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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:57 pm
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Having been chosen for CC more than once, I'll be straightforward (JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, ROFL) when I say the topic definitely makes me cringe. Should I feel guilty for having won however many times I have in that category personally? To me, that's essentially saying "GOSH [insert name here], YOU DIDN'T WIN BECAUSE YOU MATCHED YOUR SOQ PAIRS UP NICELY, YOU WON BECAUSE OF FAVORITISM [dun dun daaaah]". And I don't think anybody likes having that word tossed in their faces (NOT THAT THERE'S BEEN FINGERPOINTING, clearing that up right now).
Recently, for example, Lady Luck and Voltaire won their second breeding. Which, again, was in the CC category. When they first entered, BOTH King and Antigra had them in their choice list (Antigra raffled, King straight up chose). Knowing Antigra had a fondness for the pair (else why would she have picked them to raffle between in the first go 'round? I trust her to pick things she's inspired to color/edit when it comes to breeding, not who the breeding is for, just as I trust the other colorists to do the same), we [myself and Voltaire's owners] intentionally made sure to enter them in her raffle, when we decided they should breed again. Was it bad that they were indeed picked, and won a second CC? Should they be banned from the category because one or more colorist decided they liked the pairing? I feel like I need to put a label on them now, COLORIST, DON'T CHOOSE THIS PAIR OK??
I was honestly over the moon on any occasion a Soquili of mine was involved in a CC. It made me prideful that I (along with my cohorts in crime) had been able to put together a pair that not only we liked, but that a colorist liked so much they wanted to pluck them from the list and do them on principle of liking their appearance together.
That being said, I DO know what it's like to be on the other end of the spectrum, and to have to wait over and over and over and over again until that TINY speck of chance might fall upon one of my pairings to win a long-awaited breeding. And it's not fun. AT ALL. So I can definitely sympathize, and yes, it'd be awesome if more Low Luck was done, I totally agree. MR. GORBACHEV, TEAR DOWN THAT LIST and all that jazz, but at the same time... cut the colorists a break and let them choose to color what they feel like coloring? Like King said earlier, if this is about staff... well, staff can trade with staff and do staffly things, they don't have any reason to need to use raffles as their way of getting each other some breedings. If someone just happens to have a knack for pairing up some good lookin' couples... why should they be essentially punished for that?
Rhea Hyuga I was also thinking that perhaps bribed breedings should be counted in your monthly limit of two breedings?
I have to disagree with this, only because I feel that if someone wants to offer a colorist 1-11 million gold to do a single breeding, that's there right to do so, and should have no say in their ability to take a chance with the 70 or so other couples constantly trying in attempts to win 2 breedings in a single month in raffle style (for a whopping 12k!). It's like a bonus slot, in a sense, if you're willing to shell out that much moola to begin with to obtain a breeding?
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:00 am
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:15 am
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:56 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:15 am
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:17 pm
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I totally agree on the low-luck thing! I also have a couple of pairs actually that myself and my friends have been trying for for several months now. But like others have said, there have been months where one or the other of us wanted to try for a different pair, or just couldn't get online to post in time or whatever.
And I don't think it should take them out of that category when they have STILL been trying for several months - in a row or not. XD;;
I remember recently, I think zoo had a raffle where you could post ANY five months that the couple had been trying for low-luck. That was a great way to do it, but there needs to be a ruling system for it across the board and not just individual colorists deciding "MY low-luck is done this way" and so on. It gets confusing lol
It would also be nice if EVERY breeding raffle had at least a single low-luck slot, guaranteed. It makes it harder for people who do have low luck to get a spot if say ... there are five raffles in a month but only one of them has a low-luck category. And obviously the more people receive breedings out of the low-luck category the less people will be in it and the better chances others will have.
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Also, I have no idea if this was answered somewhere back in the thread and if I'm bringing up a closed topic I'm sorry! But reading over a bit of the first page, I must say I agree with a couple of the things said there.
1. Edits passing down. With SO many Soquili having edits, I really think it's odd to have two fairly heavily edited parents have baskets with little to NO edits at all. I think the system for that needs to be worked on. If people do have heavily edited Soquili, a lot of times the edits are what makes them so special, rather than colors. Cosplays, especially. So it's a bit disheartening to breed two really nice looking cosplays, for example, and get fairly plain babies because under all the edits, the Soquili are just skin-tone and hair colors.
Another possibility (maybe), could be that for any breeding with edited parents, a small extra fee could be added to the breeding to guarantee some kind of edits passing on to babies - which could be an option for the owners of parents to pay. It wouldn't necessarily mean that all the babies would have major edits - there could be a rolling system for how heavy the edits are based on the parents - but then owners would know that they'd get nicely edited babies from heavily edited parents.
2. Ancestors in breeding. For this, I would suggest doing things a bit like SoA does it. Have the OPTION for throwbacks on the breeding form - so that the owners of the Soquili have to hunt down ancestors and put in links to them if they want that. And if not, they don't have to do it. It would mean that none of the staff has to keep track of that sort of thing and it would add a lot of fun into breedings that have multiple ancestors, for both owners and colorists.
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Thought of something else! Bribes. And I know this is for breeding things, but really this is kinda my opinion on the Bribe system as a whole. I realize the way it is now ... part of it is probably to ensure that colorists get their work done before they take on extra.
BUT. That's not Bribes. That's extra slots. Which basically work just like normal slots but cost more.
Bribes should be BRIBES. Available anytime that people have the gold to offer for them. A bribe means you pay someone to do work out of turn, generally. Not that you pay them more to do work they could normally do when they've finished all their other work and not before.
So ... my suggestion. The bribe system as it is, make it "Extras" or something else of that nature - and leave it as being one of the only ways to get mutants, etc - because those are special. But ALSO, allow real bribes. Allow colorists to be open for bribes whenever they feel they have the extra time and not only every so many months after this and after that other thing. That way, people who do save up and have the gold to offer for bribes wouldn't be stuck waiting for slots just like everyone else is waiting for slots and continually not winning slots because there's such a limited number and they don't open very often.
I realize there are ways to abuse a system like I'm talking about ... but are the staff here all that likely to abuse it? I don't really think so. Everyone wants to make more money. And allowing colorists to take bribes whenever they can/want to would also allow more chances for people to offer them bribes and get those extra special nice customs and breedings that they want.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:04 am
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:27 am
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:00 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:43 pm
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:12 pm
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:22 pm
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:51 pm
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:29 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:25 am
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