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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:20 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:10 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:21 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:01 pm
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:19 am
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:42 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:21 am
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:00 am
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:15 pm
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:26 am
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:15 am
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:18 am
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:21 am
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:46 pm
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It depends on the nature of the game. At issue isn't so much whether something is against the rules, but whether it is within the focus of the competition.
Because every thread is more fun with a reference to stupid John Candy movies.... In bobsledding, the focus of the competition isn't just a matter of who can get their sled and crew to the bottom of the run first; it's a matter of who can do it within set parameters, and the competition focuses on who can launch, steer, and balance their sled properly. Putting weights in the sled to make the sled go faster unbalances (har-har) the competition and makes it meaningless; why not add jet packs, if sled modification is allowed? Add weights, and the contest begins to be about something entirely different.
As another example, when wrestling you're competing at physical strength, wrestling technique, and tactical acumen. Any deliberate attempt to skew the contest in one direction or another outside those bounds would be cheating, because it's competing on a different level than the one agreed upon. Deliberately using magic to slow down or weaken an opponent would be cheating as surely as putting weights in your bobsled or slitting your opponent's knee tendons.
A contest has a particular paradigm in which it's meant to take place; operating outside that paradigm invalidates the contest. A person who does that no longer "wins" the contest, because they weren't playing within its confines to begin with.
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:16 pm
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I would be vastly offended and scandalized should anyone interfere on my behalf during a Duel. When I enter into personal combat, it is my skill with the blade (or stave) which is being tested, not my ability to make friends. I neither need nor desire the help of others in dealing with my personal affairs, when I want help, I'll ask for it, in a duel, that would be the height of shame. If others meddle, then they demonstrate to me their lack of respect for me and their lack of fatih in my abilities. I do realize this is equivalent to asking people who may want to help me to sit back and watch as I imperil myself. I never claimed to be a reasonable person. wink
Now, from a non-personal point of view... It depends entirely on the rules as they are laid for the competition. In games of chance, altering chance is fine, bumping the dice, not so much. In games of skill, (beyound the established rules) augmenting one's skill at playing the game is fine, but affecting fortune is not. In mixed games, anything that is allowed by the rules of the game, and the concensus of the gamers is fine. (on another personal aside, in RPGs I run, players are expressly forbiden from ensorcelling their dice, on pain of like recompensation against the whole of the gaming group.)
Mostly, it boils down to two parts in my mind... Do all parties have the potential to use the trick, and does it fit with the spirit of the contest in question. Life isn't always fair, but I try to keep any game I play on the up and up. 3nodding
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