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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:42 am
TS Sailor Cronus
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idk if you're planning something similar but I had a thought:
Why not do a list of Site Updates for the previous month? I was thinking you could separate it by Cash Sales and Site Improvements. And if any of the updates are mentioned in an article, hyperlink it. If it's mentioned in several, do the page numbers like:
*Dice Roll (Read more 5, 7, 9)

scream scream
Because we don't want to crash everybody's computers when they read the magazine, that's why!
I'm only kidding. xd
Seriously though, if there was a way to abbreviate the list in some way, or maybe just make a pie chart or something... that might be better.
Well that's what I was thinking: some sort of chart.
Maybe a couple of pie charts would be good. One of would just be Cash Vs Improvements. The other could detail the cash releases like: Number of Times Released(on the key have it say the name and # of releases like 'Dice Roll: 52'). Although it would be quite time consuming, seeing as how there's 10 announcements a day, lately.  
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:53 am
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Oh there are some great announcement graphs, lemme find them and see if they're updated.
Here they are
That's exactly the sort of thing I was thinking of. xD  

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Feline Paladin

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:00 am
MahoHaku
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They said it was not pg13 and deleted it. And said it was NSFW.


Whaaaaaat?

Is that the entire picture, or did you crop of the part where she's grabbing someone's groin? Because from where I'm standing, there's nothing in that picture that would break ANY website's ToS in any way.  
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:44 pm
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They said it was not pg13 and deleted it. And said it was NSFW.


Whaaaaaat?

Is that the entire picture, or did you crop of the part where she's grabbing someone's groin? Because from where I'm standing, there's nothing in that picture that would break ANY website's ToS in any way.


She is reaching down her hand to help up a homeless child. This is a commissioners RP character who is a fallen angel. She hates humans but is forced to help them to be restored to heaven. This is cropped but she's leaning over with an open hand to a child who's fallen over and weary of her.

I asked the Mod to explain why my posts were deleted on the first offense and she said that those are the rules and the second offense is being banned from gaiaonline. Having my account banned. So I decided to not put my art back up. This is the fluff I was offering and it was deleted too. FLUFFY ART

The Mod warned me to stop contacting her and just accept that I was in the wrong for offering Fluff and posting that art and I would be banned if I kept spamming her when I only asked 2 questions and sent her 2 PMs. I linked her an avatar asking how to draw it if I'm not allowed to draw stuff as simple as clevage or fluff and she said that only gaia was allowed to have those things and because it was gaia it was PG13 but if it's the same thing but not gaia it's over PG13.
 

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:40 pm
MahoHaku
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They said it was not pg13 and deleted it. And said it was NSFW.


Whaaaaaat?

Is that the entire picture, or did you crop of the part where she's grabbing someone's groin? Because from where I'm standing, there's nothing in that picture that would break ANY website's ToS in any way.


She is reaching down her hand to help up a homeless child. This is a commissioners RP character who is a fallen angel. She hates humans but is forced to help them to be restored to heaven. This is cropped but she's leaning over with an open hand to a child who's fallen over and weary of her.

I asked the Mod to explain why my posts were deleted on the first offense and she said that those are the rules and the second offense is being banned from gaiaonline. Having my account banned. So I decided to not put my art back up. This is the fluff I was offering and it was deleted too. FLUFFY ART

The Mod warned me to stop contacting her and just accept that I was in the wrong for offering Fluff and posting that art and I would be banned if I kept spamming her when I only asked 2 questions and sent her 2 PMs. I linked her an avatar asking how to draw it if I'm not allowed to draw stuff as simple as clevage or fluff and she said that only gaia was allowed to have those things and because it was gaia it was PG13 but if it's the same thing but not gaia it's over PG13.


Cleavage?

1) That makes absolutely no sense.
2) She clearly has no idea what counts as PG-13.
3) Ratings do not change based on which person displays the art. It's either appropriate all-around, or inappropriate all-around.
4) I don't even see ANYTHING in the rest of your pictures that come even close. (I looked at like, 20 pictures. Maybe I didn't get far enough.)

Quote:
The more mature themes in some PG-rated motion pictures may call for parental guidance. There may be some profanity and some depictions of violence or brief nudity.

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More than brief nudity will require at least a PG-13 rating, but such nudity in a PG-13 rated motion picture generally will not be sexually oriented.


The above quotes are talking about FULL BODY NUDITY. Not a small amount of cleavage.

