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Areashine

Interesting Lunatic

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:52 am


I agree that the government needs to crack down and actually follow-up on who receives welfare instead of just throwing a bunch of money around.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:11 am


We have a low income housing facility by me, don't get me wrong, when people need a hand I think we should give it to them, but just for a while. In this low income housing place there is drugs, shootings, something going on all the time. What I can't understand is "why do they continue to let them live there"???????If you mess up, out you go. I had a friend that lived in the senior part of this facility and she had to move because she became so afraid of everything going on. Now tell me this, where is the fairness in that, they get all the help and the decent people can't get any. It is our taxes that pay for them to live there, most of them rent free. It's based on your income as to what you pay, and of course none of them work so they don't have to pay. I for one am tired of the way things are run in this country. No one is held accountable for their actions that's why they continue to do what they do. If they had to sign a contract when they were given this place to live, that they would follow the rules then you can stay, but you mess us and out you go, then let someone who really need the help and will try to help themselves can stay. We have a double standard in this country. Shame............................. crying

Miss Abigal of Lenox


Noir Resurection

Wealthy Tycoon

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:10 pm


One thing that I have also noticed is that many of the people that live in housing also tend to get brand new cars. And not a small economic car worth about 10k or so. They get huge suv and trucks worth over 35k at times. They just need to go by and kick them all out for that stuff as well.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:45 pm


Oh how I agree with you both, Miss Abigal and Noir. I must go, this makes me so depressed and then I just get angry.

Amarella Harte


MojinR

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:20 pm


Decent, working class people usually get the shaft when it comes to life general. I've known of people, usually women that have had kids, to lay around collecting government checks and living in free housing. They refuse to look for a job and yet some of it is understandable. The system helps create a dependency for the unemployed and underemployed suffer worse.

Why? The underemployed often can't receive welfare and yet can't make ends met like those unemployed and on welfare. Companies take advantage of the bad economy and low job market, especially in densely populated city areas were many undereducated individuals live, to grant piss poor wages and horrible hours. After all, for the few to make money in captialism, they many have to receive the shorter end of the stick for their work. So underemployed people usually get stuck in this runt, usually trying to work and provide without welfare or government assistance, and deal the typical stresses of being underpayed and/or overworked while having kids, trying achieve a sense of normalcy and decency we all crave.

The unemployed actually know this and usually this is why they abuse the system. Fact is, without welfare, they won't be able to support their lives or the lives of their children. Added on to the general stress it is for the underemployed to make ends met, especially with children, most choose it is in their best benefit to stay unemployed, constantly pregnant, and ignorant. Then I could talk about the general "culture" of the poor have that supports the mentality. Then I could talk the external factors and the history that generated it. And I could go on and on...but I'm a firm believer that the system is broken on all ends because people on all ends are broken.

I don't support laziness or the abuse of programs however understanding all factors generates a feeling of general depression. Cause it always makes me realize that there is no easy solution, no bill that can be passed, no program cut or abolished, no taxes raised, added, or etc... that will fix the issues, at least not without generating tons more.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:30 am


I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who is fed up with the way things are run. I have written letters, phone calls and what ever it takes, to Washington to let them know where I stand on issues and you should do the same. Write your congressman, representative, governor, right down to the least of them, to let them know what you think, then maybe, sometime, somewhere, they will start listening to the people and doing what they want.

Miss Abigal of Lenox


Areashine

Interesting Lunatic

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:29 pm


MojinR, I'm exactly at the place you are now. It's hard to be clear cut about anything with how people abuse the system, but what about the others that are doing the right thing? It's sad and frustrating.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:32 pm


I know Ven and I wish I had an answer on good the few decent people lodged into the clockwork of the system can do but I just don't know. It seems like all those sayings like "No good deed goes unpunished" and "Nice guys finish last" are all actualized when viewing it from this perspective. Sometimes you can't view from that way though and have force yourself into tunnel vision and focus on your life and what is right and need for you.

