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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:34 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:37 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:46 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:04 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:25 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:34 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:54 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:49 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:08 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:20 pm
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:14 am
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:09 am
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:45 am
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The Undead Suitor Druddigon Also,fought against Ulfric I have to say the empire really is best for Skyrim despite the whole ban of Talos gonk Yeah, the further you get into the quest line, the less grey it becomes. Ulfric is outright revealed to only be interested in becoming king for the power. and it proven to be a thalmor sleeper agent (basically, the thalmor planned to have Ulfric destabalize Skyrim with infighting so they could come in and take over easier.) And then, its revealed that the only reason the Imperials banned Talos (the only negative viewpoint against them) was because it was part of the treaty that saved the Empire from the Thalmor. Like...idk. I was hoping it was going to be like..this grey vs grey thing that you could put your character on either side and still fill "good", but........I just cant.. Yeah the imperials are far easier to side with.
Though what is fun to do if you haven't yet is join the stormclocks get the jaggedcrown then rather giving it to Ulfric just go to solitude and hand it over to general Tullius.
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:10 am
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The Undead Suitor Druddigon Also,fought against Ulfric I have to say the empire really is best for Skyrim despite the whole ban of Talos gonk Yeah, the further you get into the quest line, the less grey it becomes. Ulfric is outright revealed to only be interested in becoming king for the power. and it proven to be a thalmor sleeper agent (basically, the thalmor planned to have Ulfric destabalize Skyrim with infighting so they could come in and take over easier.) And then, its revealed that the only reason the Imperials banned Talos (the only negative viewpoint against them) was because it was part of the treaty that saved the Empire from the Thalmor. Like...idk. I was hoping it was going to be like..this grey vs grey thing that you could put your character on either side and still fill "good", but........I just cant..
Eh, it's a little more complicated than that, but yeah, Ulfric's pretty bad news all around. Basically, he's only helping the Thalmor as long as the civil war is still going on and weakening the moral and armies of Skyrim, so if he (or the empire) wins, their position in Skyrim is weakened. A Stormcloak victory would hurt them the worst, since it directly hurts their goal of unmaking Talos, Man, and Mundus, but I've always got the impression that the Empire is going to reinstate Talos worship once they've stabilized enough for another war against the Thalmor, since the top officers still worship him, so the Stormcloaks are kind of shooting themselves in the foot.
So that's good and all, I guess, but Ulfric's still helping the Thalmor by oppressing pretty much every nonhuman race except maybe the orcs, so that's not very nice at all. It's not explicitly stated, but I'm pretty sure the Thalmor manipulated him into hating the Dunmer, since they absolutely hate them for being grey-skinned freaks that worship heathen Daedra or magical hermaphrodites (ilu Dunmer) and it's easier on them to kill them all if the Dunmer aren't in a position to fight back. And then there's the whole business in Markarth where Ulfric's okay with Nords taking over their homeland but not Reachmen, but I guess it's more complicated, since they did become crazy homicidal cannibals pretty quick and that's no good. And yeah, Ulfric's pretty power-crazy and ignoring his people's whole history (Nords have been part of the empire like forever) and culture (wtf you'd think they'd at least use the Nordic names for their gods instead of the Cyrodiilic ones) to fight a war ostensibly about preserving their history and culture, so that's no good.
So...yeah. I think you can make a Stormcloak character aligned with the good side, but I think in the long run, the Stormcloak's will be pretty disastrous unless you take them over. It pretty much makes no sense to join the Stormcloaks if you're anything but Nord though. Idk, I didn't like how simple they made the Stormcloak/Empire plot line, so I just didn't do it on my main. I wish there was an option where you could just totally take over everything, since the only other thing I'm not in charge of is the Bard's College. Pretty sure lorewise though, the Dragonborn is in the perfect position to become Talos 2.0 and/or the next emperor, so I don't think it really matters either way in the long run which side you pick.
I HAVE A LOT OF ~*~FEELINGS~*~ ABOUT ELDER SCROLLS OK
IT DOESN'T HELP THAT I'VE BEEN LURKING THE OFFICIAL LORE BOARDS FOR THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS
EVERYTHING IS SNOW WHALES AND ENANTIOMORPHS AND MUATRA AND NOTHING HURTS
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