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thats incorrect. plants derive energy from the sun. people's energy comes from the ingestion of food, moving, etc. if you're at all familiar with energy work, you can see that a person's energy has a completely different feel to it than other energies.

Somewhere inside of me i believe i am a vampire. I am in love with vampires and the darkness.

Oh so I should believe that you can absorb mental energy from other people but not the sun? You're claiming that something off the wall as absorbing energy from the sun is crazy, but absorbing it from people is probable? Pile that on top of the fact that humans already do get some vitamins from the sun, so we can absorb some of it's properties, as well as the fact that the sun releases amounts of energy massively larger than any human ever could, and I find that very hard to believe. If any energy were to be absorbed or 'fed off of' it would be the biggest source of energy we have, the sun. That's like a person claiming if they touch a 9 volt battery to their tongue they can feel it, but being hit by a lighting bolt has no effect. I find that INCREDIBLY hard to believe, and it's no wonder most people don't with reasoning like that. Furthermore, I have been able to feel energy for years, and no matter how much I can feel coming from someone, the sun has always had the largest amount I have ever felt. So in conclusion if we can feel the energy from the sun even without being special, and we can absorb some of it in our everyday lives, why can't you? If you have the power to absorb energy from such a weak source such as a person why not a massively huge source such as the sun?

Oh yeah, and unless you wanna throw science right out the window the energy that comes from people (as if I havn't proved it enough already) is the exact same as the energy coming from the sun. Who was it now that said energy cannot be created or destroyed? Oh yeah, Einstein I believe. I have incredibly sensitive eyes too, and I have a simple solution for it, sunglasses. I'm almost never seen outside without my giorgio armani's.

Well I don't know about the stores where you live but around here it's almost mandatory for sunglasses fo have ultraviolet protection... since that's prettymuch what they are for. Maybe you missed the part about energy, so I'll say it again. Energy doesn't change. It's all the same thing and it all comes from the same place. You say you absorb 'life energy' yet it's still energy coming from food and in turn the sun. It all boils down to electrons and radiation, and it's all the same thing. There isn't different kinds of energy because energy cannot be created or destroyed, so your 'life energy' is the exact same energy coming from the sun, which was the whole point I was getting at.

Hmm, my burn time is about five minutes. I just wear sunscreen when I need to go outside for any real length of time. Even when I was outside every day for hours a day (A.k.a. the tanest I've ever been) my burtime was still fifteen minutes.
Burn time is generally dependant on the shade of your skin, I do beleive. People who avoid the sun, such as yourself... and me for that matter, will naturally burn easier. The more you get in the sun, the longer your burn time will be.


This, I would have to see some evidence of to see.
Getting a third degree burn from the sun would require serrious exposure, even for an albino.
[Third-degree burn
Burn characterized by destruction of both epidermis and dermis.
Burns have charring of the skin, and produce hard, leather-like eschars. An eschar is a scab that has separated from the unaffected part of the body. Frequently, there is also purple fluid. These types of burns are often painless (insensate) because nerve endings have been destroyed in the involved areas.]

In other words, if one of these people were exposed to the sun for even a few seconds, their appearance would be leathery for the rest of their life. They would also require immediate hospitalization.
Hell, even at night they'd be at risk of a first degree burn.



Yes, Ndoki, all energy is basically the same. But what I think Dr490n is saying is that it's like a... windmill. It runs off of, well, wind. It turns the kenetic energy of the wind into electricity via turbines.
Well, some other electircity-prodicing devices, such as water-wheel or a nucular power plant produce the same type of energy through slightly different processes.
If you hit a windmill with a blast of water, it probably wouldn't produce much energy, it would probably just break or get really wet. If you had some nucular fission next to a windmill, it would also not produce energy, it would melt... or something.

While all of these processes produce the same type of energy (electricity), the method and imput are different.
In the case of a regular person, food is used to produce energy. A vampire uses "pranic energy" or, other people's energy, to produce... well, equivalant energy, except usable by the vampire.
(Though technically, both the sun's energy and pranic energy are/would be both be radiative energy, and should still both be able to be absorbed.)

At least, I think that's what he's saying.



Hmm, sunglasses don't help much for me either. The sun has always just bothered my eyes. A lot of people I talk to are like that.


As for "non-agressive" questions. I have a few.

1.Earlier in our discussions, you mentioned "people who refuse to take into account that our[vampiric] sphere of knowledge far outdistances their own"
I would like to know what this sphere of knowledge includes.

