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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:33 am
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Aino Ailill Calixti RuisRaven, the use of the word "gypsy" is inappropriate. It's an ethnic slur against the Rroma, against the TOS of Gaia, offensive, and not allowed in this guild. Please remove it from your post. And as for telling people to do the research themselves: no. You made the claim, therefore the burden of proof is on you. In short, put up or shut up. Would the use of the term be offensive if used to refer to characters who are called such? I'm thinking Notre Dame, Disney Version.
THAT MOVIE NEEDS TO DIAF. HATE HATE HAAAAAATE.
In such a context, I usually refer to the character by name, and if someone's unfamiliar with what I'm talking about, I take it as a teaching moment ("Hugo refers to her as a g~ because that's what the French called them but the proper word is Rroma, and g~ is an ethnic slur that I'd prefer you not use") in a way. Similar to the n-word in Huckleberry Finn, only that generally doesn't require a teaching moment as most people KNOW why that word is unacceptable. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:37 am
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Calixti Aino Ailill Calixti RuisRaven, the use of the word "gypsy" is inappropriate. It's an ethnic slur against the Rroma, against the TOS of Gaia, offensive, and not allowed in this guild. Please remove it from your post. And as for telling people to do the research themselves: no. You made the claim, therefore the burden of proof is on you. In short, put up or shut up. Would the use of the term be offensive if used to refer to characters who are called such? I'm thinking Notre Dame, Disney Version. THAT MOVIE NEEDS TO DIAF. HATE HATE HAAAAAATE.
But the beautiful music! gonk
Quote: In such a context, I usually refer to the character by name, and if someone's unfamiliar with what I'm talking about, I take it as a teaching moment ("Hugo refers to her as a g~ because that's what the French called them but the proper word is Rroma, and g~ is an ethnic slur that I'd prefer you not use") in a way. Similar to the n-word in Huckleberry Finn, only that generally doesn't require a teaching moment as most people KNOW why that word is unacceptable.
Okay. I hadn't known it was a slur but I will remove it from my vocabulary now that I do. Thank you for the information. <3 |
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:40 am
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Collowrath Celeblin Galadeneryn That's a Slavic construction, though the exact language escapes me. It's Serbian. smile
Quote: Quote: He's a ******** Slav. You really only have to go into why they call them "Slavs" to see why this "My heritage was more ******** than yours" bullshit isn't going to work. Hint for RuisRaven, look up the etymology of the word "Slave" and the history of chattel slavery in particular to see the problem here. Then look up some things about the history of the Balkans during the Turkish invasions, and particularly within the past 200~ years. Then look up Magyarization, and the meanings of words like "genocide" and "ethnic-cleansing." confused |
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:41 am
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Aino Ailill Calixti Aino Ailill Calixti RuisRaven, the use of the word "gypsy" is inappropriate. It's an ethnic slur against the Rroma, against the TOS of Gaia, offensive, and not allowed in this guild. Please remove it from your post. And as for telling people to do the research themselves: no. You made the claim, therefore the burden of proof is on you. In short, put up or shut up. Would the use of the term be offensive if used to refer to characters who are called such? I'm thinking Notre Dame, Disney Version. THAT MOVIE NEEDS TO DIAF. HATE HATE HAAAAAATE. But the beautiful music! gonk
Quote: Quote: In such a context, I usually refer to the character by name, and if someone's unfamiliar with what I'm talking about, I take it as a teaching moment ("Hugo refers to her as a g~ because that's what the French called them but the proper word is Rroma, and g~ is an ethnic slur that I'd prefer you not use") in a way. Similar to the n-word in Huckleberry Finn, only that generally doesn't require a teaching moment as most people KNOW why that word is unacceptable. Okay. I hadn't known it was a slur but I will remove it from my vocabulary now that I do. Thank you for the information. <3 |
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:45 am
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:48 am
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Calixti Aino Ailill Calixti Aino Ailill Calixti RuisRaven, the use of the word "gypsy" is inappropriate. It's an ethnic slur against the Rroma, against the TOS of Gaia, offensive, and not allowed in this guild. Please remove it from your post. And as for telling people to do the research themselves: no. You made the claim, therefore the burden of proof is on you. In short, put up or shut up. Would the use of the term be offensive if used to refer to characters who are called such? I'm thinking Notre Dame, Disney Version. THAT MOVIE NEEDS TO DIAF. HATE HATE HAAAAAATE. But the beautiful music! gonk But the turning Phoebus into a "good guy" and inventing an entirely new character so that Frollo could be irredeemably evil and making Quasimodo gentle and intelligent and completely destroying the ending and leaving out Esmerelda's mother and Phoebus' girlfriend and aging up Esmerelda so the Phoebus/Esmerelda romance wasn't creepy and gross and obviously him taking advantage of her naivete and WRONG! gonk
Don't even get me started on how they mascaraed the story of Hurcules. Though "who puts the glad in gladiator" verse makes me crack up. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:48 am
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:50 am
