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Prince Ichi Halfling Heroine dakki-dono Halfling Heroine That art is so cute! 4laugh I'm afraid I'm guilty of having the wonky proportions whenever I try to draw people realistically. lol I'm trying to improve my anatomy but I haven't gotten very far. I've gotten quite good at doing clothing and faces, but my actual bodies need a lot of work. If any of you have any tips on how I could improve, I'd really appreciate it~ I might see if I can get my brother to take some pictures of my fail-tastic drawing so you can get an idea of where I'm at. The best way to start drawing realistically is to draw from life. Draw actual bodies and faces and use real people as references when you can't have some person sitting right there for hours. And yes, that includes naked people. If you don't use references, you get the half-real half ******** whatever my sig is. gonk Thank you, I'll try that. It might not be practical to get people I know irl to let me draw them naked (self concious teenagers lol) but I'm sure I could find models in books or something. I've gotten better at portraits but when I'm doing a fullbody I'm not sure where to start. With a face I'd always start with the eyes...but I've been told that drawing the head first isn't necessarily a good idea when trying to draw a full person. Also, I really love the drawing in your sig. Most people draw their avatars as teenagers or young adults..... but your's has a more weathered face. Your art tells a story without needing any words. You can almost imagine what kind of life Dakki could have had. As much as I like anime style art, I think that traditional art has it's own emotional impact. Not that I'm an expert or anything of course! I go to painting classes and my teacher told me that once you get enough practice at painting or drawing something, you can recreate a relastic image without references. I'm sure you've been told this many times, but I'm impressed that you could draw a picture like that, especially without a reference. 3nodding To further clarify what dakki said Draw what you see. Not what you think you see. There's the hugest difference from that alone, and that was the first thing I was taught in my drawing 1 through life drawing classes. Also, reference are you best friend. I don't care how Dakki draws, but if you want to learn anatomy properly, you must at least glance at a reference to get proportions correct when you start out. I could totally send you my folder with like, 400+ refs. Most are either stock, or magazine clippings with natural poses.
I never thought about it like that, but now that you point it out it seems painfully obvious. Drawing what I see, not what I think I see...I'll keep that in mind. If it's not too much trouble, the folder would be a great help. Nothing beats drawing from a reference when you're starting out. I was taught a few basics like drawing still life in school, but it's one thing drawing an apple or a glass bottle, and quite another to draw a realistic human being.
Thanks for the advice everyone, I really appreciate it. heart I'll do my best to put your pointers into practice. I understand that different artists have their own way of doing things, but it's still a big help for a novice like myself to get tips from more experienced artists.
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:17 pm
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:17 pm
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:11 pm
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:15 pm
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Halfling Heroine dakki-dono Halfling Heroine That art is so cute! 4laugh I'm afraid I'm guilty of having the wonky proportions whenever I try to draw people realistically. lol I'm trying to improve my anatomy but I haven't gotten very far. I've gotten quite good at doing clothing and faces, but my actual bodies need a lot of work. If any of you have any tips on how I could improve, I'd really appreciate it~ I might see if I can get my brother to take some pictures of my fail-tastic drawing so you can get an idea of where I'm at. The best way to start drawing realistically is to draw from life. Draw actual bodies and faces and use real people as references when you can't have some person sitting right there for hours. And yes, that includes naked people. If you don't use references, you get the half-real half ******** whatever my sig is. gonk Thank you, I'll try that. It might not be practical to get people I know irl to let me draw them naked (self concious teenagers lol) but I'm sure I could find models in books or something. I've gotten better at portraits but when I'm doing a fullbody I'm not sure where to start. With a face I'd always start with the eyes...but I've been told that drawing the head first isn't necessarily a good idea when trying to draw a full person. Also, I really love the drawing in your sig. Most people draw their avatars as teenagers or young adults..... but your's has a more weathered face. Your art tells a story without needing any words. You can almost imagine what kind of life Dakki could have had. As much as I like anime style art, I think that traditional art has it's own emotional impact. Not that I'm an expert or anything of course! I go to painting classes and my teacher told me that once you get enough practice at painting or drawing something, you can recreate a relastic image without references. I'm sure you've been told this many times, but I'm impressed that you could draw a picture like that, especially without a reference. 3nodding As Ichi said, for starters, stick with references. The only way I can draw decently without is because I have drawn so damn many.
With creating a character and such, you can start playing with and mixing references. I was drawing a friend and ended up using one guy's mouth with another's nose. For Dakki, I usually start by widening the nose and adding wrinkle lines and s**t, sometimes dudes as reference. I'm not an attractive character. In realism, that is much, much easier to portray.
