The High Elves

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Drachyench_The_Eternal

Pontius Pirate

Well, like Reddemon said, a savvy player should be able to turn special character's weaknesses against them. Honestly, they were implemented in order to be used.

Most characters have one of three weaknesses: 1) No combat capabilities. Toss your Lord (Or heck, even hero) into combat with them, and watch them die.

2) No Magic defenses. Use some spell that causes shitloads of hits, regardless of targeting rules, and watch the character die easily.

3) Lack of/Reliant On ward save. If any enemy has something to nullify that, they go poof.

This is all, of course, forgetting the biggest bane of Characters: Cannons.

And then, we have the characters that are just beastly. One's who cover every angle of the game. The perfect example being Archaon. A solid stat-line, backed by having the power of all the marks of Chaos, and significant magic items makes him a machine.

Of course, with a whopping cost, it's rare you'll see him played in a game not consisting of more than 2,500 points.  

[Drachyench]

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Drachyench_The_Eternal

Pontius Pirate

Well, like Reddemon said, a savvy player should be able to turn special character's weaknesses against them. Honestly, they were implemented in order to be used.

Most characters have one of three weaknesses: 1) No combat capabilities. Toss your Lord (Or heck, even hero) into combat with them, and watch them die.

2) No Magic defenses. Use some spell that causes shitloads of hits, regardless of targeting rules, and watch the character die easily.

3) Lack of/Reliant On ward save. If any enemy has something to nullify that, they go poof.

This is all, of course, forgetting the biggest bane of Characters: Cannons.

And then, we have the characters that are just beastly. One's who cover every angle of the game. The perfect example being Archaon. A solid stat-line, backed by having the power of all the marks of Chaos, and significant magic items makes him a machine.

Of course, with a whopping cost, it's rare you'll see him played in a game not consisting of more than 2,500 points.

Meh, I've seen legal Dwarf Slayers that can take him down (For the slayer army list).

You want a cheesy character, try facing a Slayer Lord in close combat that's decked out in runes and slayer skills.  

[Reddemon]

Now now, lets start talking about how bad the high Elf Special characters are  

[EliotJamesRookwood]

Reddemon

Now now, lets start talking about how bad the high Elf Special characters are

Micheal Jackson Bad, or bad as in crappy or not up to par?  

[Crustasian]

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Drachyench_The_Eternal

Pontius Pirate

Well, like Reddemon said, a savvy player should be able to turn special character's weaknesses against them. Honestly, they were implemented in order to be used.

Most characters have one of three weaknesses: 1) No combat capabilities. Toss your Lord (Or heck, even hero) into combat with them, and watch them die.

2) No Magic defenses. Use some spell that causes shitloads of hits, regardless of targeting rules, and watch the character die easily.

3) Lack of/Reliant On ward save. If any enemy has something to nullify that, they go poof.

This is all, of course, forgetting the biggest bane of Characters: Cannons.

And then, we have the characters that are just beastly. One's who cover every angle of the game. The perfect example being Archaon. A solid stat-line, backed by having the power of all the marks of Chaos, and significant magic items makes him a machine.

Of course, with a whopping cost, it's rare you'll see him played in a game not consisting of more than 2,500 points.

also there is teclis, even tho he has no save until he is on one wound, he has awesome magic attack and defence as well as being a pretty decent combat hero when u drink that potion he has, coz of his sword that ignores armour saves and always wounds on a 2+!!  

[Drachyench]

Crustasian

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Drachyench_The_Eternal

Pontius Pirate

Well, like Reddemon said, a savvy player should be able to turn special character's weaknesses against them. Honestly, they were implemented in order to be used.

Most characters have one of three weaknesses: 1) No combat capabilities. Toss your Lord (Or heck, even hero) into combat with them, and watch them die.

2) No Magic defenses. Use some spell that causes shitloads of hits, regardless of targeting rules, and watch the character die easily.

