki Disturbed Otaku Suteki Kagayaki What you've been doing is having me go over things so trivial that it doesn't need to be done. Something that people call you is either a nickname or a title and since they're too young to have a title they have a nick name. It's a mask so no one knows whether its a male or not because a hyuuga hasn't stopped to use byakugan and look. I know im on your bad side because it started off on your bad side some how and im trying to figure out why. All the issues you brought up are issues you had to think they were issues to even bring them up in the first place. It is mods vs suteki if you sit back look over how trivial the things you wanted me to change were. Like fear for example. There are people including myself in the world who don't fear a thing. Want to know why? Because if it's going to happen it's going to happen. Everything must run along it's course. You're not a mod who's tough and please don't think that. You're a mod that's being unrealistic. If you want to view it as me who wasted you're time then im sorry but I can't pull the blindfold off of your eyes. I fixed legitimate things then wouldn't back down over trivial things. Three separate times. At that point I saw it as useless as it's just not realistic at that point. It is what it is. I'm not a mod, but if people are asking you to change things that are so "trivial" then just change them for the sake of avoiding an argument >_> Because it's retarded to even have to change them in the first place. Doesn't matter how retarded you think something is. Rules are still rules. Everyone has to follow the same ones. Even if you don't care about the rules, as I said, you should just follow them for the sake of avoiding arguments like the one you are in right now. point me to a rule that states I have to have a name instead of an alias point me to a rule that states I have to have fears point me to a rule that forces me to determine the sex of my character point me to a rule that states the second time it's going to be nit picked by the very people that approved the profile the first time when nothing has changed with it.
Nothing in that skeleton is an option. It is in their because it is needed either to help determine your overall character, or to aid in development. Rule of thumb is that if it was added and made a part of the profile then it was important enough to do so.
and these are not the very same people who approved it the first time. We have had a grand addition and alteration of the moderator crew team, including a new captain, that is designed to be a fair and balanced team for all members of the guild. If this was approved previously, i apologize. Recently i am very proud of the"approval" moderator team for the hard work, team work, and problem solving when it comes to questions. We have set a new set of standards, to allow for fairness and ease of roleplay.
a** stated by Haji, please follow his ruling on the matter as he has my support. Any more arguin in this thread will result in a strike |
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:41 pm
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:53 pm
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:13 pm
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:17 pm
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Grand Chevalier Haji Hadaka Kyoujin Grand Chevalier Haji Second Personal Denied: We have Bukijutsu that train your hearing, but your personal surpasses even those and those Bukijutsu techniques can only be learned by jounin. Second we don't allow repeated increases every time you rank up. When was originally? How long ago? And which Captain was it? Cause we have a new one. But whichever captain accepted it he was wrong to do so either way. We have changed the way we accepted profiles recently so all acceptances from before (Don't know how long ago your talking about) are null and void. If its recently its still not accepted despite what the captain said.
I feel greatly annoyed by the fact that you are questioning the Captain's (ANY of the Captains) decision-making skills. Anyway. I'm about to tell you something that will either make you accept the Personal or you will completely ignore anyway. If it happens to be the latter, then I will quit the guild because I do not want the chance that we may have another heated argument about something, even a trivial matter. Anyway. Here it is. Take it or leave it.
The reason why he has a boost in his other senses is because of his loss of his sense of taste. As you may know from blind people, the loss of a sense greatly increases the other senses. There also happens to be the fact that even if there may be Buki that help upgrade hearing, there is none that upgrade the other senses, and no other Ninja Art that increases senses period, so, if one happened to not be able to learn a Buki style, they would be at a loss against one who could and whom decided to train with that particular Buki that increased their hearing. I find this to be a little unfair, honestly, even if the hearing is only increased a smidgen.
That is my statement. If you do not agree with it, then I shall take my leave. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:25 pm
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Hadaka Kyoujin I feel greatly annoyed by the fact that you are questioning the Captain's (ANY of the Captains) decision-making skills. Anyway. I'm about to tell you something that will either make you accept the Personal or you will completely ignore anyway. If it happens to be the latter, then I will quit the guild because I do not want the chance that we may have another heated argument about something, even a trivial matter. Anyway. Here it is. Take it or leave it.
The reason why he has a boost in his other senses is because of his loss of his sense of taste. As you may know from blind people, the loss of a sense greatly increases the other senses. There also happens to be the fact that even if there may be Buki that help upgrade hearing, there is none that upgrade the other senses, and no other Ninja Art that increases senses period, so, if one happened to not be able to learn a Buki style, they would be at a loss against one who could and whom decided to train with that particular Buki that increased their hearing. I find this to be a little unfair, honestly, even if the hearing is only increased a smidgen.
