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 Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 8:42 pm
That's true... some these kids are rather frightening. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 9:14 pm
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 12:13 am
geez.... that is rediculous.... I wish I could say that it's an isolated incident, but it seems to be happening across the country. standardized testing is crap. and as much as the school districts deny it, they teach to the test, but because a lot of their funding depends upon the scores.
I have a friend who is half way through her phd program in history. in the classes she teaches, she is find alot of college freshman and sophmores who can't write coherent sentences or do short answer questions, essays, book reviews, or research papers. it's just pitiful.
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 1:30 am
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:43 am
At this rate chatspeak may become an actual written language offline...*sighs*
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 11:44 am
Zantriel SilverMoon ...and I am dyslexic, and I only missed two questions, both in higher math, which I never took in high school. (Calc scares me, lol.)... I'm with you on both counts. Plus, I'm from a small, rural (well, that's kind of redundant) school system. No budget, no new books, no computers... but I could damn well read and write when I graduated. And Naito, a couple of students in my friend's have used netspeak on papers in on test. And they actually had the nerve to challenge her on the points that she took off.... and she also had to explain to them that copying and pasting from the internet is still plagerism if you don't cite the source. whee
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:05 pm
Sadly, I've had teachers tell me they are forced to teach to the WASL. And an increasing number of our young crowd really do not know how to read and write appropriately.
Example of this stupid test: Two + two = ?
You get two points for the answer and two points for the explanation... if you answer 4 with no explanation you get 0 points. If you answer 3, but have an explanation they like, you get 2 points. The correct answer and explanation will net you 4 points. WTF ~ explanation w/wrong answer gets you points, but correct answer w/no explanation gets you zip. Isn't getting the correct answer more important...? No wonder we have "graduated idiots."
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 9:35 pm
That's just a scary story. And the thing is that the kid was being nice. Boy, if it had been me I'd have loved the chance to make a fool of my Principle twisted
I'm going to have to put my daughter through the American school system, and the more I hear, the more I understand why people home school. Not an option for me because I'm right-left dyslexic, so I just can't do maths. Zantriel, you really have to warn a girl if your going to use words like calc, it can do serious damage smile !
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 6:20 pm
It was one stupid question on the whole damn test that he didn't answer... What message is that sending to our kids? They can wreak havoc and school and will get in less trouble than they would if they don't answer every question? Some days I really question not only the education, but the morals we're teaching as well.
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 8:30 pm
Morals?.... morals?.... your words are strange to me hu-mon.
You know one of the things that really bothers me, is that schools today have so much more than they did when I was in school..... our school didn't have a computer lab until my senior year in 1985.... and there wasn't alot you could do with them other than word processing and truely crappy graphics.... but now, with the internet, the kids have the real time world at their finger tips. And so many of them seem so apathetic and jaded. I would have like for the school library to have a set of encyclopedias that didn't say "....one day man hopes to walk on the moon..." xp
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 9:37 pm
A computer lab? In my last year at school we finally got a computer (just one). Only the seniors were allowed to even see it, and they interrupted one of our classes to show it off to us, as if it was the crown jewels or something. We weren't allowed to touch it, it wasn't even plugged in. We were just meant to marvel at this monster that was trundled in on two trolleys and needed code to be typed in on audio tape. smile
But yes, you'd think that with computers, the internet and such it would be so much easier to teach the kids, instead it seems to be having the opposite effect. There's just no way that forcing all these tests on kids makes up for it, especially when it just adds more pressure on the teachers to get corporate results rather than focusing on the kids as individuals. The world has just gone mad when you can get the right answer and still get no marks.
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 10:39 pm
Yeah, in grade school, our books were so old; the Korean War was a current event, lol.
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 8:56 pm
[ Message temporarily off-line ]
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 9:27 am
My middle school "Computer Lab" consisted of about 5 Apple IIgs, complete with 5" floppy drives. How state of the art, considering it was the late 1990's. Still, to this day, I can program in BASIC and I'm a master at that TURTLE thing. stare
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 12:25 pm
Clik My middle school "Computer Lab" consisted of about 5 Apple IIgs, complete with 5" floppy drives. How state of the art, considering it was the late 1990's. Still, to this day, I can program in BASIC and I'm a master at that TURTLE thing. stare I use to own a Apple IIGS, wow. The games were ok for the time, but it had some power for the day. After that I had a Apple LC3, then I moved on to none mac's.
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