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What are your Pet Peeves in yaoi? Is it the way certain characters act? Is it certain fans? What are some of the things that really annoy you about yaoi/BL?

Personally, I am not a fan of stories in which one partner is reluctant and forced sex is had, often repeatedly, until the characters fall in love. It's like some twisted sexual version of Stockholm's syndrome that I just can't get into. A lot of manga and fanfics seem to work this way and it just annoys the heck out of me. The last time I checked, there's a word for forcing someone into sex with you and it isn't pretty, nor is it the basis of love or any other healthy relationship.

I also hate when certain people get a hold of a character and remove their spine, neuter them and turn them into a weeping pile of goo. The occasional weepy uke I can deal with. Having a strong male character reduced to a sad sobbing waste of space just pisses me off! Stop projecting yourself on characters! Rar!

stare Yeah, so there's two of my pet peeves, tell me about some of yours 3nodding

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Let's see...

Stories. Or rather, the lack of them. Empty shells of characters acting out in bleak, monotome enviroments where stereotypes are commonplace and any shred of creative writing apparently has been reduced to ashes and blown away by the wind. It shouldn't just be a straight line of uninteresting events (if even any events at all) that lead up to a poorly written love scene where the writer has used as few words as possible (it seems) to describe events and feelings. I want to be caught in a web of intrigues, well-written dialogue and interesting characters, not painfully move through a swampland of crap printed on paper.

I also hate those useless, weeping ukes that throughout the entire trainwreck of a story only have lines like "Please... No!" or similiar idiocies. To some extent, sure. But building a whole character on that basis is just annoying. It leaves him an empty shell and in the end it really bothers me. On a related note, how does it come that in most stories and animes out there the useless, weeping uke falls in love with the heartless rapist that just tormented him? After recieving sixteen megatons of a**l apocalypse from some one I didn't even like in the first place my last reaction would be to give that sadistic fiend my eternal and unreserved love. When'll these people learn the difference between rape and consensual sex between two lovers? Also, rape without any psychological trauma or other effects as an aftermath also annoys me quite a bit since it's completelly illogical and outright stupid. Why do we need a same/uke guideline to go by? Too stereotypical. Try and surprise us all instead rather than giving the entire story out before-hand.

Characters acting completelly OOC without any good stated reason also bothers me a lot. If it's a piece of fanfiction where the characters act nothing like they should then it's just annoying and silly. If the author of the work actually modifies the story in a manner that doesn't go too far from the original piece then I usually don't have a problem with it, but completelly illogical character modifications just... NO!

Confused gender roles can be annoying too now that I think of it. Guys acting like girls and vice versa (again, only applies if no logical reason for the circumstances is presented) can be annoying. Gender roles are still a reality and simply ditching them while at the same time trying to pretend that it actually is accurate and realistic is always a good way to kill your piece.

But let's assume that everything works allright until the characters fall in love and finally have sex with eachother. Problem is that it's painfully obvious in most cases that the writers haven't gotten any idea what they're doing and the whole thing becomes about as realistic as your average hentai piece and this really, really bothers me. I shant go into the details here, but I think you get my point.

Fans generally have a tendency to annoy me too. There's a lot of good people out there, but for every decent fan there are two bad ones that haven't gotten any idea what they're talking about, or at least I get this impression when I'm on Gaia and other places.

Seconded. Boys and girls of all lands should try and understand that things are a bit more complex than that.

There's probably more stuff, but none that comes to mind at the moment.

I agree. I don't mind the ukes to be somewhat femine, but when it is obivous that a girl should be the character it is useless.

What bothers me the most is the lack of a plot, and the rape thing does too. It makes the character helpless and a non participant in the relationship.
I want to see positve stories of malexmale love and femalexfemale love without the stupid girly drama.

I agree with you. 3nodding