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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:36 pm
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Well, the Catholic church teaches homosexuality is wrong, and is a sin.
But, I'm not exactly Christian ( I think? I'm Luthren... which is different somehow? *has no idea* ), and I don't exactly believe that. Having sex for pleasure, I believe, is kind of a sin ( is a sin? ), but that goes for ANYone. I guess I see homosexuality as the sin we are born with ( There's a word for it.. I can't remember it's been so long. ). The type everyone has, not just an add on God decided to stick onto some people. This sin is washed away at baptism, which is what allows us into heaven. So I think, the sin of homosexuality is washed away when that person is baptized... but the homosexuality is still there... just no longer as a sin.
I'm explaining this horribly, aren't I? Yeah, I'm not making much sense to myself either.
But, I've always questioned why God would make homosexuality a sin, if it can't be rid of... I suppose as long as you don't indulge on it, it's not a sin... but that doesn't seem right to me. So they can't love anyone but God or it might be a sin? God teaches us to love, so why is it a sin for homosexuals? It doesn't add up.
Then, I read a bit in a book, which said that what is said in the bible about Homosexuality may actually be translated wrong by many, and isn't actually saying it's a sin. ( I would love to tell you the book, but I can't remember what it's called ) So I was confused, and just believe homosexuality isn't a sin... the sex is the sin. Which could also apply to anybody else, depending on the situation, of course.
Now, looking at BL, could be a different matter... but as far as I know... it couldn't be a heafty sin, if it is one...
Erm... am I even on topic anymore? *has no idea what she was trying to get at with this*
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:54 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:14 pm
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I don't believe reading BL is a sin unless you're reading it for the porn, which you seem to have stated that you don't.
Anyways my veiws on homosexuality are to be debated about, but in what I have come to believe, being a homosexual is not bad, it's the practicing of the lifestyle that is sinful.
((I have quite a lot to say on this subject, but I will not continue.))
Even, so it's actually a matter of, will reading it cause you to sin?
Choice, my dear.
Yesh, I'm a Christain, to be exact a Seventh-Day Adventist~
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:39 pm
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Kashira Ka04 I don't believe reading BL is a sin unless you're reading it for the porn, which you seem to have stated that you don't.
Anyways my veiws on homosexuality are to be debated about, but in what I have come to believe, being a homosexual is not bad, it's the practicing of the lifestyle that is sinful.
((I have quite a lot to say on this subject, but I will not continue.))
Even, so it's actually a matter of, will reading it cause you to sin?
Choice, my dear.
Yesh, I'm a Christain, to be exact a Seventh-Day Adventist~
So, you say being a homosexual isn't bad, but you accept what you are and find a homosexual partner that's sinful? You are a Christian, do you read BL?
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:05 pm
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Forlornhope13 Kashira Ka04 I don't believe reading BL is a sin unless you're reading it for the porn, which you seem to have stated that you don't.
Anyways my veiws on homosexuality are to be debated about, but in what I have come to believe, being a homosexual is not bad, it's the practicing of the lifestyle that is sinful.
((I have quite a lot to say on this subject, but I will not continue.))
Even, so it's actually a matter of, will reading it cause you to sin?
Choice, my dear.
Yesh, I'm a Christain, to be exact a Seventh-Day Adventist~ So, you say being a homosexual isn't bad, but you accept what you are and find a homosexual partner that's sinful? You are a Christian, do you read BL?
