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 Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:07 pm
3 Quickdraw Synchron
3 Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter
3 Volcanic Shell
2 Debris Dragon
2 Lonefire Blossom
2 Dandylion
2 Effect Veiler
1 Tytannial, Princess of Camellias
1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
1 Caius the Shadow Monarch
1 Card Trooper
1 Level Eater
1 Sangan
1 Spore
3 Pot of Avarice
2 Book of Moon
1 Charge of the Light Brigade
1 Pot of Duality
1 Monster Reborn
1 Foolish Burial
1 Cold Wave
1 Dark Hole
3 Royal Decree
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Solemn Judgment
2 Scrap Dragon
2 Black Rose Dragon
1 Stardust Dragon
1 Colossal Fighter
1 Junk Destroyer
1 Nitro Warrior
1 Turbo Warrior
1 Drill Warrior
1 Goyo Guardian
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Boundary
1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Armory Arm
1 Mist Wurm
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:49 pm
I don't get it.
Why use volcanic shell at all if you don't abuse it?
Why the ******** do people add in Pot of Duality. 99.9 times out of 100 they don't have it.
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:52 pm
Fresh Porn Why use volcanic shell at all if you don't abuse it? I don't understand how you don't see the usefulness of Volcanic Shell with Quickdraw Synchron. Discard/mill, add another, discard, add another, Sync? It's very good. 3nodding Fresh Porn Why the ******** do people add in Pot of Duality. 99.9 times out of 100 they don't have it. Because like Volcanic Shell, it's very good. Sure, not going to use it ALL the time, but being able to pry into the next three cards is a great advantage and good setup for setting a Ryko or Dandylion.
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:26 pm
Mustard Like Soup Fresh Porn Why use volcanic shell at all if you don't abuse it? I don't understand how you don't see the usefulness of Volcanic Shell with Quickdraw Synchron. Discard/mill, add another, discard, add another, Sync? It's very good. 3nodding Fresh Porn Why the ******** do people add in Pot of Duality. 99.9 times out of 100 they don't have it. Because like Volcanic Shell, it's very good. Sure, not going to use it ALL the time, but being able to pry into the next three cards is a great advantage and good setup for setting a Ryko or Dandylion. As for the volcanic shell, it can only get you what, lvl6 at best? As well as it being a once per turn effect so it is kinda slow. Pot of Duality. No point in net deck posting the card really since it is so ******** hard to get. So drop around 120$ U.S. for it? Nah if anything Gold Sarc is just as good and easier to guarantee game. Untill they reprint Pot of Duality, I wouldn't use even think of plugging it into deck plans. I mean seriously. Pot of duality is the most short printed short print card it's not even funny
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:19 am
I don't see the problem you have with a list projected to be at its optimal best. confused
Volcanic Shell can manipulate a multiple amount of levels, with multiple Tuners. It's not always going to be the Shell+Quickdraw = Synchro. I can always include a token, or two to make Junk Destroyer, and eliminate three. OR, I can revive it with Debris Dragon when I already have a monster on the field, Sync, and use Volcanic Shell's effect again. However, with just Quickdraw, I can set up the Drill Warrior loop with Volcanic Shell. Discard for Quickdraw, activate the effect and add another, summon and tune for Drill Warrior, activate the effect of the second for another and discard to remove Drill Warrior from play.
In addition, discarding Volcanic Shell makes it highly consistent for playing Pot of Avarice, thus allowing me to throw them into the Graveyard and use the effects again.
Volcanic Shell will be even better for the deck once we receive Gungnir, Dragon of the Ice Boundary, when I will include 1-2 Snowman Eater for the instant Synchro and keep decent discard power.
As for Pot of Duality, you don't seem to understand the idea behind optimal deck construction. First off, you don't know if I have the card, if I don't, if I can or cannot obtain one. Regardless of the cost, the idea behind deck construction and posting is to obtain the information for what will be the best form of the deck.
In comparison to Gold Sarcophagus, it's far more supreme, although they have their differences and uses. Pot of Duality is far more secure from start to finish for the game, and allowing yourself to manipulate what will be next to come from your deck the turn you play is an amazing thing.
To be perfectly honest, I don't need you posting in my thread over a disagreement due to a card being too rare and too expensive for you. It's like a child whining when they see everyone is enjoying themselves on their way off to the movies, but is too young so they stay home watching Cartoon Network.
I'm not you. Now, if you have nothing to say towards the deck and its PERFORMANCE, please leave.
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:28 am
No, let him keep posting, it's funny.
Gold Sarc is slow and lets your opponent set up for multiple turns, Duality is not slow and let's your opponent react only instantly.
;D
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Gravitational Molestation
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:13 am
In reply to all this about Pot of Duality:
First off, there's no reason why you cannot put up a "Projected" deck list if you do not have the card, so it's rarity is of no importance. Most of the duelists in this guild will only ever duel each other on YVD anyway so it doesn't matter if they have it or not because they'll put it in anyway.
As for its effectiveness, I do have to agree with Fresh Porn. It allows you to search ANY card from the deck instead of being confined to the top 3 cards. Even though it is removed from play for 2 turns, you still get it in a lot faster time than if you would try and draw it after using PoD. All-in-all, it is much more reliable than PoD.
