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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:48 am
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I find gothic lolita fasion to be absolutely beautiful, it looks lovely to me, and I always saw it as gothic, just a different kind, you know like punk, romantic etc.
I decided my interest had peaked far enough that I'd go look at some of the lolita guilds, and I was kind of surprised at the apparent differences in the culture. They do regard themselves as expressing themselves in a way they like, that is different from society, and they have alot of the problems that the teenage goth faces. (Their parents, and pastor thinking of them as the devil for wearing black.) but the attitude seems so different.
Apparently Elegant Gothic Lolita ladies are to act in all ways proper, they are not to swear, they are to be submissive and passive. They are to be in all respects a lady or a child from the victorian era, seen and not heard.
Gothics, the ones I relate to, seem so much rougher then that. We seem cruder, I mean, not to the point of going out in the streets and yelling swearwords and so forth, but we seem to have more leeway and can be more casual.
Is Gothic Lolita a kind of goth? Or at least, would you define them as a kind?
Im not sure. ^^
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:05 am
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:29 am
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:35 am
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:36 am
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:24 am
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I know a bit about gohtic-lolita myself.
Is it goth? Well, sort of. It's not an individual culture, it's a popular trend. There is quite a bit of overlap with goth, as more and more goth women are following the trend.
It was started in Japan in 1996, by Mana, guitarist to the japanese band "Malice Mizer". Mana was famous for eerie cross-dressing, and he hit it biggest with "goshikurori" (gothic loli), a fashion line he designed himself.
Mana: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/38/Music_manasan.jpg
Here's his official fashion site: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/jpop/essentials/mmm/
He's also designed and worn "Gothic Aristocrat", a male equivalent to some point.
So, to my knowledge, it's not actually a culture or subculture, but a fashion style. To my knowledge, I repeat. I do know a few goth women who follow it.
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:48 am
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:48 am
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:00 am
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:59 am
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:33 am
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Nyed MortSanglant Correction:
Harajuku is a shopping district located near the Harajuku station in Tokyo, Japan. It's a popular spot for Gothic Lolita and Aristocrats to convene.
If all goes well I'll be going there next summer. stare theres a station in the shopping district, silly
I mentioned the station too, silly.
whee
I was mainly pointing out that it's referencing the place, not the people in it.
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:06 pm
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:10 pm
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:07 pm
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:08 pm
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