Let me clear this up a bit, I'm straight (a girl), and yes, believe having a homosexual relationships is sinful. I aslo read BL: Loveless, Legal Drug, Sengoku Nights, and Only the Ring Finger Knows. Notice it's all fluff~
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:37 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:19 pm
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:56 am
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Forlornhope13 Lol, I didn't know having sex for pleasure was kind of a sin, did you mean before or after marriage? Now that you mention it, I don't understand why homosexuality is a sin, if it can't be helped. So reading BL may be a sin, just no a big one. But are sins weighed equally? Both, before and after marrige. Or maybe just before... I'm not too sure. God told us to be fruitful and multiply... if you're just doing it for pleasure... it kind of goes against that, doesn't it? I donno. I believe in God and all that, but I'm not up-to-date with the bible or anything, so my memory is fuzzy. I was taught sins like we see in the Ten Commandments are most sinful, so I believe some could be considered worse than others. But that doesn't mean you can get away with doing lesser sins, or that you don't have to repent.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:32 pm
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Kashira Ka04 Forlornhope13 Kashira Ka04 I don't believe reading BL is a sin unless you're reading it for the porn, which you seem to have stated that you don't.
Anyways my veiws on homosexuality are to be debated about, but in what I have come to believe, being a homosexual is not bad, it's the practicing of the lifestyle that is sinful.
((I have quite a lot to say on this subject, but I will not continue.))
Even, so it's actually a matter of, will reading it cause you to sin?
Choice, my dear.
Yesh, I'm a Christain, to be exact a Seventh-Day Adventist~ So, you say being a homosexual isn't bad, but you accept what you are and find a homosexual partner that's sinful? You are a Christian, do you read BL?Let me clear this up a bit, I'm straight (a girl), and yes, believe having a homosexual relationships is sinful. I aslo read BL: Loveless, Legal Drug, Sengoku Nights, and Only the Ring Finger Knows. Notice it's all fluff~
But any yaoi or hardcore or anything not completely fluffy in the shonen-ai or boy/boy, you wouldn't read?
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:44 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:55 am
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Forlornhope13, your letters are killing my eyes!!!
About your question, I don't really know, but I have my own opinion. I'm catholic, and I think there's nothing wrong with reading BL. Do you think God will get mad at you just because you read something?? There are people killing each other out there!!! Look, if reading BL is a sin, it's also a sin to read a newspaper, or watch the news, or read any book in which someone commits a sin (a crime, or any other sin).
Once again, it's my opinion, I'm not a bible expert nor anything like that.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:16 am
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IceAngie About your question, I don't really know, but I have my own opinion. I'm catholic, and I think there's nothing wrong with reading BL. Do you think God will get mad at you just because you read something?? There are people killing each other out there!!! Look, if reading BL is a sin, it's also a sin to read a newspaper, or watch the news, or read any book in which someone commits a sin (a crime, or any other sin). There's probably a difference in why you'd read, say, a murder mystery and a BL. You most likely don't watch CSI out of some perverse pleasure for seeing dead people. But you read BL for sexual reasons, even if it's not out-and-out yaoi and you're not masturbating.. you're still willfully seeing something that is (we're assuming, to make the point) sinful, for your own pleasure.
It's not so much what you're reading as why you're reading it.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:52 am
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:05 am
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Skizzors IceAngie About your question, I don't really know, but I have my own opinion. I'm catholic, and I think there's nothing wrong with reading BL. Do you think God will get mad at you just because you read something?? There are people killing each other out there!!! Look, if reading BL is a sin, it's also a sin to read a newspaper, or watch the news, or read any book in which someone commits a sin (a crime, or any other sin). There's probably a difference in why you'd read, say, a murder mystery and a BL. You most likely don't watch CSI out of some perverse pleasure for seeing dead people. But you read BL for sexual reasons, even if it's not out-and-out yaoi and you're not masturbating.. you're still willfully seeing something that is (we're assuming, to make the point) sinful, for your own pleasure. It's not so much what you're reading as why you're reading it.
You are right about that, maybe my comparison was too extreme, but what I meant is that there are other terrible sins (if you want to call them that way), and I don't think God will pay so much attention at sex related things that don't harm anyone (I'm not talking about rape or that kind of things). I can be wrong, but it's just my opinion. Everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY, is a sinner, there's absolutely NO ONE that hasn't commited a sin. IMO the important thing is how bad the sin is, and how much harm does it make. Oh, and please forgive my awful english... It is hard to me to speak even in my own language.
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