The E m o Debate [Music.Or.Style.?]

[Teenage Mother]

Yeah so..
Im Wondering.
What do the so-called 'emo-kids' beleive emo is today?
Is Emo about the music still, Or have we all been media brainwashed into thinking it's just a style?

Just post and say what you think.
Don't be rude && Be literate.  

[Gambino Statue]

..she says like she's not a product of the brainwashing hysteria?

Not rude,
just a question.
n_n
 

[Space Ninja Neku]

O silly emo is music we only want them to think like that. Tha way people know who is dumb and who is not.  

[Xyloid]

Some of use who know what emo is use it in a condesending manner.


Like this example: Go cut yourself, emo kid.




Now, I can guarentee that you are at least two of the following:

14
Obsessed with My Chemical Romance and Panic! At the Disco
Wearing something 'obscure' and brightly colored.
 

[Teenage Mother]

Xyloid

Some of use who know what emo is use it in a condesending manner.


Like this example: Go cut yourself, emo kid.




Now, I can guarentee that you are at least two of the following:

14
Obsessed with My Chemical Romance and Panic! At the Disco
Wearing something 'obscure' and brightly colored.

Yep.
I am 14. Well done,you got one correct thing.
But no i am not wearing anything id call obscure.
Nor am i obsessed with either of those bands.
I like them but i'm not obsessed.

Although i don't see what age nor what im wearing have to do with what i asked.  

[xdownwithxtheshipx]

It was a style of music for over a decade before people started calling it a fashion style. It's always been music and always will be.  

[Demonic_Angel_Ruler]

it is all about the music well aleast it use to be. now people consider it style and personality.  

[darkeningxcore]

i dunno.

the more i hear about this debate the more i don't care. it's changed so much it's probably what you want it to be.  

[5-Star Emo]

emo is just a sub-genre of punk and like punk its about the music. people just get carried away with the style and lose track of whats important  

[Teenage Mother]

Too me,emo is a genre of music and nothing else.
It has slowly become a childish and shallow label for people who arent like everyone else.
It started out as emotive rock, a subgenre of music formed out of rock,softcore metal and punk.
But now its become something entirely different.
Since when does skinny jeans,dark hair,chucks and a band shirt equal to 'emo'?
Thats just a fascist stereotype.
Now everything seems to be classed as 'Emo'
clothes,hairstyles and colors,shoes,bi-sexuality and depresseion..all these things that have nothing to do with what emo is suposed to be.  

[ariboy cruz 24]

emo
its all about music
i think those who think its style or personality,they just wanna express themselves  

[xdownwithxtheshipx]

teenageZOMBIE--x

Too me,emo is a genre of music and nothing else.
It has slowly become a childish and shallow label for people who arent like everyone else.
It started out as emotive rock, a subgenre of music formed out of rock,softcore metal and punk.
But now its become something entirely different.
Since when does skinny jeans,dark hair,chucks and a band shirt equal to 'emo'?
Thats just a fascist stereotype.
Now everything seems to be classed as 'Emo'
clothes,hairstyles and colors,shoes,bi-sexuality and depresseion..all these things that have nothing to do with what emo is suposed to be.

What the ******** is Softcore Metal? neutral And just to correct everything you just said, Emo developed out of the DC Hardcore scene in the mid 80's. It has no connections to Rock, "Softcore" or any other kind of Metal or any other genre. ********, I wish people would stop trying to explain it when their idea of Emo is what they hear on Victory records.  

[Teenage Mother]

bassmule

teenageZOMBIE--x

Too me,emo is a genre of music and nothing else.
It has slowly become a childish and shallow label for people who arent like everyone else.
It started out as emotive rock, a subgenre of music formed out of rock,softcore metal and punk.
But now its become something entirely different.
Since when does skinny jeans,dark hair,chucks and a band shirt equal to 'emo'?
Thats just a fascist stereotype.
Now everything seems to be classed as 'Emo'
clothes,hairstyles and colors,shoes,bi-sexuality and depresseion..all these things that have nothing to do with what emo is suposed to be.

What the ******** is Softcore Metal? neutral And just to correct everything you just said, Emo developed out of the DC Hardcore scene in the mid 80's. It has no connections to Rock, "Softcore" or any other kind of Metal or any other genre. ********, I wish people would stop trying to explain it when their idea of Emo is what they hear on Victory records.

ok to define a few things.
softcore metal = nice way of saying half-assed-poser-metal.

and you can shove your victory records thing up your fat a** douchebag.

i know it came outta dc but thats not its only roots,listen to the music,its not all based on hardcore,it has heaps of other influences.  

[xdownwithxtheshipx]

teenageZOMBIE--x

bassmule

teenageZOMBIE--x

Too me,emo is a genre of music and nothing else.
It has slowly become a childish and shallow label for people who arent like everyone else.
It started out as emotive rock, a subgenre of music formed out of rock,softcore metal and punk.
But now its become something entirely different.
Since when does skinny jeans,dark hair,chucks and a band shirt equal to 'emo'?
Thats just a fascist stereotype.
Now everything seems to be classed as 'Emo'
clothes,hairstyles and colors,shoes,bi-sexuality and depresseion..all these things that have nothing to do with what emo is suposed to be.

What the ******** is Softcore Metal? neutral And just to correct everything you just said, Emo developed out of the DC Hardcore scene in the mid 80's. It has no connections to Rock, "Softcore" or any other kind of Metal or any other genre. ********, I wish people would stop trying to explain it when their idea of Emo is what they hear on Victory records.

ok to define a few things.
softcore metal = nice way of saying half-assed-poser-metal.

and you can shove your victory records thing up your fat a** douchebag.

i know it came outta dc but thats not its only roots,listen to the music,its not all based on hardcore,it has heaps of other influences.

Half assed poseur Metal is called Half Assed Poseur Metal, it's not called Softcore Metal, nothing is called softcore except for porn.

Lets recap Emo's conception:
1984: Husker Du release Zen Arcade and show its ok to play Hardcore and sing about introverted feelings.

1985: Rites of Spring release their self titled cementing the concept of introverted feelings in Hardcore songs.

Other records you should listen to so you have the basic understanding:
Portraits of Past - Discography
Hassan I Sabbah - Discography
Heroin - Discography
Saetia - A Retrospective
Navio Forge - As We Quietly Burn a Hole Into (more Post Hardcore than anything but still very deeply rooted)
Usurp Synapse - This Endless Breath, so you have an idea as to what Modern Emo is.

Skip ahead to the mid/late 90's with bands like Saetia, yes they don't sound like tradition Hardcore, thats because back in the early 90's Emo bands started experimenting with different styles of melodies and some Grind elements.

Now unless you can prove to me these other "influences" I'll know you're wrong and don't know what you're talking about.  

[Mr.Toxic]

hey who wants to be my freind