3) Lack of/Reliant On ward save. If any enemy has something to nullify that, they go poof.

This is all, of course, forgetting the biggest bane of Characters: Cannons.

And then, we have the characters that are just beastly. One's who cover every angle of the game. The perfect example being Archaon. A solid stat-line, backed by having the power of all the marks of Chaos, and significant magic items makes him a machine.

Of course, with a whopping cost, it's rare you'll see him played in a game not consisting of more than 2,500 points.

also there is teclis, even tho he has no save until he is on one wound, he has awesome magic attack and defence as well as being a pretty decent combat hero when u drink that potion he has, coz of his sword that ignores armour saves and always wounds on a 2+!!

So, it's a Runefang/Ghal Maraz lite?

Elf characters are nasty as they don't suck in anything. Sure, they aren't THE master in any one roll, but they do things like mix a Second Gen Slaan Mage-Priest with a Vampire Count Statline and uber-magic weapons.

Simply put: Hard as nails. Use specialist weapons against them. Pray you fight on your own terms, not theirs.  

[Reddemon]

EliotJamesRookwood

Reddemon

Now now, lets start talking about how bad the high Elf Special characters are

Micheal Jackson Bad, or bad as in crappy or not up to par?

No clue XD  

[The_Jaybird]

Reddemon

EliotJamesRookwood

Reddemon

Now now, lets start talking about how bad the high Elf Special characters are

Micheal Jackson Bad, or bad as in crappy or not up to par?

No clue XD

Oi, I resent that, Skippy. If I remember, your Fey Enchantress didn't do so well when she was running away with her unicorn's tail tucked between its legs.  

[bouchy73]

I've pretty much just started play High elves and notice how awsome the basic cav is. but I was wondering where i should go from what I've got.

12 silver helms
12 lothren seaguard
2 bolt throwers
1 highelf mage
1 highelf commander
24 archers
12 spearmen
6 shadow warriors
5 sword masters of hothe
5 dragon princes

if your wondering why I've got such a weird array of moddles I bought most of it second hand still on it's sprues.  

[Drachyench]

Make all Cavalry Units 10 or 12 big (Depending on how much money you can spare).

Increase all regimental Infantry units to 15-25 models big. 20 Is usually the best, however.

Keep skirmishers either small (Minimal size), or around 10 big. Small is to prevent them being a big point risk and useful for baiting, 10 ones are for the ability to use your M5 and dance around the enemy firing 10 arrows on a 4+ a turn.  

[Crustasian]

thats a good basic starting point 4 and army. u probly want 2 increase that spearmen and lothern to 20 men units, that, the silver helms and the archers will be the probly enough as a basis. then u really need 2 work on speciallist units, personally i think a unit of 5 dragon princes is enough but u could get more. and the swordmasters need to be increased 2 a squad of 20ish. then u mite wanna get some extras with woteva u have left (like some phoenix guard or a chariot) smile  

[Reddemon]

The_Jaybird

Reddemon

EliotJamesRookwood

Reddemon

Now now, lets start talking about how bad the high Elf Special characters are

Micheal Jackson Bad, or bad as in crappy or not up to par?

No clue XD

Oi, I resent that, Skippy. If I remember, your Fey Enchantress didn't do so well when she was running away with her unicorn's tail tucked between its legs.

Jay, must I remind you that Techlis almost got groped by the powers of Chaos?  

[taylin fox]

so much more can be done with out special characters. expesh at the 2k and lower points. special characters shouldn't even be concidered till 2150 or above.  

[Reddemon]

taylin fox

so much more can be done with out special characters. expesh at the 2k and lower points. special characters shouldn't even be concidered till 2150 or above.

True, but they we're in at the store we went to when it was open, so we got em.  

[Van Evok]

in case of uber-character, I send in Shadowblade ninja ... and as for the army, unit sizes with 20+ unit strength are best for melee-oriented units, my politically correct cousin smile