MojinR


Feleoness

PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:00 pm


I have to express my outrage too:
My Mom lives in Florida, and has been going through chemo treatments for almost a year now; only has ten more weeks of treatment to go, and her bosses have been trying to make her quit, even though she has done everything she can to make it to work and get her work done. But now they have used the ecsuce of the bad economy to let her go...
and she was turned down for foodstamps and only gets $286 before taxes from unemployment.
Where's the help when the working middle class needs it?
*sad and angry*
PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:59 am


Feleoness
I have to express my outrage too:
My Mom lives in Florida, and has been going through chemo treatments for almost a year now; only has ten more weeks of treatment to go, and her bosses have been trying to make her quit, even though she has done everything she can to make it to work and get her work done. But now they have used the ecsuce of the bad economy to let her go...
and she was turned down for foodstamps and only gets $286 before taxes from unemployment.
Where's the help when the working middle class needs it?
*sad and angry*


I am so sorry about your mom, my mother went through this once too. She had to have surgery and was self employed, so no benefits of any kind and they turned her down for food stamps because she had a little money in the bank, so they punished her for trying to save a little money. That is one thing the government will do, kick you while you are down, but you let foreigners come in here and they get free loans, no interest paid ever, and they can start a business, buy a business, or what ever they want. I, like you am sad and angry at my country, they don't take care of their people, they take care of everyone else. Some day the people are going to get tired of being raked over the coals and fight back.

Miss Abigal of Lenox


Noir Resurection

Wealthy Tycoon

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:25 am


The day the government actually starts going the right way and helping those in need is the day that hell will freeze over. Until then were just going to go through the same bull for years to come.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:52 am


There are times tho when help is available. My brother-in-law, 28 years old, contracted cancer, had no insurance from his job, but was still able to get help. He passed away in '07. He did get assistance, was able to take Chemo and radiology treatments not that they helped that much except to make him sicker. He was able to stay in a community building, at no cost, while he took his treatments. He and my sister had to travel 2 1/2 hours away in order for him to get his treatments.

Oh and by the way, it wasn't the cancer that killed him, but a blood clot that developed because of the Chemo. Sometimes I wonder if we would still have Josh if he hadn't been able to get the help with the cancer treatments he underwent.

MotherMoo


Noir Resurection

Wealthy Tycoon

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:02 am


But theres the twist right there. If you have some serious sickness that more then likely kill you the government rushes in and helps you. WHY? Because they just like to see like the good guys. Oh lets go help someone thats going to die and we will let the public think that were helping out.

Usually the thing with any type of sickness there is help but its not always from the government but other organizations created for that purpose. Thats why there st judes children's hospital, theres cancer treatment retreats all over, and theres others depending on what the condition is, but all of them are from someone that decided to change how things work and not look to the government for help.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:26 pm


I really don't think I want the government to help me, then they are in my business and I don't want them there. I just don't like the two sets of rules that we have, one for Washington and the other one for us. Example, the tax problems that those nominated by Mr. Obama, how many years since some of them had paid their taxes, 4 years for some of them. If I had let my taxes go for 4 years they would have put me behind bars, took my house and all I own to pay for them. These people did not even have to pay the penalty or any of the interest that these taxes had incurred, that's 2 sets of rules as far as I'm concerned. Until they get the idea that there is only one set of rules, the ones set forth in the constitution, this country will be in trouble. You can't do what they are doing and still remain one of the most powerful nations that ever was, it's down the old tube.

Miss Abigal of Lenox


JupieStarPower6

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:57 pm


I agree with you Miss Abigail. I have been writing to my congressmen about these issues and illegal immigration. They don't respond at all. It is really sad and annoying. As in the constitution, it is supposed to be the people that run the gov't, not the gov't running the people. I feel as if they do not listen to us at all and do what they want just for their own gain, wealth and power. I wish something would be done about this, but it doesn't look like it will anytime soon. You're right, this country is going down the tubes. confused
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