Hurdur, its a chat thread

[Infamous]

Since I don't really know either person.

I'm going with the not giving a ******** option.  

[Sachie Whitby]

Slick Southpaw

Pissing contests in the GCD make me laugh when it comes to "who owns the thread"

I don't think anyone should own threads nor should people be making the threads ahead of time when the RIG, EI, whatever isn't released/evolved yet just to insure that they're the ones making it. Srsly, it's not going to make me donate to them any more than I'm already not.  

[Infamous]

Sachie Whitby

Slick Southpaw

Pissing contests in the GCD make me laugh when it comes to "who owns the thread"

I don't think anyone should own threads nor should people be making the threads ahead of time when the RIG, EI, whatever isn't released/evolved yet just to insure that they're the ones making it. Srsly, it's not going to make me donate to them any more than I'm already not.

Do people really donate to them because they make the threads?

That seems really noobish. >>  

[Sachie Whitby]

Meromictic

Sachie Whitby

Slick Southpaw

Pissing contests in the GCD make me laugh when it comes to "who owns the thread"

I don't think anyone should own threads nor should people be making the threads ahead of time when the RIG, EI, whatever isn't released/evolved yet just to insure that they're the ones making it. Srsly, it's not going to make me donate to them any more than I'm already not.

Do people really donate to them because they make the threads?

That seems really noobish. >>

From what I've noticed... yes.
However rather than continue this discussion further, I shall end this post with a picture of a car that was turned into a space shuttle then launched.

 

[floraIwitch]

Supposed to go to Wildwood tomorrow and hoping it'll be clear enough to enjoy. :c

(wildwood nj is a seaside resort town, located near the southern barrier islands of the state. There's a bunch of boardwalk amusment parks and it's pretty nice!)

ACCORDING TO WEATHER CHANNEL it'll be a High of 75 and partly cloudy. It'd be nice if it were since I leave on Thursday.  

[floraIwitch]

also wildwood has the most badass wawa



ur all jelus  

[Infamous]

Sachie Whitby

Meromictic

Sachie Whitby

Slick Southpaw

Pissing contests in the GCD make me laugh when it comes to "who owns the thread"

I don't think anyone should own threads nor should people be making the threads ahead of time when the RIG, EI, whatever isn't released/evolved yet just to insure that they're the ones making it. Srsly, it's not going to make me donate to them any more than I'm already not.

Do people really donate to them because they make the threads?

That seems really noobish. >>

From what I've noticed... yes.
However rather than continue this discussion further, I shall end this post with a picture of a car that was turned into a space shuttle then launched.

That is a pretty awesome space shuttle. XD  

[Sachie Whitby]

Meromictic

Sachie Whitby

Meromictic

Sachie Whitby

Slick Southpaw

Pissing contests in the GCD make me laugh when it comes to "who owns the thread"

I don't think anyone should own threads nor should people be making the threads ahead of time when the RIG, EI, whatever isn't released/evolved yet just to insure that they're the ones making it. Srsly, it's not going to make me donate to them any more than I'm already not.

Do people really donate to them because they make the threads?

That seems really noobish. >>

From what I've noticed... yes.
However rather than continue this discussion further, I shall end this post with a picture of a car that was turned into a space shuttle then launched.

That is a pretty awesome space shuttle. XD

It was up until the moment that it crashed before reaching space.
At least it was remote controlled so nobody was hurt.  

[Halfling Heroine]

Sachie Whitby

Halfling Heroine

Sachie Whitby

((You called for an elven knight of the kitty kingdom~? cat_wink ))

I never realized that the formula itself was so rare. That's crazy! How is anyone meant to craft a pair of backwings if they can't even get their hands on the formula? I'm afraid I completely out of the loop as far as alchemy is concerned, I thought it was the components were the problem. No wonder some people feel so bitter about the backwings issue. Don't worry, you don't come across as being preachy. If I had any interest in crafting backwings, I'd feel pretty disappointed too. We can only hope that Gaia will eventually tweak the difficulty to a more realistic level.