2. At one point in time, as I beleive I mentioned, I sort of "cut off" my bodie's ability to produce energy. In order to feel normal, I siphoned energy from other people. (Or, as Ndoki mentioned, the sun)
Since I knew how I deactivated that energy producing ability, I re-activated it.
Do you think it's ptobable that "vampires" are just people who's energy production mechanism malfunctioned? Or that "vampirism" could be cured by re-activating that same mechanism?

3. You've mentioned that there are common traits among a lot of vampires, but a lot of the traits you've mentioned are common among normal people (e.g. Sensetivity to sunlight.)
What, other than the need for pranic energy, are either uniquely vampiric, as in, don't appear in normal humans? Or are dominant traits that identify vampirism, and that aren't commonly found among "regular" humans?

((Also, just to be concise. The sun doesn't directly transfer the Vitamin D. The skin produces it (sort of like photosynthisis) when exposed to sunlight.))

you're sort of right, DieiNoctis, but vampires need the energy produced by the body or the energy contained in blood as more of a supplement. we still eat food, mind you, but it doesnt give us enough energy and doesnt give us a 'full' feeling as much as it's supposed to. bear in mind that even if someone is a vampire, they're still human. the vampire myth is something that has been blowen far out of proportion as a way to control the masses though superstition and the like. some elements of the myths have a loose base in fact but with alot of speculation behind it, while others are entirely a creation of religious fools.

1.Earlier in our discussions, you mentioned "people who refuse to take into account that our[vampiric] sphere of knowledge far outdistances their own"
I would like to know what this sphere of knowledge includes.
this sphere of knowledge includes the knowledge within the community. as an active energyfeeder, i've gained a more intimate knowledge of energy and relationship with the world around me. In addition to this, i've also gained alot of knowledge, through extensive and exhausting research, on history or humanity, and the history of vampires, as well as therians, otherkin, and many other metaphysical things.

2. At one point in time, as I beleive I mentioned, I sort of "cut off" my bodie's ability to produce energy. In order to feel normal, I siphoned energy from other people. (Or, as Ndoki mentioned, the sun)
Since I knew how I deactivated that energy producing ability, I re-activated it.
Do you think it's ptobable that "vampires" are just people who's energy production mechanism malfunctioned? Or that "vampirism" could be cured by re-activating that same mechanism?
Yes. i do believe it's possible. Some theories(which i'm inclined to believe) state that psychic vampirism is caused when one's death is so violent, brutal, and shocking, that theyu do not only sustain physical damage, but they sustain damage to their soul as well. Having been a warrior in most of my lives, if not all of them, It is probable that i have indeed sustained such damage at some point. Another theory states that if one sustains sufficient damage in the afterlife(or whatever one wants to call it), their soul cannot repair itself upon being reincarnated into a new body. Again, this is highly probably in my case.
3. You've mentioned that there are common traits among a lot of vampires, but a lot of the traits you've mentioned are common among normal people (e.g. Sensetivity to sunlight.)
What, other than the need for pranic energy, are either uniquely vampiric, as in, don't appear in normal humans? Or are dominant traits that identify vampirism, and that aren't commonly found among "regular" humans?
vampiric abilities tend to manifest themselves. most of these are also possible for normals, but not very likely to manifest in normals. things such as 'blinking' which allows us to move at a greater speed, typically without even realising it, increased strength(not typical to all vamps), enhanced extrasensory perception, and several others. however, not all vams even develop these traits. so, the thing that truly sets vampires apart from other humans is the need for pranic energy or other types of energy.

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the only vampire movies that i actually enjoy are nosferatu, because it doesnt once mention immortality, and 'shadow of the vampire', because it gives one of the most realistic portrayals of real vampirism as a condition until the last 10 or 15 minutes of it.

one of my favorite lines is
"so if you're so lonely, why not make more of you"
"well, i'm too old, not that i remember ever being able to do so in the first place"

nosferatu was made in the 1920s in germany

shadow of the vampire is about the making of nosferatu and came out in the 1990s i think. it talks about Max Shreck, the man who played the role of the 'vampire' in nosferatu, as if he actually was a vampire. it is known that he suffered from porphyoria(sp??), which is a disease that is considered to be "medical vampirism" and can be transferred through blood to blood contact. most communities however, will state that this is not indeed real vampirism, having no metaphysical properties to it and giving none of the abilities.
My theory, however, is that the whole concept of a 'turning' comes from medeival misunderstanding of porphyoria.