Examples of movies which are NOT PG-13, but are instead JUST G/ PG:

Aladdin
Beauty and the Beast
The Little Mermaid (Non-p***s Castle edition)
Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

These are all pretty basic and very popular examples. NONE of those things count as PG-13 anywhere else; therefore they should not count as PG-13 here.

And the double-standard in this case is NOT acceptable. I understand that a lot of times Gaia is allowed to do things which no one else on the site should do, but this particular double-standard is just wrong.

Were you not allowed to PM a different mod about it?  
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:21 pm
TS Sailor Cronus

Cleavage?

1) That makes absolutely no sense.
2) She clearly has no idea what counts as PG-13.
3) Ratings do not change based on which person displays the art. It's either appropriate all-around, or inappropriate all-around.
4) I don't even see ANYTHING in the rest of your pictures that come even close. (I looked at like, 20 pictures. Maybe I didn't get far enough.)

Quote:
The more mature themes in some PG-rated motion pictures may call for parental guidance. There may be some profanity and some depictions of violence or brief nudity.

Quote:
More than brief nudity will require at least a PG-13 rating, but such nudity in a PG-13 rated motion picture generally will not be sexually oriented.


The above quotes are talking about FULL BODY NUDITY. Not a small amount of cleavage.

Examples of movies which are NOT PG-13, but are instead JUST G/ PG:

Aladdin
Beauty and the Beast
The Little Mermaid (Non-p***s Castle edition)
Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

These are all pretty basic and very popular examples. NONE of those things count as PG-13 anywhere else; therefore they should not count as PG-13 here.

And the double-standard in this case is NOT acceptable. I understand that a lot of times Gaia is allowed to do things which no one else on the site should do, but this particular double-standard is just wrong.

Were you not allowed to PM a different mod about it?


I gave up. Because it was easier just to give up since I wasn't getting enough commission on gaia that made it worth saving them to fight corrupt mods and possibly lose my account which I've spent over $200 on in my youth. The Mod said that my posts couldn't be recovered anyway and it's too late to fix the deletion. That I was in the wrong and I need to stop trying to claim I'm innocent. I posted "I don't accept nsfw unless it is through my DA in the form of fluff or very slight gore. Pm me if it's anything between PG13 or Teen16" and she quoted me saying "I accept NSFW through my DA for cash" Which is absolutely not what I typed and I couldn't prove that the quote wasn't mine because my post was deleted. You know how easy it is to just

TS Sailor Cronus
"I take NSFW through my Deviantart"


emotion_facepalm ... And I never knew what NSFW really was until my art shop was deleted. I thought it was anything that involved cleavage or partial nude women, couples etc. I wouldn't pull up half of Gaia's items at work. I saw many other more successful Gaia artists state they accepted nsfw on Gaia and saw that they too drew a little cleavage and partially nude, sexual Gaian's. So I thought it is what I had to state to draw these avatars that were very not pg13. Like this stuff~

Bottled Abrasive Sexuality

Box of Totally Innocent Objects

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So I can say that truly a portion is my fault (On the fact I put down the word nsfw at all but not for posting my art. My art is not nsfw) but they also were too harsh on my first offense on Gaia in the 8 years I've been here. It was my innocent mistake to not apparently know that was a bad thing. Considering there are art shops that are 1000 votes popular that have real porn all over them that have been up for years... I post fluff and I'm deleted at the drop of a hat within a couple weeks. I was also told that someone reported me and my art too. I don't know who reported me but I guess it doesn't matter. Maybe it was the same mod that was threatening me for a nightmare scarf.... or that user who tried to hack my account for my millions in gold cause I quit their RP (They were god Modding, their grammar was terrible so I decided it wasn't worth it and just killed my OCs off) . I definitely reported them and they never got in trouble for their crap.Maybe it's just who your friend's with on gaia.

Also a friend I had on gaia used to do art for gaia. She won the very first Nightmare scarf when it originally came out as a prize for an artists contest. She decided that she wasn't going to use the scarf and wasn't on gaia enough to make use of the scarf. So she gifted it to me and I put it on my avi. The mod/artist who saw the scarf questioned me as if no one was allowed to have the scarf but my friend who won it. I was threatened to give it back to my friend or the mod who was threatening me or face being banned on gaia (I had no idea it was a gift from a contest she just gifted it to me cause she had no use for it. And I was attacked for the random gift by a gaia MOD) . The MOD said this to my friend "If you don't want it, give it back, don't give it to another f*cking Gaian". So I gave it back to my friend who gave it back to the Mod. And this my friend was the most professional Gaia employee I've ever seen (By no major stretch of sarcasm *Wink*). With the recent re-release of the nightmare scarves and recolors I'm thinking this Mod must be pissed off which actually kind of makes me feel better about losing the gift.
 