That is my statement. If you do not agree with it, then I shall take my leave.
Excuse me, but I decided to take a look at your second personal, since you seem very firm on getting it accepted. Of all the senses, taste would be incredibly useless, and wouldn't affect the other senses as greatly as losing, say, hearing or sight. No one relies on taste, as they do the other four, and the increases you get just for losing taste are really unbalanced. Honestly, I just suggest making another personal, or getting rid of one of the more important senses to make the sacrifice fair. And maybe, Haji will be more willing (or any others approving of this profile) to approve it.
Don't make this silly personal become a useless argument, we've had enough of those already. Things have changed, rules have changed, and reconstructions with the systems and how things work around here have taken place. So just do what the top dogs tell you, it makes things easier for others, and will relieve the crew/vice/captain of unnecessary headaches. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:34 pm
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Kai Takahashi Dun Hadaka Kyoujin I feel greatly annoyed by the fact that you are questioning the Captain's (ANY of the Captains) decision-making skills. Anyway. I'm about to tell you something that will either make you accept the Personal or you will completely ignore anyway. If it happens to be the latter, then I will quit the guild because I do not want the chance that we may have another heated argument about something, even a trivial matter. Anyway. Here it is. Take it or leave it.
The reason why he has a boost in his other senses is because of his loss of his sense of taste. As you may know from blind people, the loss of a sense greatly increases the other senses. There also happens to be the fact that even if there may be Buki that help upgrade hearing, there is none that upgrade the other senses, and no other Ninja Art that increases senses period, so, if one happened to not be able to learn a Buki style, they would be at a loss against one who could and whom decided to train with that particular Buki that increased their hearing. I find this to be a little unfair, honestly, even if the hearing is only increased a smidgen.
That is my statement. If you do not agree with it, then I shall take my leave. Excuse me, but I decided to take a look at your second personal, since you seem very firm on getting it accepted. Of all the senses, taste would be incredibly useless, and wouldn't affect the other senses as greatly as losing, say, hearing or sight. No one relies on taste, as they do the other four, and the increases you get just for losing taste are really unbalanced. Honestly, I just suggest making another personal, or getting rid of one of the more important senses to make the sacrifice fair. And maybe, Haji will be more willing (or any others approving of this profile) to approve it. :3
Don't make this silly personal become a useless argument, we've had enough of those already. Things have changed, rules have changed, and reconstructions with the systems and how things work around here have taken place. So just do what the top dogs tell you, it makes things easier for others, and will relieve the crew/vice/captain of unnecessary headaches.
This is just a question I'm asking now, as I no longer have any desire to be a part of this guild with so many unwilling to accept my terms: How does one gain greater senses by losing touch, hearing, smell, or sight than they would of taste? They are all equal senses used as equally as the others, thus the increase in the other senses would be the same as the loss of hearing or the loss of sight.
Plus, this no longer was an issue about the Personal itself, but rather the fact that people are *greatly* disagreeing with me while trying to give me no choice *but* to change something I'm doing. I've already had issues with that twice before in this guild, and have quit both times because of it. However, those times were after a heated argument, which I wish to avoid this time around. Thus, I gave an ultimatum; accept my Attribute or I leave. Now that it has become obvious that no one will accept, I'm leaving.
I will continue this discussion purely for the benefit of learning why you would think the loss of taste and equal increase in senses as any other loss is unbalanced, but any attempts to dissuade me or persuade me into changing my Attribute will be ignored. After this discussion is over, I will leave. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:37 pm
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Hadaka Kyoujin Grand Chevalier Haji Hadaka Kyoujin Grand Chevalier Haji Second Personal Denied: We have Bukijutsu that train your hearing, but your personal surpasses even those and those Bukijutsu techniques can only be learned by jounin. Second we don't allow repeated increases every time you rank up. When was originally? How long ago? And which Captain was it? Cause we have a new one. But whichever captain accepted it he was wrong to do so either way. We have changed the way we accepted profiles recently so all acceptances from before (Don't know how long ago your talking about) are null and void. If its recently its still not accepted despite what the captain said.
The reason why he has a boost in his other senses is because of his loss of his sense of taste. As you may know from blind people, the loss of a sense greatly increases the other senses. There also happens to be the fact that even if there may be Buki that help upgrade hearing, there is none that upgrade the other senses, and no other Ninja Art that increases senses period, so, if one happened to not be able to learn a Buki style, they would be at a loss against one who could and whom decided to train with that particular Buki that increased their hearing. I find this to be a little unfair, honestly, even if the hearing is only increased a smidgen.
