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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:00 pm
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Ok, so I was reading about the Dark and light Sabbats, and i know it doesn't make them evil or anything, because it has something to do with Involution, and Evolution, where evolution is light, and involution is dark, what I want to know is why from Samhain to Ostara is a Dark, or Samhain, because it's when the Oak King dies, so isn't that Evolution, which is light?
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:41 pm
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Aya Azura Ok, so I was reading about the Dark and light Sabbats, and i know it doesn't make them evil or anything, because it has something to do with Involution, and Evolution, where evolution is light, and involution is dark, what I want to know is why from Samhain to Ostara is a Dark, or Samhain, because it's when the Oak King dies, so isn't that Evolution, which is light? Urm... that's not how it works. Four of them, Bealtaine; Samhain; Lunasadh and Imbolg, are Celtic in source. They are lunar events.
The other four are the solstices and equinoxes. They are solar in nature.
As a result, one could call them dark and light, but it would be a misnomer. It implies a direct relationship where none exists.
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:00 pm
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:45 pm
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:57 pm
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:15 pm
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:53 am
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:04 pm
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:25 pm
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:37 pm
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Neko_Bast TeaDidikai Just because something is a wheel, doesn't mean it doesn't have a beginning and an end. And saying that people will do what they please with bastardized Norse and Celtic holidays doesn't mean it makes sense. I've always wondered Tea......why do you say they are bastardized? I've noticed you say that in multiple threads and was wondering why. Because they're taken, out of context, from two spiritual world views with extremely little in common. They are then mangled to fit into a world view that doesn't recognise the Celtic aspect of the Celtic holidays but takes a decontextualised polarised view, stripping away the concept of Good and Evil and replacing it with Fertility.
She's calling them bastardised because (and any Wiccan will admit to this) they're bastardised.
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:44 pm
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reagun ban Neko_Bast TeaDidikai Just because something is a wheel, doesn't mean it doesn't have a beginning and an end. And saying that people will do what they please with bastardized Norse and Celtic holidays doesn't mean it makes sense. I've always wondered Tea......why do you say they are bastardized? I've noticed you say that in multiple threads and was wondering why. Because they're taken, out of context, from two spiritual world views with extremely little in common. They are then mangled to fit into a world view that doesn't recognise the Celtic aspect of the Celtic holidays but takes a decontextualised polarised view, stripping away the concept of Good and Evil and replacing it with Fertility. She's calling them bastardised because (and any Wiccan will admit to this) they're bastardised.
Is there anywhere I can find out was they are like when they aren't "bastardized?"
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:05 pm
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:27 pm
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:26 am
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TeaDidikai reagun ban The AsatruaR most likely celebrate the Nordic ones Norse Style. Probably less sex violence and alcohol involved. *runduckhidefromdeo* Depends on the group. Speaking as someone who celebrates with Asatru- Nothing says lovin' like beating the ******** s**t out of your hubby with a hard piece of wood while drinking mead then having him ******** the beating s**t out of you with his own wood. Ummmm.... was that over the top?
Just a little dear. I'll be scowring my brain for weeks.
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:47 am
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