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:14 pm
MahoHaku
I gave up. Because it was easier just to give up since I wasn't getting enough commission on gaia that made it worth saving them to fight corrupt mods and possibly lose my account which I've spent over $200 on in my youth. The Mod said that my posts couldn't be recovered anyway and it's too late to fix the deletion. That I was in the wrong and I need to stop trying to claim I'm innocent. I posted "I don't accept nsfw unless it is through my DA in the form of fluff or very slight gore. Pm me if it's anything between PG13 or Teen16" and she quoted me saying "I accept NSFW through my DA for cash" Which is absolutely not what I typed and I couldn't prove that the quote wasn't mine because my post was deleted. You know how easy it is to just

TS Sailor Cronus
"I take NSFW through my Deviantart"


emotion_facepalm ... And I never knew what NSFW really was until my art shop was deleted. I thought it was anything that involved cleavage or partial nude women, couples etc. I wouldn't pull up half of Gaia's items at work. I saw many other more successful Gaia artists state they accepted nsfw on Gaia and saw that they too drew a little cleavage and partially nude, sexual Gaian's. So I thought it is what I had to state to draw these avatars that were very not pg13. Like this stuff~

Bottled Abrasive Sexuality

Box of Totally Innocent Objects

So I can say that truly a portion is my fault (On the fact I put down the word nsfw at all but not for posting my art. My art is not nsfw) but they also were too harsh on my first offense on Gaia in the 8 years I've been here. It was my innocent mistake to not apparently know that was a bad thing. Considering there are art shops that are 1000 votes popular that have real porn all over them that have been up for years... I post fluff and I'm deleted at the drop of a hat within a couple weeks. I was also told that someone reported me and my art too. I don't know who reported me but I guess it doesn't matter. Maybe it was the same mod that was threatening me for a nightmare scarf.... or that user who tried to hack my account for my millions in gold cause I quit their RP (They were god Modding, their grammar was terrible so I decided it wasn't worth it and just killed my OCs off) . I definitely reported them and they never got in trouble for their crap.Maybe it's just who your friend's with on gaia.

Also a friend I had on gaia used to do art for gaia. She won the very first Nightmare scarf when it originally came out as a prize for an artists contest. She decided that she wasn't going to use the scarf and wasn't on gaia enough to make use of the scarf. So she gifted it to me and I put it on my avi. The mod/artist who saw the scarf questioned me as if no one was allowed to have the scarf but my friend who won it. I was threatened to give it back to my friend or the mod who was threatening me or face being banned on gaia (I had no idea it was a gift from a contest she just gifted it to me cause she had no use for it. And I was attacked for the random gift by a gaia MOD) . The MOD said this to my friend "If you don't want it, give it back, don't give it to another f*cking Gaian". So I gave it back to my friend who gave it back to the Mod. And this my friend was the most professional Gaia employee I've ever seen (By no major stretch of sarcasm *Wink*). With the recent re-release of the nightmare scarves and recolors I'm thinking this Mod must be pissed off which actually kind of makes me feel better about losing the gift.


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Something I like to do, even if I don't necessarily believe anything bad will happen, is to save a copy of the webpage when I make a topic or post in a thread. (For example, I have already saved a copy of this thread.) I started this back when I heard about people being banned for naming the CEO and decided I should have records just in case. Screencapping is good too, of course.

If the scarf wasn't soulbound, it was rightfully yours as a gift. rolleyes But I guess it's pointless to argue that now...

Note: Edited Tektek image out of your quote because... Blugh. *Shivers.* >.<

No offense intended, hope you don't mind.  
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:17 pm
Also, I just realized which thread we're in and we derailed it a bit. sweatdrop

I would suggest adding a section for unfair bans, but I worry it would cause a sudden string of unfair bans... emo  

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:03 pm
TS Sailor Cronus
Also, I just realized which thread we're in and we derailed it a bit. sweatdrop

I would suggest adding a section for unfair bans, but I worry it would cause a sudden string of unfair bans... emo


I feel the same way... Giving light to unfair bans and deletions just might cause more. In my case this is the truth so I know from experience.

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And I apologize for derailing this. I was going to offer doing art for this mag but several mods already hate me here for many unfair reasons and I don't want you guys to get involved with that. And it's okay if you removed that avi from my quote. It was an avi someone wanted me to draw. And I said no and was quite appalled that items to make something like that even exist on a PG 13 website where it's target audience which makes up 72% of it's users are 13 and under.