It's a shame I don't have my old computer anymore, otherwise I could find some of my newbie avatars. I remember my avatar always used to be dressed in blue to match my old username.(Aquadreamer00) Back then, I thought I had the most original name ever! emotion_dealwithit

It used to be a formula and component problem, but I would say that all 99% of alchemy problems are in regards to formulas. [The other 1% is alchemy formulas with recipes that call for one or more RIG items that have the potential for extinction.]

The only "fix" they've done in terms of formulas is that they've taken a bunch of the formulas used to make certain alchemy formulas out of the alchemist case [i.e. the formula RIG box] and made them ultra rares in the daily chance only.

For example -
http://www.gaiaonline.com/marketplace/itemdetail/75001

I own one of this formula but to make Glacemella, I am going to need 10 more. The idea that I'm going to have to raise 300mil just to buy enough formulas [on top of the 220 sugar crystals] is completely ludicrous. I'm very tempted to take my formula to the Alchemy Exchange and see if someone will trade me the Formula 10: Nice Suit for Work for it.


[Sorry if I got a bit ranty there as I really cannot talk about what Gaia did with formulas without getting frustrated and ranty.]

Gaia tries to fix alchemy, and then by 'fixing' it they actually make the problem worse! Oh dear. gonk

Also, I would have thought you'd only need one formula per item. Why would you need 11 formulas to make 1 item? That's crazy! No wonder you're feeling so frustrated with alchemy. If I were you I'd just sell your formula and try for that Nice Suit for Work. Lifes too short to be giving yourself grief over the broken alchemy system~  

[Halfling Heroine]

Sachie Whitby

Meromictic

Sachie Whitby

Meromictic

Sachie Whitby

Slick Southpaw

Pissing contests in the GCD make me laugh when it comes to "who owns the thread"

I don't think anyone should own threads nor should people be making the threads ahead of time when the RIG, EI, whatever isn't released/evolved yet just to insure that they're the ones making it. Srsly, it's not going to make me donate to them any more than I'm already not.

Do people really donate to them because they make the threads?

That seems really noobish. >>

From what I've noticed... yes.
However rather than continue this discussion further, I shall end this post with a picture of a car that was turned into a space shuttle then launched.

That is a pretty awesome space shuttle. XD

It was up until the moment that it crashed before reaching space.
At least it was remote controlled so nobody was hurt.

A space shuttle that big was remote controlled? Nice! cool  

[Infamous]

Halfling Heroine

Sachie Whitby

Halfling Heroine

Sachie Whitby

((You called for an elven knight of the kitty kingdom~? cat_wink ))

I never realized that the formula itself was so rare. That's crazy! How is anyone meant to craft a pair of backwings if they can't even get their hands on the formula? I'm afraid I completely out of the loop as far as alchemy is concerned, I thought it was the components were the problem. No wonder some people feel so bitter about the backwings issue. Don't worry, you don't come across as being preachy. If I had any interest in crafting backwings, I'd feel pretty disappointed too. We can only hope that Gaia will eventually tweak the difficulty to a more realistic level.

It's a shame I don't have my old computer anymore, otherwise I could find some of my newbie avatars. I remember my avatar always used to be dressed in blue to match my old username.(Aquadreamer00) Back then, I thought I had the most original name ever! emotion_dealwithit

It used to be a formula and component problem, but I would say that all 99% of alchemy problems are in regards to formulas. [The other 1% is alchemy formulas with recipes that call for one or more RIG items that have the potential for extinction.]

The only "fix" they've done in terms of formulas is that they've taken a bunch of the formulas used to make certain alchemy formulas out of the alchemist case [i.e. the formula RIG box] and made them ultra rares in the daily chance only.

For example -
http://www.gaiaonline.com/marketplace/itemdetail/75001

I own one of this formula but to make Glacemella, I am going to need 10 more. The idea that I'm going to have to raise 300mil just to buy enough formulas [on top of the 220 sugar crystals] is completely ludicrous. I'm very tempted to take my formula to the Alchemy Exchange and see if someone will trade me the Formula 10: Nice Suit for Work for it.