That is my statement. If you do not agree with it, then I shall take my leave.
I'm sorry you feel that way, but being captain doesn't mean you are always correct. That is why mods are here as well. As a sort of checks and balances, you could say.
But from what I've been taught is that a person senses do not gain superhuman abilities by simply losing another sense. But that our senses are a already sensitive yet we do not rely on them enough to use them to their full potential because we have the other senses, but when we lose a sense we begin to rely on the others more thus we finally realize just how sensitive the others are.
I'm very sorry we couldn't work something out, but there's really no way I could accept such a personal with our new regulations.
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EDIT:
After speaking with other mods, we have decided on a compromise
"you can tell him that a sensory increase is fine. but those ranges are funky and do not go up in rank"
There you have it Sir, this is the best we can offer. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:51 pm
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:55 pm
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:00 pm
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Avedis Huehue Angelus  ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬┤|ρ є r ѕ σ η α ℓ • ∂ α т α|├▬
Full Name: Kakeru Hitoshimaru
Nickname: N/A
Age: 20
Birthdate: Unknown
Gender: Male
Height: 5' 10"
Weight: 164 lbs
Nindo: "All Life is meant to be lived to it's fullest."
Personality: Kakeru is in a way a peace keeper of sorts, he likes nature and animals to some extent, but enjoys life as a whole. He doesn't take it for granted. He's a bit of a flirt when it comes down to girls who he views as attractive, but is very kind and generous. Despite his care for life around him, he will not hesitate in a fight if someone close to him, or if someone he feels he must protect is in danger.
Village: Konohagakure
Rank: Genin
First Class: Ninjutsu Class
Second Class: Ninjutsu Class
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Chakra Pool: 460
Stamina Pool: 50
Chakra Element: Wind, Earth
Chakra Color: Green
Chakra Materialization: Leaves
Strengths:
• Versatility
• Ninjutsu
Weaknesses:
• Being unable to use ninjutsu
• Care for life
Fears:
• Killing
• Injuring someone enough for them to be virtually dead.
Class Disciplines :
• Elemental Specialist: You are only able to have one (1) chosen chakra element. Your elemental ninjutsu possess greater power, allowing them to overwhelm techniques of the same element and rank, and preventing them from succumbing to elemental weaknesses. You begin with two (2) additional ninjutsu slots, and earn an additional three (3) ninjutsu slots whenever you rank up.
[+1 Element for Ninjutsu Class Specialization]
Reductions:
• N/A
Personal Attributes:
• Special Training: Because of the specialized training Kakeru went through, as opposed to learning about genjutsu, he learned more about Taijutsu. So giving up genjutsu he is able to currently learn, as well as any future genjutsu he would be able to learn he has ONE taijutsu style.
• Ninjutsu Expert: Learns Ninjutsu 2 posts faster.
• Strong Body: Because of his training in Taijutsu, his body is naturally stronger than a normal Ninjutsu Specialist's body.
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Ryo: 両0000
AC: 0000
Missions Complete:
D Rank :: 0
C Rank :: 0
B Rank :: 0
A Rank :: 0
S Rank :: 0
Limitations:
• Ninjutsu : : 00 / 08 [Per Element]
• Genjutsu : : 00 / 00
• Taijutsu Styles: : 00 / 01
• Bukijutsu Styles: : 00 / 00
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• N/A
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▬▬┤|N i n j u t s u
Maruton:
• Henge no Jutsu [ Transformation Technique ]
• Kawarimi no Jutsu [ Substitution Technique ]
• Genso Bushin no Jutsu [ Illusion Clone Technique ]
• Suimen Hokou no Waza [ Act of Water Surface Walking ]
• Kinobori no Waza [ Act of Tree Climbing ]
• Kai [ Release ]
Fuuton
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Doton
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▬▬┤|T a i j u t s u
{Style name here}
• {Stage progression / techniques learned}
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Kakeru grew up fairly normal to some extent. He cared for his sick ex-shinobi mother, who had also taught him most of what he knew. His mother died from her sickness very recently, his caring for her is the reason he is only recently becoming a shinobi. He doesn't carry around weapons, as he believes weapons are the most harmful thing usable by people, and doesn't like harming people too much.[Re-Submitted with Extra Personal Attribute because of bloodlineless]
Just a reminder there is still this profile. |
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