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 Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:41 am
Am I a goth?
The answer is... prolly' not. I'm not a goth, I just play one on TV.
Of course other people will tell you I'm a goth.
You may even go as far to say that I'm a poser-goth. Or as I like have fondly called... a goth-tart. (I got this word from the special eddition halloween poptarts, with the bat shaped sprinkles)
But really, since I'm obviously not a goth, I just wanted to see if people can agree on one definition of goth.
What IS goth to you?
I have read the book What is Goth by Voltaire. I don't think I've ever had more fun reading a book in my life.
To those who have read it, what are your thoughts?
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:25 pm
Goth is a state of mind, an awareness and acceptance of the darker parts of yourself and your willingness to accept them.
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:34 pm
Silly.Doll Am I a goth? The answer is... prolly' not. I'm not a goth, I just play one on TV. Of course other people will tell you I'm a goth. You may even go as far to say that I'm a poser-goth. Or as I like have fondly called... a goth-tart. (I got this word from the special eddition halloween poptarts, with the bat shaped sprinkles) But really, since I'm obviously not a goth, I just wanted to see if people can agree on one definition of goth. What IS goth to you? I have read the book What is Goth by Voltaire. I don't think I've ever had more fun reading a book in my life. To those who have read it, what are your thoughts? Goth is just the darker parts of a person... Goth is being able to acept the dark parts of you with out question and doubt.
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:40 pm
According to Voltaire, Mick Mercer, and many others (including myself)...
A goth is an avid fan of goth-rock (and related genres) and a supporter and follower of the community borne from the music.
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:45 pm
Silly.Doll I just wanted to see if people can agree on one definition of goth. You are kidding right? o.O That's led to many an argument on here.. there seem to be 2-3 versions or variations on them: Fan of Goth-Rock 'Dark' personality or state-of-mind/love of 'dark' things Anyone that wears black and listens to music that isn't of the mainstream (usaully used by those not of 'alternative' subculture/less well informed members of the 'alternative' subcultre)
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:48 pm
Goth to me is basically someone who identifies with the subculture, whether it be interest in the music, the fashion, the mindset, or any other part of the culture.
(PS: Do you mean Voltaire as in the Enlightenment era philosophe Voltaire? Because I've been hearing a lot of people talking about different Voltaires and getting all excited only to be disappointed. The newer Voltaires aren't nearly as amazing as the original.)
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:48 pm
Isobel Bellamy Silly.Doll I just wanted to see if people can agree on one definition of goth. You are kidding right? o.O That's led to many an argument on here.. there seem to be 2-3 versions or variations on them: Fan of Goth-Rock 'Dark' personality or state-of-mind/love of 'dark' things Anyone that wears black and listens to music that isn't of the mainstream (usaully used by those not of 'alternative' subculture/less well informed members of the 'alternative' subcultre) There is the alternative 4th view... we are just damn sexy people and love to flaunt it. XD. Because whats more attractive then a girl suffocating herself in a corset? Or a guy in tight leather pants?
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:53 pm
Rellik San Isobel Bellamy Silly.Doll I just wanted to see if people can agree on one definition of goth. You are kidding right? o.O That's led to many an argument on here.. there seem to be 2-3 versions or variations on them: Fan of Goth-Rock 'Dark' personality or state-of-mind/love of 'dark' things Anyone that wears black and listens to music that isn't of the mainstream (usaully used by those not of 'alternative' subculture/less well informed members of the 'alternative' subcultre) There is the alternative 4th view... we are just damn sexy people and love to flaunt it. XD. Because whats more attractive then a girl suffocating herself in a corset? Or a guy in tight leather pants? *laughs* darn, can't believe I missed that one!