[Sorry if I got a bit ranty there as I really cannot talk about what Gaia did with formulas without getting frustrated and ranty.]

Gaia tries to fix alchemy, and then by 'fixing' it they actually make the problem worse! Oh dear. gonk

Also, I would have thought you'd only need one formula per item. Why would you need 11 formulas to make 1 item? That's crazy! No wonder you're feeling so frustrated with alchemy. If I were you I'd just sell your formula and try for that Nice Suit for Work. Lifes too short to be giving yourself grief over the broken alchemy system~

In total you need 12 formulas to make Erebus' Moon. All of the ones I need are in high demand too. IT SUCKS SO MUCH. And I have horrible luck with cases. ;.;  

[The Undead Suitor]

Sachie Whitby

Meromictic

Sachie Whitby

Meromictic

Sachie Whitby

Slick Southpaw

Pissing contests in the GCD make me laugh when it comes to "who owns the thread"

I don't think anyone should own threads nor should people be making the threads ahead of time when the RIG, EI, whatever isn't released/evolved yet just to insure that they're the ones making it. Srsly, it's not going to make me donate to them any more than I'm already not.

Do people really donate to them because they make the threads?

That seems really noobish. >>

From what I've noticed... yes.
However rather than continue this discussion further, I shall end this post with a picture of a car that was turned into a space shuttle then launched.

That is a pretty awesome space shuttle. XD

It was up until the moment that it crashed before reaching space.
At least it was remote controlled so nobody was hurt.

but really, did anyone expect a spaceshuttle made out of a hatchback by three lazy british guys to actually work?


(I love topgear)  

[Sachie Whitby]

Halfling Heroine

Sachie Whitby

Gaia tries to fix alchemy, and then by 'fixing' it they actually make the problem worse! Oh dear. gonk

Also, I would have thought you'd only need one formula per item. Why would you need 11 formulas to make 1 item? That's crazy! No wonder you're feeling so frustrated with alchemy. If I were you I'd just sell your formula and try for that Nice Suit for Work. Lifes too short to be giving yourself grief over the broken alchemy system~

You do need only one formula per item. However formulas are used up each time the item is successfully crafted thus if you need to make more than one of that component, you need more than one formula.

[Gaia isn't like when I played World of Warcraft where getting your alchemy formula meant that it would be forever in your repritore of things you could make.]


To make Glacemella, you need:
Formula 10: Glacemella x1
Azuramella x1
Biancamella (any gen) x1
Minthamella x1
Candy Mountain x10
450,000g

Candy Mountain is an alchemy component that is crafted out of other components, for each Candy Mountain you need the following:
Formula 4: Candy Mountain x1
Banana Seed x1
Cinnamon x5
Crystal Crab Claw x1
Glittering Sequins x1
Green Leek x1
Licorice x5
Spaghetti Tree x1
Sugar Crystals x20
Tasty Ham x1
10,000g

But wait, Minthamella is also alchemy crafted and to make that, you need the following:
Formula 10: Minthamella x1
Biancamella (any gen) x1
Mint Buttercream Rose x2
Mint Frilled Hat x3
Candy Mountain x1
200,000g


So the final total of everything you'll need to make just one Glacemella:
Formula 4: Candy Mountain x11
Formula 10: Glacemella x1
Formula 10: Minthamella x1
Azuramella x1
Biancamella (any gen) x2
Mint Buttercream Rose x2
Mint Frilled Hat x3
Minthamella x1
Banana Seed x11
Cinnamon x55
Crystal Crab Claw x11
Glittering Sequins x11
Green Leek x11
Licorice x55
Spaghetti Tree x11
Sugar Crystals x220
Tasty Ham x11
760,000g


I'm in the process of selling off everything I have so far for making Glacemella because I agree with you that the broken alchemy system has reached the point where it's not worth it to be giving myself grief or stress over it.... still going to level up to 8 to make the coat of the great war [as I have everything I need except components that don't come from from the rarer caches.] Since the formula for nice suit for work is like RIG pet rare, I won't even level past 8 until I get it. There's really no point.