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Calixti Aino Ailill Calixti Aino Ailill Calixti RuisRaven, the use of the word "gypsy" is inappropriate. It's an ethnic slur against the Rroma, against the TOS of Gaia, offensive, and not allowed in this guild. Please remove it from your post. And as for telling people to do the research themselves: no. You made the claim, therefore the burden of proof is on you. In short, put up or shut up. Would the use of the term be offensive if used to refer to characters who are called such? I'm thinking Notre Dame, Disney Version. THAT MOVIE NEEDS TO DIAF. HATE HATE HAAAAAATE. But the beautiful music! gonk But the turning Phoebus into a "good guy" and inventing an entirely new character so that Frollo could be irredeemably evil and making Quasimodo gentle and intelligent and completely destroying the ending and leaving out Esmerelda's mother and Phoebus' girlfriend and aging up Esmerelda so the Phoebus/Esmerelda romance wasn't creepy and gross and obviously him taking advantage of her naivete and WRONG! gonk
It's Disney, it's what they do. :3
I didn't see Frollo as irredeemably evil. He was psychotic. He had visions of grandeur but was a contradiction to himself, not being pure due to his lust, which weighed on him. He had hallucinations. I felt sorry for him. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:50 am
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Celeblin Galadeneryn rmcdra R M C Dra in da house. *starts the turntables to scratch records on* In all seriousness though. rmcdra is reference to a story I am working on and a Mr. Dark event I had back when I was a Fluffy Neo-Pagan. It stands for Robert McDra, the main antagonist who becomes a hero by the end of the story. I'm still on Chapter 1 right now so it's going to be a while. And now we know all your secrets *cackles evilly*
Yes I've come to accept that I have no poker face. I can email a rough draft of the first Chapter for those that are interested. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:55 am
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rmcdra Calixti Aino Ailill Calixti Aino Ailill Calixti RuisRaven, the use of the word "gypsy" is inappropriate. It's an ethnic slur against the Rroma, against the TOS of Gaia, offensive, and not allowed in this guild. Please remove it from your post. And as for telling people to do the research themselves: no. You made the claim, therefore the burden of proof is on you. In short, put up or shut up. Would the use of the term be offensive if used to refer to characters who are called such? I'm thinking Notre Dame, Disney Version. THAT MOVIE NEEDS TO DIAF. HATE HATE HAAAAAATE. But the beautiful music! gonk But the turning Phoebus into a "good guy" and inventing an entirely new character so that Frollo could be irredeemably evil and making Quasimodo gentle and intelligent and completely destroying the ending and leaving out Esmerelda's mother and Phoebus' girlfriend and aging up Esmerelda so the Phoebus/Esmerelda romance wasn't creepy and gross and obviously him taking advantage of her naivete and WRONG! gonk Don't even get me started on how they mascaraed the story of Hurcules. Though "who puts the glad in gladiator" verse makes me crack up.
I tend to enjoy Disney. As long as one keeps in mind that they took a story and completely twisted it, the music is generally awesome and the dialogue amusing.
And Hades? Wicked cool. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:56 am
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rmcdra Celeblin Galadeneryn rmcdra R M C Dra in da house. *starts the turntables to scratch records on* In all seriousness though. rmcdra is reference to a story I am working on and a Mr. Dark event I had back when I was a Fluffy Neo-Pagan. It stands for Robert McDra, the main antagonist who becomes a hero by the end of the story. I'm still on Chapter 1 right now so it's going to be a while. And now we know all your secrets *cackles evilly* Yes I've come to accept that I have no poker face. I can email a rough draft of the first Chapter for those that are interested.
I'm interested. ninja |
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:57 am
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rmcdra Calixti Aino Ailill Calixti Aino Ailill Would the use of the term be offensive if used to refer to characters who are called such? I'm thinking Notre Dame, Disney Version. THAT MOVIE NEEDS TO DIAF. HATE HATE HAAAAAATE. But the beautiful music! gonk But the turning Phoebus into a "good guy" and inventing an entirely new character so that Frollo could be irredeemably evil and making Quasimodo gentle and intelligent and completely destroying the ending and leaving out Esmerelda's mother and Phoebus' girlfriend and aging up Esmerelda so the Phoebus/Esmerelda romance wasn't creepy and gross and obviously him taking advantage of her naivete and WRONG! gonk Don't even get me started on how they mascaraed the story of Hurcules. Though "who puts the glad in gladiator" verse makes me crack up.
Aino Ailil It's Disney, it's what they do. :3 Quote: I didn't see Frollo as irredeemably evil. He was psychotic. He had visions of grandeur but was a contradiction to himself, not being pure due to his lust, which weighed on him. He had hallucinations. I felt sorry for him. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:59 am
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Aino Ailill rmcdra Calixti Aino Ailill Calixti stressed THAT MOVIE NEEDS TO DIAF. HATE HATE HAAAAAATE. But the beautiful music! gonk But the turning Phoebus into a "good guy" and inventing an entirely new character so that Frollo could be irredeemably evil and making Quasimodo gentle and intelligent and completely destroying the ending and leaving out Esmerelda's mother and Phoebus' girlfriend and aging up Esmerelda so the Phoebus/Esmerelda romance wasn't creepy and gross and obviously him taking advantage of her naivete and WRONG! gonk Don't even get me started on how they mascaraed the story of Hurcules. Though "who puts the glad in gladiator" verse makes me crack up. I tend to enjoy Disney. As long as one keeps in mind that they took a story and completely twisted it, the music is generally awesome and the dialogue amusing. And Hades? Wicked cool. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:01 am
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Celeblin Galadeneryn Collowrath Celeblin Galadeneryn That's a Slavic construction, though the exact language escapes me. It's Serbian. smile Thank you kindly.
You're welcome. =)
Quote: Yeah. I mean, my clan's existance was ruled illegal by the English Crown, but we didn't ******** go through THAT.
Heh, wrong is wrong - neither situation is better or worse than the other.
Oh great, now I'm gonna go all emo. sweatdrop |
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