-1PoD
+1Gold Sarc
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:57 am
Aka_Saiyaku As for its effectiveness, I do have to agree with Fresh Porn. It allows you to search ANY card from the deck instead of being confined to the top 3 cards. Even though it is removed from play for 2 turns, you still get it in a lot faster time than if you would try and draw it after using PoD. All-in-all, it is much more reliable than PoD. -1PoD +1Gold Sarc Gold Sarcophagus is not effective in a deck designed to do all of the recovering from the Graveyard. It is not effective in a deck that is known to be a bit more slow-paced compared to other competitors(i.e., Blackwings and Lightsworn, which are both excellent candidates for this format again, thanks to Pot of Duality). I don't need a specific search, and I don't need it to take me two turns to retrieve the card. I have multitudes of ways to set combos in the deck, none that need a specific card all the time. That is the way Quickdraw functions, and pushing a card-vs-card statement is void when the deck doesn't function according to the card of your suggestion. Pot of Duality stays, because it IS superior in this deck to Gold Sarcophagus. razz
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:12 pm
Mustard Like Soup Aka_Saiyaku As for its effectiveness, I do have to agree with Fresh Porn. It allows you to search ANY card from the deck instead of being confined to the top 3 cards. Even though it is removed from play for 2 turns, you still get it in a lot faster time than if you would try and draw it after using PoD. All-in-all, it is much more reliable than PoD. -1PoD +1Gold Sarc Gold Sarcophagus is not effective in a deck designed to do all of the recovering from the Graveyard. It is not effective in a deck that is known to be a bit more slow-paced compared to other competitors(i.e., Blackwings and Lightsworn, which are both excellent candidates for this format again, thanks to Pot of Duality). I don't need a specific search, and I don't need it to take me two turns to retrieve the card. I have multitudes of ways to set combos in the deck, none that need a specific card all the time. That is the way Quickdraw functions, and pushing a card-vs-card statement is void when the deck doesn't function according to the card of your suggestion. Pot of Duality stays, because it IS superior in this deck to Gold Sarcophagus. razz I'd lol if you played your 1 PoD and hit some stacked crap and no matter how you organized it , it's still be stacked crap that doesn't help,where as when you can Gold sarc and get a shuffle biggrin
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:20 pm
I laugh now at how bad you are. First saying you get to shuffle is a plus to Sarc is moot. You shuffle with Duality too.
Second, in a format where the field changes rapidly, the here and now >s the future in priority level. Pot of Duality will consistently help you more than Gold Sarc.
Again, Gold Sarcs slow speed is what kills it. You give your opponent two turns to prepare for what's coming. That is plenty of time for them to reorganize their strategy and prepare tactics for the turn that Sarc retrieves. Hell, it even gives them extra time to draw into the Mind Crush they got with Duality
faster than your Sarc. That Mind Crush then just gave away your whole hand. Good job, you helped your opponent by playing Sarc.
Sarc is too slow, end of story.
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Gravitational Molestation
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:26 pm
Fresh Porn I'd lol if you played your 1 PoD and hit some stacked crap and no matter how you organized it , it's still be stacked crap that doesn't help,where as when you can Gold sarc and get a shuffle biggrin You don't place the cards you don't add to your hand in an order on top of the deck, less it be specified. Instead, the wording has the two remaining cards "returned to the deck", which like every other effect that contains the same wording, with no specification to top or bottom, demands a shuffle. Again, will you stop posting in my thread if only to hate a card because it's just a bit out of budget for you? confused
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:32 pm
I honestly don't see what the big deal is. Pot of Duality is good, sure, but I think it's a little over hyped. It's really just never a dead draw and you break even. unlike normal draw power, you get to search the top 3 cards of your deck for something you want instead. good, but once again over hyped.
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:39 pm
Overpriced, yes. Overhyped, no.
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:48 pm
So a free draw card where you choose your draw is overhyped? No good sir, no. There is no other draw card currently in legal play that is as good as this thing.
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Gravitational Molestation
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:44 pm
Mustard Like Soup Aka_Saiyaku As for its effectiveness, I do have to agree with Fresh Porn. It allows you to search ANY card from the deck instead of being confined to the top 3 cards. Even though it is removed from play for 2 turns, you still get it in a lot faster time than if you would try and draw it after using PoD. All-in-all, it is much more reliable than PoD. -1PoD +1Gold Sarc Gold Sarcophagus is not effective in a deck designed to do all of the recovering from the Graveyard. It is not effective in a deck that is known to be a bit more slow-paced compared to other competitors(i.e., Blackwings and Lightsworn, which are both excellent candidates for this format again, thanks to Pot of Duality). I don't need a specific search, and I don't need it to take me two turns to retrieve the card. I have multitudes of ways to set combos in the deck, none that need a specific card all the time. That is the way Quickdraw functions, and pushing a card-vs-card statement is void when the deck doesn't function according to the card of your suggestion. Pot of Duality stays, because it IS superior in this deck to Gold Sarcophagus. razz The question here then is: Are you willing to give up your special summons? Your deck revolves around synchro which is a special summon. If you can't special summon because you used PoD, then you shut your own strategy down for a turn
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