 
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:43 am
MahoHaku
TS Sailor Cronus
Also, I just realized which thread we're in and we derailed it a bit. sweatdrop

I would suggest adding a section for unfair bans, but I worry it would cause a sudden string of unfair bans... emo


I feel the same way... Giving light to unfair bans and deletions just might cause more. In my case this is the truth so I know from experience.

User Image


And I apologize for derailing this. I was going to offer doing art for this mag but several mods already hate me here for many unfair reasons and I don't want you guys to get involved with that. And it's okay if you removed that avi from my quote. It was an avi someone wanted me to draw. And I said no and was quite appalled that items to make something like that even exist on a PG 13 website where it's target audience which makes up 72% of it's users are 13 and under.




I know, right? rolleyes Still can't get over that. I've seen that avi and many variations of it for years and I still don't understand how that's allowed. emotion_facepalm  

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:57 am
MahoHaku
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Also, I just realized which thread we're in and we derailed it a bit. sweatdrop

I would suggest adding a section for unfair bans, but I worry it would cause a sudden string of unfair bans... emo


I feel the same way... Giving light to unfair bans and deletions just might cause more. In my case this is the truth so I know from experience.

User Image


And I apologize for derailing this. I was going to offer doing art for this mag but several mods already hate me here for many unfair reasons and I don't want you guys to get involved with that. And it's okay if you removed that avi from my quote. It was an avi someone wanted me to draw. And I said no and was quite appalled that items to make something like that even exist on a PG 13 website where it's target audience which makes up 72% of it's users are 13 and under.




You should PM a different mod about the image. They keep histories of why things were deleted so they can see the cause and I'm sure they'll deem it stupid. Then the mod who deleted it will be told in no uncertain terms that that is not okay.  
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:27 am
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You should PM a different mod about the image. They keep histories of why things were deleted so they can see the cause and I'm sure they'll deem it stupid. Then the mod who deleted it will be told in no uncertain terms that that is not okay.


See, that's what I was thinking: don't they normally have records of these things?

I wouldn't bring it up if it was too long ago, but that story did sound pretty familiar to me. I was fairly certain I read a description in an art shop that sounded like what you provided, Maho, and then it was just gone. It is somewhat recent, isn't it?

(I don't blame you if you just give it up entirely. sad I would be sad about it, but I can hardly fault you.)  

TS Sailor Cronus

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xx I met my fate xx

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:16 am
TS Sailor Cronus
xx I met my fate xx
You should PM a different mod about the image. They keep histories of why things were deleted so they can see the cause and I'm sure they'll deem it stupid. Then the mod who deleted it will be told in no uncertain terms that that is not okay.


See, that's what I was thinking: don't they normally have records of these things?

I wouldn't bring it up if it was too long ago, but that story did sound pretty familiar to me. I was fairly certain I read a description in an art shop that sounded like what you provided, Maho, and then it was just gone. It is somewhat recent, isn't it?

(I don't blame you if you just give it up entirely. sad I would be sad about it, but I can hardly fault you.)

I will note that if ANYWHERE in your art shop you say that you do NSFW commissions even offsite, they have the right to remove it.  
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:33 am
xx I met my fate xx
TS Sailor Cronus
xx I met my fate xx
You should PM a different mod about the image. They keep histories of why things were deleted so they can see the cause and I'm sure they'll deem it stupid. Then the mod who deleted it will be told in no uncertain terms that that is not okay.


See, that's what I was thinking: don't they normally have records of these things?

I wouldn't bring it up if it was too long ago, but that story did sound pretty familiar to me. I was fairly certain I read a description in an art shop that sounded like what you provided, Maho, and then it was just gone. It is somewhat recent, isn't it?

(I don't blame you if you just give it up entirely. sad I would be sad about it, but I can hardly fault you.)

I will note that if ANYWHERE in your art shop you say that you do NSFW commissions even offsite, they have the right to remove it.


That's true. It's a little sad, seeing that she didn't completely know what it meant.

But looking at the art would have shown that that's not what she intended by it.

I don't know. >.<  

TS Sailor Cronus

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:35 am
I agree. There's nothing about that picture that even the most conservative gramma would find offensive. Heck, my gramma always tells me I need to shore MORE cleavage to get free stuff. XD

Also full nudity is actually allowed on Gaia if it's not sexual. Artistic nudity is allowed but it must be in LINK form, not thumbnail or full image form.

That mod has some serious trippin' going on. I highly suggest messaging another one, a GLOBAL mod and letting them know what's going on with her. Include screenies also.  
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