But anyhow, yes. Build a reference folder up. I generally just use google as my ref folder since I hardly draw right from the same image twice. A good site to work with for setting poses is posemaniacs, but they can be really static so don't follow it exactly.
For me, it's all about detail. Don't only draw what you see. Draw EVERYTHING. emotion_donotwant
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:43 pm
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dakki-dono Halfling Heroine dakki-dono Halfling Heroine That art is so cute! 4laugh I'm afraid I'm guilty of having the wonky proportions whenever I try to draw people realistically. lol I'm trying to improve my anatomy but I haven't gotten very far. I've gotten quite good at doing clothing and faces, but my actual bodies need a lot of work. If any of you have any tips on how I could improve, I'd really appreciate it~ I might see if I can get my brother to take some pictures of my fail-tastic drawing so you can get an idea of where I'm at. The best way to start drawing realistically is to draw from life. Draw actual bodies and faces and use real people as references when you can't have some person sitting right there for hours. And yes, that includes naked people. If you don't use references, you get the half-real half ******** whatever my sig is. gonk Thank you, I'll try that. It might not be practical to get people I know irl to let me draw them naked (self concious teenagers lol) but I'm sure I could find models in books or something. I've gotten better at portraits but when I'm doing a fullbody I'm not sure where to start. With a face I'd always start with the eyes...but I've been told that drawing the head first isn't necessarily a good idea when trying to draw a full person. Also, I really love the drawing in your sig. Most people draw their avatars as teenagers or young adults..... but your's has a more weathered face. Your art tells a story without needing any words. You can almost imagine what kind of life Dakki could have had. As much as I like anime style art, I think that traditional art has it's own emotional impact. Not that I'm an expert or anything of course! I go to painting classes and my teacher told me that once you get enough practice at painting or drawing something, you can recreate a relastic image without references. I'm sure you've been told this many times, but I'm impressed that you could draw a picture like that, especially without a reference. 3nodding As Ichi said, for starters, stick with references. The only way I can draw decently without is because I have drawn so damn many. With creating a character and such, you can start playing with and mixing references. I was drawing a friend and ended up using one guy's mouth with another's nose. For Dakki, I usually start by widening the nose and adding wrinkle lines and s**t, sometimes dudes as reference. I'm not an attractive character. In realism, that is much, much easier to portray. But anyhow, yes. Build a reference folder up. I generally just use google as my ref folder since I hardly draw right from the same image twice. A good site to work with for setting poses is posemaniacs, but they can be really static so don't follow it exactly. For me, it's all about detail. Don't only draw what you see. Draw EVERYTHING. emotion_donotwant Experiment with facial features, build up a decent reference folder and draw EVERYTHING, got it! xd I never would have thought that you'd use male faces for a female character, but then again we get facial features from both our parents, so it makes sense. I'll practice realism, best to stick with the basics for now. I'll take a look at that site you suggested too.
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:01 pm
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Halfling Heroine Experiment with facial features, build up a decent reference folder and draw EVERYTHING, got it! xd I never would have thought that you'd use male faces for a female character, but then again we get facial features from both our parents, so it makes sense. I'll practice realism, best to stick with the basics for now. I'll take a look at that site you suggested too. Unless you want the face to look more masculine, I would not suggest using male references for women.
My advice is terrible, and all over the place, I apologize. Honestly, when people are like, "HOW DO YOU DRAW LIKE YOU DO?" I have no ******** idea what to say. I'd make the worst teacher.
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:21 pm
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dakki-dono Halfling Heroine Experiment with facial features, build up a decent reference folder and draw EVERYTHING, got it! xd I never would have thought that you'd use male faces for a female character, but then again we get facial features from both our parents, so it makes sense. I'll practice realism, best to stick with the basics for now. I'll take a look at that site you suggested too. Unless you want the face to look more masculine, I would not suggest using male references for women. My advice is terrible, and all over the place, I apologize. Honestly, when people are like, "HOW DO YOU DRAW LIKE YOU DO?" I have no ******** idea what to say. I'd make the worst teacher.
Of course, that's a given. Visa versa with females faces for a more feminine man. No need to apologize, you've given me useful advice. I understad how it could be difficult to decribe a process that comes naturally to you to someone else, but your pointers have given me an idea of where to proceed next. When it comes to improving your drawing, there's no substitute for practice. I'll take what you and Ichi have said to me on board, and hopefully I'll develop my own ability with time. Thank you for your help! 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:32 pm
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