Universal Eclectic Wicca?

[Neko_Bast]

I was wondering if anyone had heard of the Universal Eclectic Tradition of Wicca. I was pointed in its direction by another guild. I've read the whole site but I was thinking that it would be good to get some peoples opinions of it befor I thought of joining.

here is the website

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Universal Eclectic Wicca

 

[crystal_raye]

Yes, I've heard of it. Alot of people don't consider it Wicca, though, because it can get too far away from the original principles.  

[TeaDidikai]

It's not Wicca.

1) No mysteries.
2) "The Five points of Wiccan belief" aren't Wicca unto themselves, believing them does not make one Wiccan.
3) Pre-Modern "Wicca" is a pipe dream.
4) Their concept of a "Good Coven" is bullshit- and compeletly unfounded within the basis of Wicca.


No. It's not even remotely Wicca.  

[Doctrix]

You should look into the Unitarian Universalist church. There are Pagan branches (CUUPS) that are very similar and do not use such a deceptive name. I also do not personally believe that "Universal Eclectic Wicca" is Wiccan.  

[TeaDidikai]

[Kudzu]

You should look into the Unitarian Universalist church. There are Pagan branches (CUUPS) that are very similar and do not use such a deceptive name. I also do not personally believe that "Universal Eclectic Wicca" is Wiccan.

Actually, many CUUPs leaders claim the title of Wicca without initiation. Especially those in my area (Olympia, Washington).  

[Kal Eldritch]

If I could, I'd run that thing right off the internet...along with wicca.com...and silver ravendogs site.

Just on good will and the knowledge that you'll be bettering yourself without their misguidance, don't join.  

[CuAnnan]

There're worse out there.
There's http://www.freewebs.com/keltswick/
Run by a 16 year old  

[TeaDidikai]

reagun ban

There're worse out there.
There's http://www.freewebs.com/keltswick/
Run by a 16 year old

"we will no longer be a coven but a teenage study group who will study and practice Celtic/Irish Reconstructionism, meetings will be once a month, we will only be accepting those of 15-18 years of age and a new management will be put into place. Check back with us for more updates."

It's not that bad.  

[Starlock]

It's tough to judge the organization by their site... it would be beneficial to talk to the heads of the organization to get a better impression of what they do and such. I'm always a bit weary of online organizations in general, but this one seems a bit better than some others I've encountered. If you've got the time and the wish, go ahead and try it out.  

[Neko_Bast]

Starlock

It's tough to judge the organization by their site... it would be beneficial to talk to the heads of the organization to get a better impression of what they do and such. I'm always a bit weary of online organizations in general, but this one seems a bit better than some others I've encountered. If you've got the time and the wish, go ahead and try it out.

Which is why I wanted peoples opinions. It was started in 1998 by a Gardnerian and a eclectic witch (I'm trying to remember because the site is down). They only take 10 new members a month and after looking at the enterence essay.......I can understand why, its kinda hard. Even if I join and it turns out to be a lode of crap I can always quite.  

[TeaDidikai]

Neko_Bast

Starlock

It's tough to judge the organization by their site... it would be beneficial to talk to the heads of the organization to get a better impression of what they do and such. I'm always a bit weary of online organizations in general, but this one seems a bit better than some others I've encountered. If you've got the time and the wish, go ahead and try it out.

Which is why I wanted peoples opinions. It was started in 1998 by a Gardnerian and a eclectic witch (I'm trying to remember because the site is down). They only take 10 new members a month and after looking at the enterence essay.......I can understand why, its kinda hard. Even if I join and it turns out to be a lode of crap I can always quite.

And they cite this lineage where?  

[Doctrix]

TeaDidikai

Neko_Bast

It was started in 1998 by a Gardnerian and a eclectic witch

And they cite this lineage where?

Regardless of the validity of that person's lineage and whether or not they were currently practicing, just because a founder might be Gard does not mean that they pass on Gardnerian lore, Mysteries and practice (as they were taught to them) to every social group they come across. Wiccan's do not crap Wicca everywhere they go. They pass it on with Wiccan Initiations, not by rubbing elbows with folks at Pagan festivals or open circles. (See my thread in the "PathWays" subfolder for historical information about on how many non-Wiccan groups were started by Wiccans in the past fifty years.) I would not be shocked if this "Universal Eclectic Wicca" thing is just another person's Outer Court run amok.  

[TeaDidikai]

[Kudzu]

TeaDidikai

Neko_Bast

It was started in 1998 by a Gardnerian and a eclectic witch

And they cite this lineage where?

Regardless of the validity of that person's lineage and whether or not they were currently practicing, just because a founder might be Gard does not mean that they pass on Gardnerian lore, Mysteries and practice (as they were taught to them) to every social group they come across. Wiccan's do not crap Wicca everywhere they go. They pass it on with Wiccan Initiations, not by rubbing elbows with folks at Pagan festivals or open circles. (See my thread in the "PathWays" subfolder for historical information about on how many non-Wiccan groups were started by Wiccans in the past fifty years.) I would not be shocked if this "Universal Eclectic Wicca" thing is just another person's Outer Court run amok.

Which is why I am looking for something akin to a legit lineage.  

[Neko_Bast]

TeaDidikai

Neko_Bast

Starlock

It's tough to judge the organization by their site... it would be beneficial to talk to the heads of the organization to get a better impression of what they do and such. I'm always a bit weary of online organizations in general, but this one seems a bit better than some others I've encountered. If you've got the time and the wish, go ahead and try it out.

Which is why I wanted peoples opinions. It was started in 1998 by a Gardnerian and a eclectic witch (I'm trying to remember because the site is down). They only take 10 new members a month and after looking at the enterence essay.......I can understand why, its kinda hard. Even if I join and it turns out to be a lode of crap I can always quite.

And they cite this lineage where?

evil I can't find it now......I'm going to send them an email for thier FAQ section.  

[TeaDidikai]

Neko_Bast

TeaDidikai

And they cite this lineage where?

evil I can't find it now......I'm going to send them an email for thier FAQ section.

Uh huh.