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:57 pm
Tyshia Goth to me is basically someone who identifies with the subculture, whether it be interest in the music, the fashion, the mindset, or any other part of the culture. (PS: Do you mean Voltaire as in the Enlightenment era philosophe Voltaire? Because I've been hearing a lot of people talking about different Voltaires and getting all excited only to be disappointed. The newer Voltaires aren't nearly as amazing as the original.)The Voltaire most commonly referenced to here in goth matters is the multi-talented Voltaire of "oh my Goth!" fame
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:59 pm
Isobel Bellamy Tyshia Goth to me is basically someone who identifies with the subculture, whether it be interest in the music, the fashion, the mindset, or any other part of the culture. (PS: Do you mean Voltaire as in the Enlightenment era philosophe Voltaire? Because I've been hearing a lot of people talking about different Voltaires and getting all excited only to be disappointed. The newer Voltaires aren't nearly as amazing as the original.)The Voltaire most commonly referenced to here in goth matters is the multi-talented Voltaire of "oh my Goth!" fame Rawr, disappointment. I have read up on some of that Voltaire's stuff, but I still much prefer the original. sad
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:02 pm
Tyshia Isobel Bellamy Tyshia Goth to me is basically someone who identifies with the subculture, whether it be interest in the music, the fashion, the mindset, or any other part of the culture. (PS: Do you mean Voltaire as in the Enlightenment era philosophe Voltaire? Because I've been hearing a lot of people talking about different Voltaires and getting all excited only to be disappointed. The newer Voltaires aren't nearly as amazing as the original.)The Voltaire most commonly referenced to here in goth matters is the multi-talented Voltaire of "oh my Goth!" fame Rawr, disappointment. I have read up on some of that Voltaire's stuff, but I still much prefer the original. sad Ah, sorry hun ^^; Hrm original Voltaire eh? When I have enough money to get a new book I'll look him up (slight problem in that I don't have enough to eat atm o.O), I'm currently reading Dante at the moment, deliciously pretentious and tutors think you're smart too ^^
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:18 pm
Isobel Bellamy Rellik San Isobel Bellamy Silly.Doll I just wanted to see if people can agree on one definition of goth. You are kidding right? o.O That's led to many an argument on here.. there seem to be 2-3 versions or variations on them: Fan of Goth-Rock 'Dark' personality or state-of-mind/love of 'dark' things Anyone that wears black and listens to music that isn't of the mainstream (usaully used by those not of 'alternative' subculture/less well informed members of the 'alternative' subcultre) There is the alternative 4th view... we are just damn sexy people and love to flaunt it. XD. Because whats more attractive then a girl suffocating herself in a corset? Or a guy in tight leather pants? *laughs* darn, can't believe I missed that one! Well lets be honest, dressing in a typically gothic way can't be comfy, so why else do it? You and me as metal heads (you said it somewhere before you are I think) have sense to wear clothes with plenty of breathing space.
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:24 pm
Rellik San Isobel Bellamy Silly.Doll I just wanted to see if people can agree on one definition of goth. You are kidding right? o.O That's led to many an argument on here.. there seem to be 2-3 versions or variations on them: Fan of Goth-Rock 'Dark' personality or state-of-mind/love of 'dark' things Anyone that wears black and listens to music that isn't of the mainstream (usaully used by those not of 'alternative' subculture/less well informed members of the 'alternative' subcultre) There is the alternative 4th view... we are just damn sexy people and love to flaunt it. XD. Because whats more attractive then a girl suffocating herself in a corset? Or a guy in tight leather pants? Could not have expressed myself better than that.^^
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:29 pm
Rellik San Isobel Bellamy Rellik San Isobel Bellamy Silly.Doll I just wanted to see if people can agree on one definition of goth. You are kidding right? o.O That's led to many an argument on here.. there seem to be 2-3 versions or variations on them: Fan of Goth-Rock 'Dark' personality or state-of-mind/love of 'dark' things Anyone that wears black and listens to music that isn't of the mainstream (usaully used by those not of 'alternative' subculture/less well informed members of the 'alternative' subcultre) There is the alternative 4th view... we are just damn sexy people and love to flaunt it. XD. Because whats more attractive then a girl suffocating herself in a corset? Or a guy in tight leather pants? *laughs* darn, can't believe I missed that one! Well lets be honest, dressing in a typically gothic way can't be comfy, so why else do it? You and me as metal heads (you said it somewhere before you are I think) have sense to wear clothes with plenty of breathing space. It's easier to get dressed in the dark in an outfit that isn't all complicated and lacy^^ And you're less likely to fall off New rocks than you are in three-inch spike heals. I'm a safety conscious alternative gal xd
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:33 pm
Isobel Bellamy Rellik San Isobel Bellamy Rellik San Isobel Bellamy Silly.Doll I just wanted to see if people can agree on one definition of goth. You are kidding right? o.O That's led to many an argument on here.. there seem to be 2-3 versions or variations on them: Fan of Goth-Rock 'Dark' personality or state-of-mind/love of 'dark' things Anyone that wears black and listens to music that isn't of the mainstream (usaully used by those not of 'alternative' subculture/less well informed members of the 'alternative' subcultre) There is the alternative 4th view... we are just damn sexy people and love to flaunt it. XD. Because whats more attractive then a girl suffocating herself in a corset? Or a guy in tight leather pants? *laughs* darn, can't believe I missed that one! Well lets be honest, dressing in a typically gothic way can't be comfy, so why else do it? You and me as metal heads (you said it somewhere before you are I think) have sense to wear clothes with plenty of breathing space. It's easier to get dressed in the dark in an outfit that isn't all complicated and lacy^^ And you're less likely to fall off New rocks than you are in three-inch spike heals. I'm a safety conscious alternative gal xd Don't wanna blow away in the wind.
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